What the hell happened to JD Vance?

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Anonymous wrote:I guarantee JD will send his kids to Seven Hills and then Yale as legacies.

Grad and law school aren’t considered legacy.

He managed to win without showing his brown skin wife and children! I really didn’t know he was married until recently. Amazing!

I know. I thought it was funny/sad how every article about him mentioned his Hillbilly Elegy background with little coverage of his Indian-American wife who he met at Yale. How must it feel to be Usha Vance and know your husband’s base disapproves of your ancestry.

Usha Chilukuri (now Usha Vance) clerked for appeals court judge, Brett M. Kavanaugh (another data point in Amy Chua’s observation that Kavanaugh liked clerks who looked a certain feminine, long hair, pretty way. She could be Trumpier than her husband.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I guarantee JD will send his kids to Seven Hills and then Yale as legacies.

Grad and law school aren’t considered legacy.

He managed to win without showing his brown skin wife and children! I really didn’t know he was married until recently. Amazing!

I know. I thought it was funny/sad how every article about him mentioned his Hillbilly Elegy background with little coverage of his Indian-American wife who he met at Yale. How must it feel to be Usha Vance and know your husband’s base disapproves of your ancestry.

Usha Chilukuri (now Usha Vance) clerked for appeals court judge, Brett M. Kavanaugh (another data point in Amy Chua’s observation that Kavanaugh liked clerks who looked a certain feminine, long hair, pretty way. She could be Trumpier than her husband.

Sounds like Niki Haley 2.0.

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Just incredible

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Trump's got something on him.

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Trump's got something on him.

Or Vance just sold his soul to get Trump’s endorsement.

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Trump's got something on him.

Or Vance just sold his soul to get Trump’s endorsement.

Yeah, don't get where this idea of Trump skillfully gathering kompromat on fellow Republicans came from. The much more likely explanation is that the GOP is full of craven bandwagoners who have few principled convictions and just float from issue to issue like plastic bags in a swirling wind.

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Peter Thiel happened, add Trump = Devil’s brew

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Trump's got something on him.

Or Vance just sold his soul to get Trump’s endorsement.

Yeah, don't get where this idea of Trump skillfully gathering kompromat on fellow Republicans came from. The much more likely explanation is that the GOP is full of craven bandwagoners who have few principled convictions and just float from issue to issue like plastic bags in a swirling wind.

From the fact that he has bugged phones in some of the Trump Hotels (I’m not searching for proof, sorry. It was revealed sometime in the horror years of 2016-2020). From the apparent 180 done by several, but most notably by Lindsay Graham (about whom rumors already existed in DC, I guess? I never was part of that scene so I wouldn’t know). From the fact that he’s a mobster and that’s what they do.

That the GOP is full of craven bandwagoners is also a true statement, but I think both things are true. Also I think a lot of GOP are sexually depraved and are basically criminals and they’re not smart though they always think they’re the smartest ones out there. They’re like the best targets for blackmail.

[Anonymous]

Can't wait for Vance to win and then he and DeSantis run together on a 2024 ticket as "outsiders". Yep, a filthy rich oligarch puppet from Yale Law School (don't forget his box-checking desk-duty military "service") and double Ivy Yale and Harvard Law School ... just two wholesome swing state "outsiders" . DeSantis hates elitists so much he spent 7 years on Ivy League campuses. Vance loves lower class white people so much he got filthy rich off a memoir framing them as dumb lazy hopeless white trash and moved to San Francisco to be a vulture capitalist.

Republicans are such dipsh*ts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Peter Thiel happened, add Trump = Devil’s brew

Vance was groomed from high school to become a US Senator if not POTUS. He is a synthetic flim-flam man.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can't wait for Vance to win and then he and DeSantis run together on a 2024 ticket as "outsiders". Yep, a filthy rich oligarch puppet from Yale Law School (don't forget his box-checking desk-duty military "service") and double Ivy Yale and Harvard Law School ... just two wholesome swing state "outsiders" . DeSantis hates elitists so much he spent 7 years on Ivy League campuses. Vance loves lower class white people so much he got filthy rich off a memoir framing them as dumb lazy hopeless white trash and moved to San Francisco to be a vulture capitalist.

Republicans are such dipsh*ts.

So donate heavily to Tim Ryan and maybe you don’t have to see Vance do anything but be just another doughy White talking head on Fox.

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Anonymous wrote:He found a grift by pandering to the rubes.

+1
Grifters grift.

I don't think this is just a grift. After the popularity of his book, he was given a number of platforms including tv appearances, speaking engagements and venture capital etc. After his initial surge in popularity, he tried to be a thoughtful, reasonable, nuanced voice speaking to what he saw as some of the structural problems in this country. He just realized that this was not viable for him in a post-Trump era and pivoted era.

Heard much from Ramesh Ponnuru lately? Yuval Levin? Reihan Salam? Erick Erickson? These guys were, at one point, supposed to be conversation-shapers at the vanguard of new conservatism and J.D. was dabbling in that conversation and ideological hand wringing. Trump has sucked all of the energy out of the room and now political branding is defined by reference to Trump, until he is off the scene for good.

Unlike someone like Trump, JD has been thinking about running for public office for quite a while and curating his steps with that in mind. He fashions himself a serious person and a serious thinker. But you have to survive in this game. He made his choice, but I don't think it was all a grift, so much as it was an attempt to keep his fledgling political career from running into immediate headwinds.

Hon. This is the very definition of a grift. Yes, he's a grifter. As someone who grew up LMC in the Midwest, it was obvious to me the minute I read his ridiculous and boring book that he was a shady grifter through-and-through. I never understood why so many Coasters thought it was something profound and interesting, but I guess that's because I grew up around his kind and he's more of an interesting anthropological specimen to you all. But sadly no, he's just a dime a dozen, one more mediocre white man who thinks he deserves to be God's gift.

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Anonymous wrote:He's a decent dude, and his wife is great. But he's quite ambitious and made the political calculus a while ago that the National Review brand of conservatism was not a viable path for his political fortunes. He can be thoughtful and nuanced (and some of his writings reflect this, even if you do not agree with him), but nobody is buying that these days, especially with the specter of Trumpism looming. He's had to walk back a number of his anti-Trump opinions in order to try to carve out a niche. This is the calculus that has been made, but it does not appear to be working.

Look at Asha Rangappa, who was at YLS at the same time as JD and is now a twitter warrior. These things happen when visibility, attention, ambition, scrutiny and brand-building enter the mix.

As evidenced by Ted Cruz at the SCOTUS confirmation hearings recently, you would be surprised (or perhaps not) by the number of esteemed, venerable people who are completely obsessed with their twitter mentions and the concomitant attention high. Sign of the times.

+1 to all of this.

I have to say that I do really wonder about his wife and how she's dealing with this. It would be hard for impossible for me to deal with this. They seemingly moved to Ohio to be close to his roots and to work to "make things better" with your spouse who was moderate right at best. Now the dude is more or less on the Trump. I don't think I could deal.

I also have to wonder what is biracial kids must think, although they are very young so they may not be aware. He gives off very “alpha male” vibes and I am kind of concerned for his wife given his supposed views on working mothers, and that weird statement he made about how your vote should be multiplied by the number of children you have.

Half white half Indian people who are umc are functionally white. They retain probably .01% of Indian attributes.

That's a pretty sweeping generalization.

LOL! I’m one of the bazillion Indian women married to a white man. This is typical of what you would expect from a progressive liberal.

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Peter Thiel bumped over 14 million dollars into this race for Vance.

Quite a tell, for the working class voters. Rubes get swindled every time, and this is yet another.

Sad for Ohio and sad for the US.

[Anonymous]

Speaking of OHIO...They seem to have a serious meth problem.