Police investigating sexual assault at Springbrook High School

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why an ambulance wasn’t called? They would have arrived sooner. It doesn’t make sense.

What do you think they called 911 means?
Your question should be why an ambulance wasn't sent?

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Anonymous wrote:The school called 911. A community engagement officer was not available - SEND REGULAR COPS! Why on earth did it take 90 minutes to respond? Incompetent policing.

If a regular patrol officer responded in a timely way, there wouldn’t be an opportunity to stoke the SRO flames again. You really think cops give a damn if an assaulted kid has to wait if the wait means they can make a point to stick it to Will Jawando?

This is tiresome. Rest assured MCPD will still do their jobs because we have a very good police force. Yes, many are tired of Jawando’s unnecessary attacks on their honor and professionalism. That doesn’t change the fact they’ll do their jobs. Yes, the police care. If you don’t believe that, perhaps it’s time for you to do a ride-along or enroll in the citizen’s academy. Then you can meet some actual officers instead of listening to whatever social media decides to spew.

Do you understand a girl was assaulted (or raped) at a high school? Do you understand police did not do their job as this was covered up? Do you understand that the police aren't there within 5 minutes because MCPS didn't report it? MCPD cannot do their job if they don't have staff in the schools who work outside of MCPS to do what is best for our kids. Imagine the horror of those parents? Everyone here screams mental health issues. Now this is truly a mental health issue as this child will have long term issues because she was attacked at school and no one, NO ONE protected her. So, when you are screaming mental health and no SRO's because your Larlina cannot be at home with you as your homelife sucks, think of what has been done to this child.

You obviously didn't read the article. MCPS called 911 and MCPD didn't get there until 90 minutes later.

Then, they should have done more. 90 minutes is unacceptable. They should have called the parents and an ambulance to transport her to the hospital. This makes no senses.

The school could have called SVID directly. This was rape.

The County Council needs to address the breakdown of basic community services. Both the Magruder case and now the Springbrook case shows a very slow response for incidents on school campuses.

While they are at it, the council can also address the shortage of police officers that is mentioned in the article posted above. Perhaps they can evaluate what has led to MCPD’s retention and recruitment problems. More officers = quicker response times.

They already know why. They were briefed on police staffing last month. Two major reasons -- one is massive retirements because of all the cops hired in the 90s when crime was high. The other is the political anti-police sentiment in the county. Police used to like to work here. No longer. They know they aren't supported by their ultimate boss -- Elrich. And the loudest voices on Council aren't big fans, either.

65% of MCPD police can retire today with at least partial benefits. If that doesn't scare folks, I don't know what will.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why an ambulance wasn’t called? They would have arrived sooner. It doesn’t make sense.

What do you think they called 911 means?
Your question should be why an ambulance wasn't sent?

It means both police and medical attention should be sent within a few minutes. Someone should have gone to help that child.

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Anonymous wrote:The school called 911. A community engagement officer was not available - SEND REGULAR COPS! Why on earth did it take 90 minutes to respond? Incompetent policing.

If a regular patrol officer responded in a timely way, there wouldn’t be an opportunity to stoke the SRO flames again. You really think cops give a damn if an assaulted kid has to wait if the wait means they can make a point to stick it to Will Jawando?

This is tiresome. Rest assured MCPD will still do their jobs because we have a very good police force. Yes, many are tired of Jawando’s unnecessary attacks on their honor and professionalism. That doesn’t change the fact they’ll do their jobs. Yes, the police care. If you don’t believe that, perhaps it’s time for you to do a ride-along or enroll in the citizen’s academy. Then you can meet some actual officers instead of listening to whatever social media decides to spew.

Do you understand a girl was assaulted (or raped) at a high school? Do you understand police did not do their job as this was covered up? Do you understand that the police aren't there within 5 minutes because MCPS didn't report it? MCPD cannot do their job if they don't have staff in the schools who work outside of MCPS to do what is best for our kids. Imagine the horror of those parents? Everyone here screams mental health issues. Now this is truly a mental health issue as this child will have long term issues because she was attacked at school and no one, NO ONE protected her. So, when you are screaming mental health and no SRO's because your Larlina cannot be at home with you as your homelife sucks, think of what has been done to this child.

You obviously didn't read the article. MCPS called 911 and MCPD didn't get there until 90 minutes later.

Then, they should have done more. 90 minutes is unacceptable. They should have called the parents and an ambulance to transport her to the hospital. This makes no senses.

The school could have called SVID directly. This was rape.

The County Council needs to address the breakdown of basic community services. Both the Magruder case and now the Springbrook case shows a very slow response for incidents on school campuses.

While they are at it, the council can also address the shortage of police officers that is mentioned in the article posted above. Perhaps they can evaluate what has led to MCPD’s retention and recruitment problems. More officers = quicker response times.

They already know why. They were briefed on police staffing last month. Two major reasons -- one is massive retirements because of all the cops hired in the 90s when crime was high. The other is the political anti-police sentiment in the county. Police used to like to work here. No longer. They know they aren't supported by their ultimate boss -- Elrich. And the loudest voices on Council aren't big fans, either.

65% of MCPD police can retire today with at least partial benefits. If that doesn't scare folks, I don't know what will.

Can retire and can afford to retire are two different issues.

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Anonymous wrote:This incident happened on Tuesday. The news story broke on Friday.

Why was there no communication of a serious violent act on a MCPS school campus between Tuesday and Friday?

Was the accused student in class after Tuesday? What is being done to protect female students from this violent individual?

I also thought police officers were back into high schools after the Magruder shooting. Was that only for a week? 90 minutes to respond for a rape is terrible.

This is typical for MCPS. Cover up and hope it doesn't hit the press. Kudos to the reporter for breaking this story.

Remember the Rockville HS alleged gang rape case a few years ago? The public only learned about it because MCPD (police) issued a press release about it. MCPS was silent about it, even to parents at that HS. If your child was at Rockville, wouldn't you want to know a gang rape may have taken place there earlier that week?

This is one of the reasons we moved to private last year.

These things happen at privates to and they cover it up as well.

This is BS. Provide a news article for a case where rape occurred on school property at a private school.

Um, can’t provide it BECAUSE THEY COVER IT UP.

Seriously

Or it never happens. Privates can determine who is a student and they can expel students. Rapes and shootings are not happening on private school campuses.

Of course rapes are happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've been posting about the danger of bathrooms and locker rooms for a while and am happy it's finally gaining traction.

For bathrooms MCPS should, as a PP mentioned, redesign all bathrooms so that there is no outside (hallway) door - on top of being unsafe, they are unnecessary and unsanitary.

The SRO or hall monitors' stations can be near bathrooms.

For locker rooms, the PE teacher, coach, or another authority figure should be present during school and after-school activity hours. and not in an office where they can't see what's going on.

There are a dozen bathrooms in a HS. And what are "hall monitors"?

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Anonymous wrote:The school called 911. A community engagement officer was not available - SEND REGULAR COPS! Why on earth did it take 90 minutes to respond? Incompetent policing.

If a regular patrol officer responded in a timely way, there wouldn’t be an opportunity to stoke the SRO flames again. You really think cops give a damn if an assaulted kid has to wait if the wait means they can make a point to stick it to Will Jawando?

This is tiresome. Rest assured MCPD will still do their jobs because we have a very good police force. Yes, many are tired of Jawando’s unnecessary attacks on their honor and professionalism. That doesn’t change the fact they’ll do their jobs. Yes, the police care. If you don’t believe that, perhaps it’s time for you to do a ride-along or enroll in the citizen’s academy. Then you can meet some actual officers instead of listening to whatever social media decides to spew.

Do you understand a girl was assaulted (or raped) at a high school? Do you understand police did not do their job as this was covered up? Do you understand that the police aren't there within 5 minutes because MCPS didn't report it? MCPD cannot do their job if they don't have staff in the schools who work outside of MCPS to do what is best for our kids. Imagine the horror of those parents? Everyone here screams mental health issues. Now this is truly a mental health issue as this child will have long term issues because she was attacked at school and no one, NO ONE protected her. So, when you are screaming mental health and no SRO's because your Larlina cannot be at home with you as your homelife sucks, think of what has been done to this child.

You obviously didn't read the article. MCPS called 911 and MCPD didn't get there until 90 minutes later.

Then, they should have done more. 90 minutes is unacceptable. They should have called the parents and an ambulance to transport her to the hospital. This makes no senses.

The school could have called SVID directly. This was rape.

The County Council needs to address the breakdown of basic community services. Both the Magruder case and now the Springbrook case shows a very slow response for incidents on school campuses.

While they are at it, the council can also address the shortage of police officers that is mentioned in the article posted above. Perhaps they can evaluate what has led to MCPD’s retention and recruitment problems. More officers = quicker response times.

They already know why. They were briefed on police staffing last month. Two major reasons -- one is massive retirements because of all the cops hired in the 90s when crime was high. The other is the political anti-police sentiment in the county. Police used to like to work here. No longer. They know they aren't supported by their ultimate boss -- Elrich. And the loudest voices on Council aren't big fans, either.

65% of MCPD police can retire today with at least partial benefits. If that doesn't scare folks, I don't know what will.

Can retire and can afford to retire are two different issues.

With morale as low as it is, I suspect plenty of officers will retire before they otherwise would have. The loud voices on the council have done a tremendous amount of damage to MCPD and I believe we’re starting to see the impact of the council’s actions. We went from having a strong force to having one that can’t fill academy classes.

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Anonymous wrote:The school called 911. A community engagement officer was not available - SEND REGULAR COPS! Why on earth did it take 90 minutes to respond? Incompetent policing.

If a regular patrol officer responded in a timely way, there wouldn’t be an opportunity to stoke the SRO flames again. You really think cops give a damn if an assaulted kid has to wait if the wait means they can make a point to stick it to Will Jawando?

This is tiresome. Rest assured MCPD will still do their jobs because we have a very good police force. Yes, many are tired of Jawando’s unnecessary attacks on their honor and professionalism. That doesn’t change the fact they’ll do their jobs. Yes, the police care. If you don’t believe that, perhaps it’s time for you to do a ride-along or enroll in the citizen’s academy. Then you can meet some actual officers instead of listening to whatever social media decides to spew.

Do you understand a girl was assaulted (or raped) at a high school? Do you understand police did not do their job as this was covered up? Do you understand that the police aren't there within 5 minutes because MCPS didn't report it? MCPD cannot do their job if they don't have staff in the schools who work outside of MCPS to do what is best for our kids. Imagine the horror of those parents? Everyone here screams mental health issues. Now this is truly a mental health issue as this child will have long term issues because she was attacked at school and no one, NO ONE protected her. So, when you are screaming mental health and no SRO's because your Larlina cannot be at home with you as your homelife sucks, think of what has been done to this child.

You obviously didn't read the article. MCPS called 911 and MCPD didn't get there until 90 minutes later.

Then, they should have done more. 90 minutes is unacceptable. They should have called the parents and an ambulance to transport her to the hospital. This makes no senses.

The school could have called SVID directly. This was rape.

The County Council needs to address the breakdown of basic community services. Both the Magruder case and now the Springbrook case shows a very slow response for incidents on school campuses.

While they are at it, the council can also address the shortage of police officers that is mentioned in the article posted above. Perhaps they can evaluate what has led to MCPD’s retention and recruitment problems. More officers = quicker response times.

They already know why. They were briefed on police staffing last month. Two major reasons -- one is massive retirements because of all the cops hired in the 90s when crime was high. The other is the political anti-police sentiment in the county. Police used to like to work here. No longer. They know they aren't supported by their ultimate boss -- Elrich. And the loudest voices on Council aren't big fans, either.

65% of MCPD police can retire today with at least partial benefits. If that doesn't scare folks, I don't know what will.

Can retire and can afford to retire are two different issues.

With morale as low as it is, I suspect plenty of officers will retire before they otherwise would have. The loud voices on the council have done a tremendous amount of damage to MCPD and I believe we’re starting to see the impact of the council’s actions. We went from having a strong force to having one that can’t fill academy classes.

I doubt it. I worked for county government and those with pensions stayed till full retirement. They are the ones you need to get out.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've been posting about the danger of bathrooms and locker rooms for a while and am happy it's finally gaining traction.

For bathrooms MCPS should, as a PP mentioned, redesign all bathrooms so that there is no outside (hallway) door - on top of being unsafe, they are unnecessary and unsanitary.

The SRO or hall monitors' stations can be near bathrooms.

For locker rooms, the PE teacher, coach, or another authority figure should be present during school and after-school activity hours. and not in an office where they can't see what's going on.

There are a dozen bathrooms in a HS. And what are "hall monitors"?

It can be a warm body to a staff member. And, we need dozens of people acting as security.

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Anonymous wrote:The school called 911. A community engagement officer was not available - SEND REGULAR COPS! Why on earth did it take 90 minutes to respond? Incompetent policing.

If a regular patrol officer responded in a timely way, there wouldn’t be an opportunity to stoke the SRO flames again. You really think cops give a damn if an assaulted kid has to wait if the wait means they can make a point to stick it to Will Jawando?

This is tiresome. Rest assured MCPD will still do their jobs because we have a very good police force. Yes, many are tired of Jawando’s unnecessary attacks on their honor and professionalism. That doesn’t change the fact they’ll do their jobs. Yes, the police care. If you don’t believe that, perhaps it’s time for you to do a ride-along or enroll in the citizen’s academy. Then you can meet some actual officers instead of listening to whatever social media decides to spew.

Do you understand a girl was assaulted (or raped) at a high school? Do you understand police did not do their job as this was covered up? Do you understand that the police aren't there within 5 minutes because MCPS didn't report it? MCPD cannot do their job if they don't have staff in the schools who work outside of MCPS to do what is best for our kids. Imagine the horror of those parents? Everyone here screams mental health issues. Now this is truly a mental health issue as this child will have long term issues because she was attacked at school and no one, NO ONE protected her. So, when you are screaming mental health and no SRO's because your Larlina cannot be at home with you as your homelife sucks, think of what has been done to this child.

You obviously didn't read the article. MCPS called 911 and MCPD didn't get there until 90 minutes later.

Then, they should have done more. 90 minutes is unacceptable. They should have called the parents and an ambulance to transport her to the hospital. This makes no senses.

The school could have called SVID directly. This was rape.

The County Council needs to address the breakdown of basic community services. Both the Magruder case and now the Springbrook case shows a very slow response for incidents on school campuses.

While they are at it, the council can also address the shortage of police officers that is mentioned in the article posted above. Perhaps they can evaluate what has led to MCPD’s retention and recruitment problems. More officers = quicker response times.

They already know why. They were briefed on police staffing last month. Two major reasons -- one is massive retirements because of all the cops hired in the 90s when crime was high. The other is the political anti-police sentiment in the county. Police used to like to work here. No longer. They know they aren't supported by their ultimate boss -- Elrich. And the loudest voices on Council aren't big fans, either.

65% of MCPD police can retire today with at least partial benefits. If that doesn't scare folks, I don't know what will.

Can retire and can afford to retire are two different issues.

With morale as low as it is, I suspect plenty of officers will retire before they otherwise would have. The loud voices on the council have done a tremendous amount of damage to MCPD and I believe we’re starting to see the impact of the council’s actions. We went from having a strong force to having one that can’t fill academy classes.

Yup. It's really disconcerting.

Plus, many retire and just go work for other departments in friendlier areas.

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Anonymous wrote:The school called 911. A community engagement officer was not available - SEND REGULAR COPS! Why on earth did it take 90 minutes to respond? Incompetent policing.

If a regular patrol officer responded in a timely way, there wouldn’t be an opportunity to stoke the SRO flames again. You really think cops give a damn if an assaulted kid has to wait if the wait means they can make a point to stick it to Will Jawando?

This is tiresome. Rest assured MCPD will still do their jobs because we have a very good police force. Yes, many are tired of Jawando’s unnecessary attacks on their honor and professionalism. That doesn’t change the fact they’ll do their jobs. Yes, the police care. If you don’t believe that, perhaps it’s time for you to do a ride-along or enroll in the citizen’s academy. Then you can meet some actual officers instead of listening to whatever social media decides to spew.

Do you understand a girl was assaulted (or raped) at a high school? Do you understand police did not do their job as this was covered up? Do you understand that the police aren't there within 5 minutes because MCPS didn't report it? MCPD cannot do their job if they don't have staff in the schools who work outside of MCPS to do what is best for our kids. Imagine the horror of those parents? Everyone here screams mental health issues. Now this is truly a mental health issue as this child will have long term issues because she was attacked at school and no one, NO ONE protected her. So, when you are screaming mental health and no SRO's because your Larlina cannot be at home with you as your homelife sucks, think of what has been done to this child.

You obviously didn't read the article. MCPS called 911 and MCPD didn't get there until 90 minutes later.

Then, they should have done more. 90 minutes is unacceptable. They should have called the parents and an ambulance to transport her to the hospital. This makes no senses.

The school could have called SVID directly. This was rape.

The County Council needs to address the breakdown of basic community services. Both the Magruder case and now the Springbrook case shows a very slow response for incidents on school campuses.

While they are at it, the council can also address the shortage of police officers that is mentioned in the article posted above. Perhaps they can evaluate what has led to MCPD’s retention and recruitment problems. More officers = quicker response times.

They already know why. They were briefed on police staffing last month. Two major reasons -- one is massive retirements because of all the cops hired in the 90s when crime was high. The other is the political anti-police sentiment in the county. Police used to like to work here. No longer. They know they aren't supported by their ultimate boss -- Elrich. And the loudest voices on Council aren't big fans, either.

65% of MCPD police can retire today with at least partial benefits. If that doesn't scare folks, I don't know what will.

Can retire and can afford to retire are two different issues.

With morale as low as it is, I suspect plenty of officers will retire before they otherwise would have. The loud voices on the council have done a tremendous amount of damage to MCPD and I believe we’re starting to see the impact of the council’s actions. We went from having a strong force to having one that can’t fill academy classes.

I doubt it. I worked for county government and those with pensions stayed till full retirement. They are the ones you need to get out.

Police are no longer doing that. They have an incentive to stay -- enter the DROP and get three years of retirement paid to an account while still collecting their salary. And they are starting to leave before they get that benefit. That's how badly people want to get out.

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Anonymous wrote:+1 You think this is the first time MCPS tries covering up rape in its schools?

No communication to the community and no plans to prevent future assaults at Springbrook or other MCPS middle schools and high schools.

Bathrooms and locker rooms are magnets for crimes in schools because they are the places where security cameras don’t exist. These are the areas where the majority of drugs are sold andrapes occur. It’s no coincidence that the Magruder shooting happened in a bathroom.

Dr. McKnight keeps putting out fires and fakes transparency versus developing a concrete security plan for schools to implement. It speaks volume that her own child goes to private school instead of MCPS.

There's a lot of space between "sexual assault" and "rape". Language matters.

The dispatch call was labeled "forcible rape."

[Anonymous]

Still no arrest reported that matches this case, unless the perp is 15 or younger. I hope the girl has gotten support.

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Anonymous wrote:+1 You think this is the first time MCPS tries covering up rape in its schools?

No communication to the community and no plans to prevent future assaults at Springbrook or other MCPS middle schools and high schools.

Bathrooms and locker rooms are magnets for crimes in schools because they are the places where security cameras don’t exist. These are the areas where the majority of drugs are sold andrapes occur. It’s no coincidence that the Magruder shooting happened in a bathroom.

Dr. McKnight keeps putting out fires and fakes transparency versus developing a concrete security plan for schools to implement. It speaks volume that her own child goes to private school instead of MCPS.

There's a lot of space between "sexual assault" and "rape". Language matters.

The dispatch call was labeled "forcible rape."

not sure where you’re getting your info. The dispatch call was entered as a sexual assault. There is no “ forcible rape code in the computer system.

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Anonymous wrote:+1 You think this is the first time MCPS tries covering up rape in its schools?

No communication to the community and no plans to prevent future assaults at Springbrook or other MCPS middle schools and high schools.

Bathrooms and locker rooms are magnets for crimes in schools because they are the places where security cameras don’t exist. These are the areas where the majority of drugs are sold andrapes occur. It’s no coincidence that the Magruder shooting happened in a bathroom.

Dr. McKnight keeps putting out fires and fakes transparency versus developing a concrete security plan for schools to implement. It speaks volume that her own child goes to private school instead of MCPS.

There's a lot of space between "sexual assault" and "rape". Language matters.

The dispatch call was labeled "forcible rape."

not sure where you’re getting your info. The dispatch call was entered as a sexual assault. There is no “ forcible rape code in the computer system.

In the county's crime report database there are three crime description categories - the first is "crime against person. Second is "Forcible Rape." Third is "Rape - Strong Arm." The block address is Springbrook's and the "place" field is labeled as a school. I misspoke when saying dispatch.