Youngkin and his AG come out in favor of overturning Roe v Wade

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Anonymous wrote:You get what you vote for, Virginia. Bunch of idiots.

This. Youngkin is going to kill all of the political progress made in Virginia that made businesses want to locate there and people want to live there.

+1, from a Virginian. None of this is surprising from Youngkin, but the people who voted for him will try to pretend that being mad about schools somehow excuses their vote.

Yup. This is 100% on them. Youngkin admitted before the election that he was going to push anti-choice.

Next time rein in your SJWs if you want my vote. Calling me an idiot does not make me feel welcome either. Also recognize that your top issue may not be my top issue. Your doomsday scenario with Youngkin is laughable. Larry Hogan next door runs a deep blue state.

Instead of scaremongering and shaming, do an introspection and come back and earn my vote.

So you are happy to align with an authoritarian government that wants to force birth than a handful of left wing nutjobs?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't know if this type of extremism will scare off businesses in the short run - they might bank on sanity being restored in the next election. However, I, as a neighbor in DC, won't be visiting or spending a dime in Virginia as long as Youngkin is in charge.

+1

I won't be crossing the bridges other than to get to airports.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a thought: democrats should stop putting up crappy candidates. There were much better options than McAullife, including two experienced AA women. So much for equity, diversity and inclusion. The Dems put up an old, rich, white guy. GMAB.

So spread that blame around. Democrats, do better.

Fair enough. Dems need to choose candidates that can win. Period. That process worked in the presidential race and the nominee that was chosen was chosen almost exclusively because he could get the votes he needed where he needed them. Local races need a similar strategy.

Mid terms are coming and Dems need to vote in large numbers or we will continue to regress.

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a thought: democrats should stop putting up crappy candidates. There were much better options than McAullife, including two experienced AA women. So much for equity, diversity and inclusion. The Dems put up an old, rich, white guy. GMAB.

So spread that blame around. Democrats, do better.

Yes, but they were all better than Youngkin.

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Anonymous wrote:So you are pro-choice and pro-gun control and voted for a republican who favors open gun ownership including assault weapons, and wants restrictions on abortion to the point that women are being forced to carry a fetus to term.

Well done.

+1. If you vote in favor of government forcing women to be incubators for unwanted and non-viable children and the country being awash in guns so that our kids get gunned down in school at stratospherically higher rates than in virtually every other country, then you do support those policies. Your *feelings* about them are irrelevant. You have *acted* in favor of them.

I am done talking. If you want to prevail then you have to LISTEN. It’s communications 101. And not just to your echo chamber.

And you cannot shame people into agreeing with you. Also communications 101.

Extremists on either side control the narrative but we in the middle control who is in charge. Let that sink in. And step off your self-righteous pedestal and acknowledge our power. And what you have to do to earn our support. Ranting does not help.

Extremists on the left want voting for all who can do so legally, want universal healthcare and want to make it so mentally ill people cannot posess guns legally. Extremists on the right want an authoritarian ethno-Christian white nationalist country.

The two are not the same.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you are pro-choice and pro-gun control and voted for a republican who favors open gun ownership including assault weapons, and wants restrictions on abortion to the point that women are being forced to carry a fetus to term.

Well done.

+1. If you vote in favor of government forcing women to be incubators for unwanted and non-viable children and the country being awash in guns so that our kids get gunned down in school at stratospherically higher rates than in virtually every other country, then you do support those policies. Your *feelings* about them are irrelevant. You have *acted* in favor of them.

I am done talking. If you want to prevail then you have to LISTEN. It’s communications 101. And not just to your echo chamber.

And you cannot shame people into agreeing with you. Also communications 101.

Extremists on either side control the narrative but we in the middle control who is in charge. Let that sink in. And step off your self-righteous pedestal and acknowledge our power. And what you have to do to earn our support. Ranting does not help.

What makes you think you are "in the middle"? Simply believing that you are? Extremists typically don't regard themselves as such.

Because I exercise a considered choice election. I don’t just bleat in unison with rest of the flock.

You will be bleating when you have to drive your daughter to DC or MD to get a legal abortion.

[Anonymous]

What did voters think would happen?
No women's health care or abortions and lots and lots and lots of guns.

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Anonymous wrote:So you are pro-choice and pro-gun control and voted for a republican who favors open gun ownership including assault weapons, and wants restrictions on abortion to the point that women are being forced to carry a fetus to term.

Well done.

+1. If you vote in favor of government forcing women to be incubators for unwanted and non-viable children and the country being awash in guns so that our kids get gunned down in school at stratospherically higher rates than in virtually every other country, then you do support those policies. Your *feelings* about them are irrelevant. You have *acted* in favor of them.

I am done talking. If you want to prevail then you have to LISTEN. It’s communications 101. And not just to your echo chamber.

And you cannot shame people into agreeing with you. Also communications 101.

Extremists on either side control the narrative but we in the middle control who is in charge. Let that sink in. And step off your self-righteous pedestal and acknowledge our power. And what you have to do to earn our support. Ranting does not help.

What makes you think you are "in the middle"? Simply believing that you are? Extremists typically don't regard themselves as such.

Because I exercise a considered choice election. I don’t just bleat in unison with rest of the flock.

Why do you believe it is others' responsibility to listen but not yours? You are not remotely "in the middle" based on your statements here, you are not interested in having a conversation about policy, and you are not open to others' viewpoints - you simply want to view yourself as a victim of whatever issue de jour you've decided represents Democrats wronging you.

I don’t see myself as a victim at all. No idea why you see it that way. I felt wronged and I exercised my vote as a consequence. There are no victims in a functioning democracy. Trump should accept it when the voters have spoken. So should you. Instead of castigating those that voted for Youngkin, focus your energies on getting the independents back in the tent. This thread is proof that you are not there yet. And perhaps never will be.

Far more Americans vote for Democrats than Republicans. This means that Democrats do represent the center. Again, your feelings about this are irrelevant. Facts are facts.

I don’t care about the relevance of my feelings. My vote is relevant and it was relevant in the last election.

“Facts are facts” - care to cite a source for “ This means that Democrats do represent the center.”?

Meanwhile read this - https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2014/06/12/political-polarization-in-the-american-public/

DP. Your feelings sure seem relevant if you are voting out of spite.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you are pro-choice and pro-gun control and voted for a republican who favors open gun ownership including assault weapons, and wants restrictions on abortion to the point that women are being forced to carry a fetus to term.

Well done.

+1. If you vote in favor of government forcing women to be incubators for unwanted and non-viable children and the country being awash in guns so that our kids get gunned down in school at stratospherically higher rates than in virtually every other country, then you do support those policies. Your *feelings* about them are irrelevant. You have *acted* in favor of them.

I am done talking. If you want to prevail then you have to LISTEN. It’s communications 101. And not just to your echo chamber.

And you cannot shame people into agreeing with you. Also communications 101.

Extremists on either side control the narrative but we in the middle control who is in charge. Let that sink in. And step off your self-righteous pedestal and acknowledge our power. And what you have to do to earn our support. Ranting does not help.

Extremists on the left want voting for all who can do so legally, want universal healthcare and want to make it so mentally ill people cannot posess guns legally. Extremists on the right want an authoritarian ethno-Christian white nationalist country.

The two are not the same.

I will give you that.

But Youngkin is not Desantis. He could be Hogan. And I will take a Hogan any day over Bernie/AOC an their ilk.

All this angst about Youngkin threatening abortion rights is much ado about nothing. Youngkin/Miyares are making the right noises to please their base on the right.

And yes Canada is still awaiting all those who had said they would move when Trump got elected. All those emigrating from Virginia can cut a deal with them Canadians. Au Revoir!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here’s a thought: democrats should stop putting up crappy candidates. There were much better options than McAullife, including two experienced AA women. So much for equity, diversity and inclusion. The Dems put up an old, rich, white guy. GMAB.

So spread that blame around. Democrats, do better.

Fair enough. Dems need to choose candidates that can win. Period. That process worked in the presidential race and the nominee that was chosen was chosen almost exclusively because he could get the votes he needed where he needed them. Local races need a similar strategy.

Politico has a great short podcast on how the Youngkin campaign actively chose to not use the national playbook and how McAullife did and why it made such a difference. It’s super interesting IMO. They talk to both parties. Democrats really should listen to it even more.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you are pro-choice and pro-gun control and voted for a republican who favors open gun ownership including assault weapons, and wants restrictions on abortion to the point that women are being forced to carry a fetus to term.

Well done.

+1. If you vote in favor of government forcing women to be incubators for unwanted and non-viable children and the country being awash in guns so that our kids get gunned down in school at stratospherically higher rates than in virtually every other country, then you do support those policies. Your *feelings* about them are irrelevant. You have *acted* in favor of them.

I am done talking. If you want to prevail then you have to LISTEN. It’s communications 101. And not just to your echo chamber.

And you cannot shame people into agreeing with you. Also communications 101.

Extremists on either side control the narrative but we in the middle control who is in charge. Let that sink in. And step off your self-righteous pedestal and acknowledge our power. And what you have to do to earn our support. Ranting does not help.

Extremists on the left want voting for all who can do so legally, want universal healthcare and want to make it so mentally ill people cannot posess guns legally. Extremists on the right want an authoritarian ethno-Christian white nationalist country.

The two are not the same.

I will give you that.

But Youngkin is not Desantis. He could be Hogan. And I will take a Hogan any day over Bernie/AOC an their ilk.

All this angst about Youngkin threatening abortion rights is much ado about nothing. Youngkin/Miyares are making the right noises to please their base on the right.

And yes Canada is still awaiting all those who had said they would move when Trump got elected. All those emigrating from Virginia can cut a deal with them Canadians. Au Revoir!

LOL youngkin is not Desantis. Youngkin is Ted cruz. He will do anything Fox News tells him to do. He surrounds himself with radical white nationalist and religious zealots. I would take AOC over Hogan any day. At least she is not a republicans set on overthrowing the government. Now he is f%#king around with people kids and forcing everyone to live under religious edicts. This might work in West Virginia or Texas but not in a blue state. He is done.

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I'm so sad, and I don't even care if the jerks here rip into me. I grew up in Virginia. I left for college and graduate school and then returned. I thought we'd made such progress. I remember growing up here when racism was totally accepted. My high school played Dixie at pep rallies. Gay people were regularly mocked. When my child was little, my next door neighbors handed out papers encouraging us to vote against gay marriage with their Halloween candy. I'm not even a really progressive Democrat. If the Republican party would stop being the party of evangelical Christians, I might have considered voting Republican--well, before Trump and that insanity.

One week in and already all of this. I wasn't crazy about McAuliffe. I felt like people identify him with the Clintons, and we all know how that goes. But I admit I was complacent. I thought Virginia was pretty solidly blue--centrist blue--but blue. I voted for him, but I didn't work to try to get the vote out like I had since Trump was elected.

When Youngkin won, I was obviously disappointed, but I really hoped he would be moderate. Maryland is blue and Democrats seem to like Larry Hogan. I think? But one week in and THIS. All of this already. Just why? I mean, I know why. Because politics is just a game to these people. It's just about power. But Virginia is a moderate state. Just be moderate.

It's so disappointing. And after so many years of Trump and knowing the Democrats are probably going to lose next year and seeing what the Supreme Court is like now, it just makes me want to give up. I don't have any fight left. And you know what? My family has money. I could get to a state with legal abortions. Lower taxes help me. I vote against my economic interests because the Republican party literally seems evil. Democrats may be incompetent, but they aren't evil.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you are pro-choice and pro-gun control and voted for a republican who favors open gun ownership including assault weapons, and wants restrictions on abortion to the point that women are being forced to carry a fetus to term.

Well done.

+1. If you vote in favor of government forcing women to be incubators for unwanted and non-viable children and the country being awash in guns so that our kids get gunned down in school at stratospherically higher rates than in virtually every other country, then you do support those policies. Your *feelings* about them are irrelevant. You have *acted* in favor of them.

I am done talking. If you want to prevail then you have to LISTEN. It’s communications 101. And not just to your echo chamber.

And you cannot shame people into agreeing with you. Also communications 101.

Extremists on either side control the narrative but we in the middle control who is in charge. Let that sink in. And step off your self-righteous pedestal and acknowledge our power. And what you have to do to earn our support. Ranting does not help.

What makes you think you are "in the middle"? Simply believing that you are? Extremists typically don't regard themselves as such.

Because I exercise a considered choice election. I don’t just bleat in unison with rest of the flock.

You will be bleating when you have to drive your daughter to DC or MD to get a legal abortion.

You must be such a dedicated soldier to your cause if you treat your signature issue with such callousness.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you are pro-choice and pro-gun control and voted for a republican who favors open gun ownership including assault weapons, and wants restrictions on abortion to the point that women are being forced to carry a fetus to term.

Well done.

+1. If you vote in favor of government forcing women to be incubators for unwanted and non-viable children and the country being awash in guns so that our kids get gunned down in school at stratospherically higher rates than in virtually every other country, then you do support those policies. Your *feelings* about them are irrelevant. You have *acted* in favor of them.

I am done talking. If you want to prevail then you have to LISTEN. It’s communications 101. And not just to your echo chamber.

And you cannot shame people into agreeing with you. Also communications 101.

Extremists on either side control the narrative but we in the middle control who is in charge. Let that sink in. And step off your self-righteous pedestal and acknowledge our power. And what you have to do to earn our support. Ranting does not help.

What makes you think you are "in the middle"? Simply believing that you are? Extremists typically don't regard themselves as such.

Because I exercise a considered choice election. I don’t just bleat in unison with rest of the flock.

You will be bleating when you have to drive your daughter to DC or MD to get a legal abortion.

You must be such a dedicated soldier to your cause if you treat your signature issue with such callousness.

Please. What about the thousands of daughters, mother's, sisters, aunts, grannies, etc. that are now as good as criminals.

States need to get reprodutive rights laws on the books or everyone will soon be surrounded by " murderers".

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You get what you vote for, Virginia. Bunch of idiots.

This. Youngkin is going to kill all of the political progress made in Virginia that made businesses want to locate there and people want to live there.

+1, from a Virginian. None of this is surprising from Youngkin, but the people who voted for him will try to pretend that being mad about schools somehow excuses their vote.

Yup. This is 100% on them. Youngkin admitted before the election that he was going to push anti-choice.

Next time rein in your SJWs if you want my vote. Calling me an idiot does not make me feel welcome either. Also recognize that your top issue may not be my top issue. Your doomsday scenario with Youngkin is laughable. Larry Hogan next door runs a deep blue state.

Instead of scaremongering and shaming, do an introspection and come back and earn my vote.

“Earn your vote”? You really need anonymous posters to convince you?

Most adults are capable of evaluating candidates on their own. Weird that you rely on strangers to form your opinion.

Anyway, if you voted for Youngkin you voted for everything that comes with him. Including misogyny. That’s on you.

Your bravado is fueled by your own anonymity. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

The Democrats treated me and my issues as roadkill when they raced through with their one shot agenda. There was no space for anyone who saw it differently from the extreme left wingers that have hijacked policy making in the party. But with supercilious boosters like you trying to shame me for my vote, my one-off vote may not be one-off. Yes, my vote is earned by whoever gets it. And I hope yours is earned as well. Or else our democracy is in trouble.

No one filled out your ballot but you. Stop blaming others for your actions.

Own it.

Where do you see me apologizing for my ballot. I am proud of my vote and the outcome. And despite the fear-monger it I don’t worry that all hell will break loose with Youngkin. I am pro-choice and favor gun control but the Democratic Party is not listening. Enough said.

You are NOT pro choice or in favor of gun control. You sacrificed both of these so you could, what, be sure your kid doesn’t allegedly play privileged bingo. Own your fing choice.