“Stuff Some Adults Don’t Want You to Read” at Langley

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Anonymous wrote:This is yet another way that schools are making it an us (parents) versus them (adults in schools) mentality. Perpetuating the notion our kids, while at school, are independent and unaccountable to their parents is troubling. Or, at the worst indefensible, when "teaching" that their parents are morally wrong or "bad" because parents beliefs are counter to what is being normalized at school. I do not want to dictate what schools teach my kids, I just want schools to reiterate to our children that parents have the biggest stake in their lives. And, no matter what, their parents and what their parents provide, encourage, and instill in kids are the biggest indicators of success - not replaceable by anything a school can, nor should, do for children. Parenting is hard enough these days without having to fight and counter what adults, who are not in any way (legally, financially, emotionally) responsible for our children, are "teaching."

https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/educations-enduring-love-affair-luxury-beliefs


What values are you trying to instill in your kids that conflict with them reading Maus?


Not the PP you’re quoting but give the reasons Maus was removed from school, I suppose I sorta am. https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-696465/amp


So your big problem with Maus is that the son uses profanity to express his anger and grief over his mother committing suicide and his father burning his mother’s journals after her death? That kind of effort to control and suppress a kid’s emotions typically doesn’t work out very well.


I don’t have a “big problem” with Maus. I would let my kids read it, absolutely. But does it reflect the “values” I would want to teach my kids? Not really. It’s a story of big ugly generational trauma and conflict.


And it’s one that really happened. I wish I could find the article I read recently about how the ongoing efforts in this country to sanitize the Holocaust and make it more palatable by finding stories of redemption do not honor the millions of people who suffered and died in the Holocaust, and do a disservice to our understanding and appreciation of history. It was really powerful. Your kid should understand how horrific the Holocaust actually was and therefore why it is so important that we make sure nothing like that happens again.

I mean really, let’s think about The Boy in the Striped Pajamas for a minute. Most children were killed upon arrival at Auschwitz and the ones that weren’t generally didn’t have freedom to go wandering around unpatrolled areas of the camp, so how likely is it that this German boy would have come into contact with a Jewish boy through a fence at all, let alone repeatedly to build a friendship? And then in the end we’re supposed to sympathize with the Nazi family because they only begin to recognize the atrocities they have committed when they realize it cost them their own child? It is offensive.
Anonymous
Why do some teachers and librarians want students to read Gender Queer so badly?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:This is yet another way that schools are making it an us (parents) versus them (adults in schools) mentality. Perpetuating the notion our kids, while at school, are independent and unaccountable to their parents is troubling. Or, at the worst indefensible, when "teaching" that their parents are morally wrong or "bad" because parents beliefs are counter to what is being normalized at school. I do not want to dictate what schools teach my kids, I just want schools to reiterate to our children that parents have the biggest stake in their lives. And, no matter what, their parents and what their parents provide, encourage, and instill in kids are the biggest indicators of success - not replaceable by anything a school can, nor should, do for children. Parenting is hard enough these days without having to fight and counter what adults, who are not in any way (legally, financially, emotionally) responsible for our children, are "teaching."

https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/educations-enduring-love-affair-luxury-beliefs


You read a lot into a display that served to encourage students to read and put them on notice that there are people trying to censor what they can read.

It's not like the sign said "Stuff Your Own Parents Don't Want You to Read."

It just screams insecurity that a few Langley parents would make a big deal out of this to the point where the principal would feel a need to apologize. I bet she wishes she'd never left Marshall.


Bet it is more than "a few" parents and that many of you don't have kid or even live in fcps.


Langley is not Loudoun. Our conservatives lean more toward classic conservative which is why, if you lived here, you would have noticed so many “Republicans for Biden” signs during the last election; they’re generally not extremists.
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Anonymous wrote:It wasn’t just the principal. The Region 1 superintendent (Doug Tyson) issued a separate apology as well. It’s just sad they feel the need to apologize for looking for creative ways to encourage kids to read.


There are many, many other ways to better encourage folks to read than this. C'mon - be better.


I literally don’t see any problem at all with the display. What are your issues with it, specifically?


Kids always get curious when they realize the parents don't want them to see something or do something. So, it seems the school played with kids "curiosity" to actually encourage them to read those books . Why encourage books that have sexual content? There are many more appropriate books that a school can encourage kids to read.

I am very disappointed with Langley that they played with kids psyche like that. I am not a parent there, but if I was, I would raise my voice. This is not a political issue, it is an educational scandal.



OMG!! THE LIBRARIANS ENCOURAGED KIDS TO READ BOOKS AT THE LIBRARY!!



There it is, I am fixing your sentence for you.

OMG! THE LIBRARIAN ENCOURAGED KIDS TO READ BOOKS WITH SEXUAL CONTENT AT THE LIBRARY!!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is yet another way that schools are making it an us (parents) versus them (adults in schools) mentality. Perpetuating the notion our kids, while at school, are independent and unaccountable to their parents is troubling. Or, at the worst indefensible, when "teaching" that their parents are morally wrong or "bad" because parents beliefs are counter to what is being normalized at school. I do not want to dictate what schools teach my kids, I just want schools to reiterate to our children that parents have the biggest stake in their lives. And, no matter what, their parents and what their parents provide, encourage, and instill in kids are the biggest indicators of success - not replaceable by anything a school can, nor should, do for children. Parenting is hard enough these days without having to fight and counter what adults, who are not in any way (legally, financially, emotionally) responsible for our children, are "teaching."

https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/educations-enduring-love-affair-luxury-beliefs


What values are you trying to instill in your kids that conflict with them reading Maus?


Not the PP you’re quoting but give the reasons Maus was removed from school, I suppose I sorta am. https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-696465/amp


So your big problem with Maus is that the son uses profanity to express his anger and grief over his mother committing suicide and his father burning his mother’s journals after her death? That kind of effort to control and suppress a kid’s emotions typically doesn’t work out very well.


Natalie Wexler did a nice, nuanced take on the Maus flap that everyone should read: https://nataliewexler.substack.com/p/whats-behind-the-flap-about-maus?r=33h4l

When I was in 8th grade the profanity and nudity in Maus would've really bothered me. I was a sheltered kid and I wanted to stay sheltered. There are lots of books I have read and loved as an adult that I'm glad I wasn't required to read in high school. It's sad to me that my upbringing is considered automatically wrong now. I might chose differently for my own kids when they hit MS and HS, because they are different kids than I was with different levels of sensitivity.


You get that all of the characters in Maus were animals, right? The naked figure was a mouse? When you were in eighth grade, did it disturb you to see an unclothed squirrel outside?
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Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine parents complaining about that at almost any other public FCPS high school.


I think we just have a handful of troublemaker parents who love to get national attention on these things. It’s not the first time they’ve overreacted.



Please stop confusing obsession by a couple of right-wing media outlets with "national attention."

While it's true a lot of this behavior by the most disturbed people are basically bids for attention and a slot on Fox News, hardly anyone watches Fox News. In prime time it averages about 4 million viewers. The American population is 330 million. Fox's audience has also declined 34% over a year ago.

Just to compare, 8.2 million people watch World News Tonight on ABC, 7.3 million watch Nightly News with Lester Holt and 5 million people watch CBS Evening News.

So the network news, which is NOT covering this stuff in our area because, you know, it's not actual news, combines for nearly 21 million viewers.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It use to be students had a voice in their schools. At least in MoCo they did. Not sure students ever have had a real voice in their schools in FCPS. FCPS have no real "student" newspaper, not independent the way it should be. Not the way that actually models democracy. Or even elections to student leadership positions, in student government. In FCPS sometimes the election results are messed-with by teacher sponsors.


Chantilly and McLean beg to differ.

https://www.fcps.edu/news/two-schools-selected-2021-first-amendment-press-freedom-award
Anonymous
It was a ridiculous display clearly done to piss off parents. There is no way it wasn’t done maliciously.

The sad thing is that it is Black History month. Instead of focusing on that and promoting books by black authors and about black history, they are creating displays to cause issues and distract from that.

And PPs all saying it was clever and all that - you are pretty transparent. I know you aren’t dumb enough to really believe they did it to promote reading.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It was a ridiculous display clearly done to piss off parents. There is no way it wasn’t done maliciously.

The sad thing is that it is Black History month. Instead of focusing on that and promoting books by black authors and about black history, they are creating displays to cause issues and distract from that.

And PPs all saying it was clever and all that - you are pretty transparent. I know you aren’t dumb enough to really believe they did it to promote reading.


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Anonymous wrote:It was a ridiculous display clearly done to piss off parents. There is no way it wasn’t done maliciously.

The sad thing is that it is Black History month. Instead of focusing on that and promoting books by black authors and about black history, they are creating displays to cause issues and distract from that.

And PPs all saying it was clever and all that - you are pretty transparent. I know you aren’t dumb enough to really believe they did it to promote reading.


They one have one single book display in the entire Langley library? Those poor little rich kids.

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Anonymous wrote:It wasn’t just the principal. The Region 1 superintendent (Doug Tyson) issued a separate apology as well. It’s just sad they feel the need to apologize for looking for creative ways to encourage kids to read.


There are many, many other ways to better encourage folks to read than this. C'mon - be better.


I literally don’t see any problem at all with the display. What are your issues with it, specifically?


Kids always get curious when they realize the parents don't want them to see something or do something. So, it seems the school played with kids "curiosity" to actually encourage them to read those books . Why encourage books that have sexual content? There are many more appropriate books that a school can encourage kids to read.

I am very disappointed with Langley that they played with kids psyche like that. I am not a parent there, but if I was, I would raise my voice. This is not a political issue, it is an educational scandal.



OMG!! THE LIBRARIANS ENCOURAGED KIDS TO READ BOOKS AT THE LIBRARY!!



There it is, I am fixing your sentence for you.

OMG! THE LIBRARIAN ENCOURAGED KIDS TO READ BOOKS WITH SEXUAL CONTENT AT THE LIBRARY!!



OMG - HIGH SCHOOLERS MIGHT READ ABOUT SEX FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER?!?!?!?!?!

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:It wasn’t just the principal. The Region 1 superintendent (Doug Tyson) issued a separate apology as well. It’s just sad they feel the need to apologize for looking for creative ways to encourage kids to read.


There are many, many other ways to better encourage folks to read than this. C'mon - be better.


I literally don’t see any problem at all with the display. What are your issues with it, specifically?


Kids always get curious when they realize the parents don't want them to see something or do something. So, it seems the school played with kids "curiosity" to actually encourage them to read those books . Why encourage books that have sexual content? There are many more appropriate books that a school can encourage kids to read.

I am very disappointed with Langley that they played with kids psyche like that. I am not a parent there, but if I was, I would raise my voice. This is not a political issue, it is an educational scandal.



OMG!! THE LIBRARIANS ENCOURAGED KIDS TO READ BOOKS AT THE LIBRARY!!



There it is, I am fixing your sentence for you.

OMG! THE LIBRARIAN ENCOURAGED KIDS TO READ BOOKS WITH SEXUAL CONTENT AT THE LIBRARY!!



OMG - HIGH SCHOOLERS MIGHT READ ABOUT SEX FOR THE FIRST TIME EVER?!?!?!?!?!



PROMOTED BY SCHOOL? Why? School cannot promote better fit books for their education?
Anonymous
It was not done maliciously and I am totally supportive of pointing out to HS students that there are books people are trying to ban. They should know this and read them if they choose to.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:It wasn’t just the principal. The Region 1 superintendent (Doug Tyson) issued a separate apology as well. It’s just sad they feel the need to apologize for looking for creative ways to encourage kids to read.


Why do those losers still have jobs?

I’m a VA public school parent who pays more taxes than most so I get to make school decisions. Fire those MFers.


Entitled much?

Just curious...how outraged were you when your kids had to take part in active shooter drills?
Anonymous
The Principal and Librarian will be receiving thank you notes from me (a former Langley parent who still lives in the district). Good for them for promoting knowledge and discourse. Sad for the kids of parents who would protest this.
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