Large Recall of Children's OTC Meds, including Motrin, Tylenol, Benedryl, Zyrtec.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
My children's zyrtek came from the pharmacy located at my pediatrician's office - Capital Medical Group. It has a different lot number than the one recalled. I just bought it last week. Good luck.

THEY ARE NOT LOT NUMBERS, THEY ARE THE NDC NUMBERS. ALL PRODUCTS HAVE BEEN RECALLED. CAN YOU READ?????


It is the NDC number, thanks for clarification. You're right and it is not recalled. The Zyrtek by Capital Medical Group is fine.

Are you sure it is zyrtec? All Zyrtec for children has been recalled. Are they making their own Zyrtec or something?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
My children's zyrtek came from the pharmacy located at my pediatrician's office - Capital Medical Group. It has a different lot number than the one recalled. I just bought it last week. Good luck.

THEY ARE NOT LOT NUMBERS, THEY ARE THE NDC NUMBERS. ALL PRODUCTS HAVE BEEN RECALLED. CAN YOU READ?????


It is the NDC number, thanks for clarification. You're right and it is not recalled. The Zyrtek by Capital Medical Group is fine.

Are you sure it is zyrtec? All Zyrtec for children has been recalled. Are they making their own Zyrtec or something?

Not all Zyrtec. I have two bottles here at home, and neither had the NDC numbers listed in the recall. ?

[Anonymous]

I'm one of the PPs who feels that sometimes in this country we're too quick to turn to medications. I don't think my post was snarky at all. Just making a point that you really need to think twice before you turn to the easy answer of Motrin/Tylenol for everything.

Apparently many of you were offended by that suggestion.

Okay, that's fine. Continue on. If you have so much trust in these pharmaceutical corporations, then by all means, continue overusing antibiotics, continue giving Motrin after shots (which has been shown to be a bad idea).

People, just remember that this is BIG BUSINESS. These companies are making boatloads of money convincing parents that "modern medicine" will save their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP here -- one of the ones complaining about the FDA and lack of oversight.

What does your post really have to do with the recall? How do you know every mom on here is "drugging" their kids for "minor" issues? And who are you to say what's minor and what's not?

I am as holistic as they come -- we NEVER drug our kiddo for minor reasons and without trying everything else first.

and don't often administer tylenol but we have, twice. The first time was when our baby had a very high fever and our very holistic-oriented pediatrician advised us to do so. The second time was when my son was cutting four teeth at once. He was screaming his head off and nothing worked. I tried just about everything. He was in so much pain he was not nursing. I thought about what I would do if I were cutting so many teeth and, since my little one can't say "please give me some relief" I gave him a dose of tylenol. He got three new teeth the next day. I am so glad I do not live in an era where fast and (generally) safe pain relief is not readily available for my child. Yes, people should not overdo it, and clearly some people do, but your comment was unnecessary.

Final thought: A friend of mine is an EMT and told me that the first thing they would do, if called to a home for a child with an extremely high fever, would be to administer tylenol. I now have two friends who have kids who get febrile seizures. Some of you people who are so anti-drug are absolutely mental. I imagine I agree with you on many issues, and yet you can't think of a better way to make your point than snark and drama. *sigh*

I agree, also very holistic approach and rarely give meds because of things like this. But if you've ever seen a child have a febrile seizure you would follow the advice of your ped and give medicine for fevers over 103. also, my child has had surgery and I was very nervous about the pain medication, etc. But it had to be done. The ped gave me some great studies on infant pain. It should not be taken lightly as it can have serious impact. anyway, I doubt you would go through surgery and not have some type of medication. It is not all about teething and mild fevers.

[Anonymous]

For non-holistic mamas: Just went to Giant in Bethesda. The chewable children's tylenol and chewable benedryls are not recalled.
I like having back-up, fwiw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the PPs who feels that sometimes in this country we're too quick to turn to medications. I don't think my post was snarky at all. Just making a point that you really need to think twice before you turn to the easy answer of Motrin/Tylenol for everything.

Apparently many of you were offended by that suggestion.

Okay, that's fine. Continue on. If you have so much trust in these pharmaceutical corporations, then by all means, continue overusing antibiotics, continue giving Motrin after shots (which has been shown to be a bad idea).

People, just remember that this is BIG BUSINESS. These companies are making boatloads of money convincing parents that "modern medicine" will save their kids.

I agree with you PP. I don't have to worry about this recall because I don't buy any of those products.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
I agree, also very holistic approach and rarely give meds because of things like this. But if you've ever seen a child have a febrile seizure you would follow the advice of your ped and give medicine for fevers over 103. also, my child has had surgery and I was very nervous about the pain medication, etc. But it had to be done. The ped gave me some great studies on infant pain. It should not be taken lightly as it can have serious impact. anyway, I doubt you would go through surgery and not have some type of medication. It is not all about teething and mild fevers.

I'm the 9:30 poster, and I completely agree with this. There are definitely times when medication is necessary. But, I do find that some people will medicate for even the slightest teething pain. I have an acquaintance who gives her child Benedryl every time they fly to sedate him. Sorry, but I think that's more for the convenience of the parents than the comfort of the kid.

No, I would not go through surgery without medication. I'm NOT anti-med. I just think medicine needs to be treated like a DRUG. It is a DRUG. Not just a grape flavored juice that you can give your kid at the slightest indication of discomfort. There are risks associated with any medication. Please keep that in mind when you choose to give your child a drug.

And, I want to reiterate that companies are making big money off these drugs. By making you think that they're essential for everybody. "You must have back up Tylenol/Motrin in the house, or else you're putting your child in harm's way."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My daughter was hospitalized a few weeks ago for 4 days and 4 nights and they ran tons of tests and found nothing wrong. I just looked at the Zyrtec bottle that is just about all gone and the number on the bottle is one that was recalled. She has had three seizures and we couldn't figure out what they were from. This was and is still very frightening. I am now sure that this was from the Zyrtec. So, now what do I do? Thank God, we didn't give her any of the last of the Zyrtec. What is really frightening is that we purchased two bottles a few months ago and she just about finished the second bottle. She was taking it a few times a day for a few months. So, I am sure this was the cause. Check all of the bottles in your home and let your friends know about this. I would hate for anyone to go through all that we have gone through.

I would call your pediatrician with your suspicions. Aren't docs required to report adverse reactions to medication? If the company is currently saying that the recall is cautionary and no problems have actually occurred, the authorities need to know otherwise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the PPs who feels that sometimes in this country we're too quick to turn to medications. I don't think my post was snarky at all. Just making a point that you really need to think twice before you turn to the easy answer of Motrin/Tylenol for everything.

Apparently many of you were offended by that suggestion.

Okay, that's fine. Continue on. If you have so much trust in these pharmaceutical corporations, then by all means, continue overusing antibiotics, continue giving Motrin after shots (which has been shown to be a bad idea).

People, just remember that this is BIG BUSINESS. These companies are making boatloads of money convincing parents that "modern medicine" will save their kids.

I agree with you PP. I don't have to worry about this recall because I don't buy any of those produ[/b[b]]cts.


What a cruel statement considering how worried these posters are. There's no need to do the "I told you so."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm one of the PPs who feels that sometimes in this country we're too quick to turn to medications. I don't think my post was snarky at all. Just making a point that you really need to think twice before you turn to the easy answer of Motrin/Tylenol for everything. Apparently many of you were offended by that suggestion. Okay, that's fine. Continue on. If you have so much trust in these pharmaceutical corporations, then by all means, continue overusing antibiotics, continue giving Motrin after shots (which has been shown to be a bad idea). People, just remember that this is BIG BUSINESS. These companies are making boatloads of money convincing parents that "modern medicine" will save their kids.

Look, here's the thing. I agree with you, but just want to say "please don't help." Your first message was most certainly rude and so was this one.

Yes, "we" as a society are most certainly too quick to administer drugs. But that doesn't mean that the appropriate response to a thread on a major drug recall is "when will you people ever learn not to overmedicate?" I'm sure posters on this board run the gamut from "dosing lightly" (according to your definition) and dosing very prudently, but your posts dismiss us all as overmedicating fools who have no one to blame but ourselves for exposing our kids to bad medicine. When posters correct you and say "I do not give tylenol lightly, so your post was offensive," you respond with an irrelevant "go on then, continue" and throw in overuse of antibiotics for good measure. You're not trying to help anyone; you're clearly just trying to pick a fight. Most parents on this board are just trying to do the best they can. If you really want to educate people about drug overuse, there are better ways and forums to do so. The issue here is a problem with the companies you say are at fault, yet you manage to turn the blame around on parents. Your message is offensive to the posters here who use drugs prudently and carefully and your sweeping generalizations do nothing to advance your argument. AGain, I wish people like you would not try to "educate" others -- your the type of person who makes the holistic movement look like it is populated by nutjobs with tunnel vision.

[Anonymous]

My daughter was hospitalized a few weeks ago for 4 days and 4 nights and they ran tons of tests and found nothing wrong. I just looked at the Zyrtec bottle that is just about all gone and the number on the bottle is one that was recalled. She has had three seizures and we couldn't figure out what they were from. This was and is still very frightening. I am now sure that this was from the Zyrtec. So, now what do I do? Thank God, we didn't give her any of the last of the Zyrtec. What is really frightening is that we purchased two bottles a few months ago and she just about finished the second bottle. She was taking it a few times a day for a few months. So, I am sure this was the cause. Check all of the bottles in your home and let your friends know about this. I would hate for anyone to go through all that we have gone through.

I completely sympathize with you and understand how frightening this must have been. But you really have no way of being sure that the Zyrtec caused this. There's a correlation between the two things, not a causal relationship.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For non-holistic mamas: Just went to Giant in Bethesda. The chewable children's tylenol and chewable benedryls are not recalled.
I like having back-up, fwiw.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Look, here's the thing. I agree with you, but just want to say "please don't help." Your first message was most certainly rude and so was this one.

Yes, "we" as a society are most certainly too quick to administer drugs. But that doesn't mean that the appropriate response to a thread on a major drug recall is "when will you people ever learn not to overmedicate?" I'm sure posters on this board run the gamut from "dosing lightly" (according to your definition) and dosing very prudently, but your posts dismiss us all as overmedicating fools who have no one to blame but ourselves for exposing our kids to bad medicine. When posters correct you and say "I do not give tylenol lightly, so your post was offensive," you respond with an irrelevant "go on then, continue" and throw in overuse of antibiotics for good measure. You're not trying to help anyone; you're clearly just trying to pick a fight. Most parents on this board are just trying to do the best they can. If you really want to educate people about drug overuse, there are better ways and forums to do so. The issue here is a problem with the companies you say are at fault, yet you manage to turn the blame around on parents. Your message is offensive to the posters here who use drugs prudently and carefully and your sweeping generalizations do nothing to advance your argument. AGain, I wish people like you would not try to "educate" others -- your the type of person who makes the holistic movement look like it is populated by nutjobs with tunnel vision.

I still stand by my posts. They were not "most certainly rude". I didn't yell and scream at any parents telling them they were idiots. I don't even think that at all. I get that we all do what's best for our kids.

I also get that it's incredibly difficult to be a parent. And, drug companies make it even more difficult when they market products as risk-free cure-alls.

You may feel that this thread is an inappropriate place to discuss that, but that's your opinion. I think it's the perfect place to demonstrate that there are RISKS to overusing drugs of any kind.

Of course I believe that the companies are at fault. That's why I repeatedly reminded people that they are in business to make a profit.

You're sounding overly defensive and testy.

[Anonymous]

OP here. You anti-drug people are unbelievable. Why are you even here, since this thread doesn't apply to you?

You don't have to be outright rude to be condescending. Whatever else you want to say about DCUM posters, we are all a highly educated bunch. Just because some people may not parent identically to you doesn't mean they are wrong or ill-informed.

[Anonymous]

you just don't get it... drugs are recalled and you're looking for back ups! OMG!