“Stuff Some Adults Don’t Want You to Read” at Langley

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Joe Rogan has published a couple books. Were the librarians displaying those in the same section? How would that make OP feel?

While his books do fall under the category of “stuff some adults don’t want you to read” they probably aren’t in the library.

The librarians have literary standards.

So… they’re banned? Because I read Animorphs as a kid. The bar for literary quality is low.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I thought it was clever and accurate but Republicans are in a constant state of outrage and anger and really want to limit information and education.

Accurate how? All the left wing outrage I have seen about this pretends it’s because the Tennessee school board was racist or anti-Semitic. Which is a lie.

It is accurate in that the books on display have attempted to have been censored by adults. Therefore “stuff adults don’t want you to read” is factually correct.

While that’s true, it does seem to be amplifying a lie. From my perspective.

The Tennessee school board banned Maus. That makes them anti-Semitic whether you acknowledge it or not

Nope. You are wrong and ignorant about the issue. https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-696465/amp

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is yet another way that schools are making it an us (parents) versus them (adults in schools) mentality. Perpetuating the notion our kids, while at school, are independent and unaccountable to their parents is troubling. Or, at the worst indefensible, when "teaching" that their parents are morally wrong or "bad" because parents beliefs are counter to what is being normalized at school. I do not want to dictate what schools teach my kids, I just want schools to reiterate to our children that parents have the biggest stake in their lives. And, no matter what, their parents and what their parents provide, encourage, and instill in kids are the biggest indicators of success - not replaceable by anything a school can, nor should, do for children. Parenting is hard enough these days without having to fight and counter what adults, who are not in any way (legally, financially, emotionally) responsible for our children, are "teaching."

https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/educations-enduring-love-affair-luxury-beliefs

What values are you trying to instill in your kids that conflict with them reading Maus?

Not the PP you’re quoting but give the reasons Maus was removed from school, I suppose I sorta am. https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-696465/amp

So your big problem with Maus is that the son uses profanity to express his anger and grief over his mother committing suicide and his father burning his mother’s journals after her death? That kind of effort to control and suppress a kid’s emotions typically doesn’t work out very well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I always appreciate book stores with banned books sections

Agreed!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is yet another way that schools are making it an us (parents) versus them (adults in schools) mentality. Perpetuating the notion our kids, while at school, are independent and unaccountable to their parents is troubling. Or, at the worst indefensible, when "teaching" that their parents are morally wrong or "bad" because parents beliefs are counter to what is being normalized at school. I do not want to dictate what schools teach my kids, I just want schools to reiterate to our children that parents have the biggest stake in their lives. And, no matter what, their parents and what their parents provide, encourage, and instill in kids are the biggest indicators of success - not replaceable by anything a school can, nor should, do for children. Parenting is hard enough these days without having to fight and counter what adults, who are not in any way (legally, financially, emotionally) responsible for our children, are "teaching."

https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/educations-enduring-love-affair-luxury-beliefs

Don't worry, your kids will most likely end up racist bigots like their parents no matter how hard schools try to change that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Joe Rogan has published a couple books. Were the librarians displaying those in the same section? How would that make OP feel?

While his books do fall under the category of “stuff some adults don’t want you to read” they probably aren’t in the library.

The librarians have literary standards.

So… they’re banned? Because I read Animorphs as a kid. The bar for literary quality is low.

Not “banned”. Just crap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is yet another way that schools are making it an us (parents) versus them (adults in schools) mentality. Perpetuating the notion our kids, while at school, are independent and unaccountable to their parents is troubling. Or, at the worst indefensible, when "teaching" that their parents are morally wrong or "bad" because parents beliefs are counter to what is being normalized at school. I do not want to dictate what schools teach my kids, I just want schools to reiterate to our children that parents have the biggest stake in their lives. And, no matter what, their parents and what their parents provide, encourage, and instill in kids are the biggest indicators of success - not replaceable by anything a school can, nor should, do for children. Parenting is hard enough these days without having to fight and counter what adults, who are not in any way (legally, financially, emotionally) responsible for our children, are "teaching."

https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/educations-enduring-love-affair-luxury-beliefs

Don't worry, your kids will most likely end up racist bigots like their parents no matter how hard schools try to change that.

Thank you for proving the point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine parents complaining about that at almost any other public FCPS high school.

I think we just have a handful of troublemaker parents who love to get national attention on these things. It’s not the first time they’ve overreacted.

+1

Brava! THIS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is yet another way that schools are making it an us (parents) versus them (adults in schools) mentality. Perpetuating the notion our kids, while at school, are independent and unaccountable to their parents is troubling. Or, at the worst indefensible, when "teaching" that their parents are morally wrong or "bad" because parents beliefs are counter to what is being normalized at school. I do not want to dictate what schools teach my kids, I just want schools to reiterate to our children that parents have the biggest stake in their lives. And, no matter what, their parents and what their parents provide, encourage, and instill in kids are the biggest indicators of success - not replaceable by anything a school can, nor should, do for children. Parenting is hard enough these days without having to fight and counter what adults, who are not in any way (legally, financially, emotionally) responsible for our children, are "teaching."

https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/educations-enduring-love-affair-luxury-beliefs

What values are you trying to instill in your kids that conflict with them reading Maus?

Not the PP you’re quoting but give the reasons Maus was removed from school, I suppose I sorta am. https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-696465/amp

So your big problem with Maus is that the son uses profanity to express his anger and grief over his mother committing suicide and his father burning his mother’s journals after her death? That kind of effort to control and suppress a kid’s emotions typically doesn’t work out very well.

I don’t have a “big problem” with Maus. I would let my kids read it, absolutely. But does it reflect the “values” I would want to teach my kids? Not really. It’s a story of big ugly generational trauma and conflict.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine parents complaining about that at almost any other public FCPS high school.

I think we just have a handful of troublemaker parents who love to get national attention on these things. It’s not the first time they’ve overreacted.

+1

Brava! THIS!

Yes, they are trying to land their next interview on FoxNews.

Disgusting self promotion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was clever and accurate but Republicans are in a constant state of outrage and anger and really want to limit information and education.

Accurate how? All the left wing outrage I have seen about this pretends it’s because the Tennessee school board was racist or anti-Semitic. Which is a lie.

It is accurate in that the books on display have attempted to have been censored by adults. Therefore “stuff adults don’t want you to read” is factually correct.

While that’s true, it does seem to be amplifying a lie. From my perspective.

The Tennessee school board banned Maus. That makes them anti-Semitic whether you acknowledge it or not

Nope. You are wrong and ignorant about the issue. https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-696465/amp

Why do you keep citing that article - as if it supports your anti-Maus stance? It doesn’t. It’s like me saying “science says masks don’t work. Read this: https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abg6296 “

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is yet another way that schools are making it an us (parents) versus them (adults in schools) mentality. Perpetuating the notion our kids, while at school, are independent and unaccountable to their parents is troubling. Or, at the worst indefensible, when "teaching" that their parents are morally wrong or "bad" because parents beliefs are counter to what is being normalized at school. I do not want to dictate what schools teach my kids, I just want schools to reiterate to our children that parents have the biggest stake in their lives. And, no matter what, their parents and what their parents provide, encourage, and instill in kids are the biggest indicators of success - not replaceable by anything a school can, nor should, do for children. Parenting is hard enough these days without having to fight and counter what adults, who are not in any way (legally, financially, emotionally) responsible for our children, are "teaching."

https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/educations-enduring-love-affair-luxury-beliefs

What values are you trying to instill in your kids that conflict with them reading Maus?

Not the PP you’re quoting but give the reasons Maus was removed from school, I suppose I sorta am. https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-696465/amp

So your big problem with Maus is that the son uses profanity to express his anger and grief over his mother committing suicide and his father burning his mother’s journals after her death? That kind of effort to control and suppress a kid’s emotions typically doesn’t work out very well.

I don’t have a “big problem” with Maus. I would let my kids read it, absolutely. But does it reflect the “values” I would want to teach my kids? Not really. It’s a story of big ugly generational trauma and conflict.

Unless they are banning the Bible as well, those criticisms hold for that book as well

[Anonymous]

I didn't see the Bible on display. That is full of sinful (yet redemptive!) stories.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t imagine parents complaining about that at almost any other public FCPS high school.

I think we just have a handful of troublemaker parents who love to get national attention on these things. It’s not the first time they’ve overreacted.

+1

Brava! THIS!

I suspect a few parents have a direct line to producers at Fox and take advantage of the chance to stir the pot and fuel their national agenda. I feel sorry for our principal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is yet another way that schools are making it an us (parents) versus them (adults in schools) mentality. Perpetuating the notion our kids, while at school, are independent and unaccountable to their parents is troubling. Or, at the worst indefensible, when "teaching" that their parents are morally wrong or "bad" because parents beliefs are counter to what is being normalized at school. I do not want to dictate what schools teach my kids, I just want schools to reiterate to our children that parents have the biggest stake in their lives. And, no matter what, their parents and what their parents provide, encourage, and instill in kids are the biggest indicators of success - not replaceable by anything a school can, nor should, do for children. Parenting is hard enough these days without having to fight and counter what adults, who are not in any way (legally, financially, emotionally) responsible for our children, are "teaching."

https://fordhaminstitute.org/national/commentary/educations-enduring-love-affair-luxury-beliefs

What values are you trying to instill in your kids that conflict with them reading Maus?

Not the PP you’re quoting but give the reasons Maus was removed from school, I suppose I sorta am. https://m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/article-696465/amp

So your big problem with Maus is that the son uses profanity to express his anger and grief over his mother committing suicide and his father burning his mother’s journals after her death? That kind of effort to control and suppress a kid’s emotions typically doesn’t work out very well.

I don’t have a “big problem” with Maus. I would let my kids read it, absolutely. But does it reflect the “values” I would want to teach my kids? Not really. It’s a story of big ugly generational trauma and conflict.

It’s also very much about family relationships, intergenerational empathy, and love. I am baffled as to how you can’t see the signs of great affection and tenderness in the books.