Things public schools no longer teach and why?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s always amusing when people post nostalgia for they way they were taught, as if those archaic methods were superior.

Always amusing when we, as a country, are not doing our best to educate our children. https://theamericanscholar.org/why-so-many-kids-struggle-to-learn/

Let’s follow the science, shall we? And not some nostalgic way of teaching teachers.

Yup. We should model our educational strategies after those in countries that are outperforming our system. Finland is a good one to copy.

They are probably outperforming us because they don't expect schools to solve social ills. Do they have a lot of childhood poverty in Finland? I doubt it.

Exactly. Progressives like to drone on about the school to prison pipeline which doesn't exist. It's a crappy home life or crappy neighborhood or even crappy culture to prison pipeline. In typical form, progressives expect the state to solve these problems when it's impossible and then blame the state for failing. They then lobby to change the system that works quite well for the kids who are willing to put in the effort to benefit the kids who are just there to cause trouble. It's a race to the bottom.

Finland's government programs *have* helped with these problems.

Finland’s “problems” are a drop in the bucket compared to ours.

We have a significant percentage of our population who honestly thinks that the rest of us OWE them. That entitlement is the problem with our country. And more social programs only creates more entitlement.

Finland just doesn’t have that large scale entitlement. People in Finland think that raising their kids is their own responsibility. We should start there.

Finland's government literally gives its people entitlements. Their form of government creates a population that is more community minded and responsible. We can't have that kind of society because of people like you.

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Anonymous wrote:I came to the US as an adult, so my experience is limited to my personal observation. Is that true that public schools (nationwide and specifically in Nova area) really no longer teach handwriting, grammar, sentence diagraming and logic? If so, why?

Anything else today's PS dropped compared to those in the 80's?

Yes this is unfortunately true.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s always amusing when people post nostalgia for they way they were taught, as if those archaic methods were superior.

Always amusing when we, as a country, are not doing our best to educate our children. https://theamericanscholar.org/why-so-many-kids-struggle-to-learn/

Let’s follow the science, shall we? And not some nostalgic way of teaching teachers.

Yup. We should model our educational strategies after those in countries that are outperforming our system. Finland is a good one to copy.

They are probably outperforming us because they don't expect schools to solve social ills. Do they have a lot of childhood poverty in Finland? I doubt it.

Exactly. Progressives like to drone on about the school to prison pipeline which doesn't exist. It's a crappy home life or crappy neighborhood or even crappy culture to prison pipeline. In typical form, progressives expect the state to solve these problems when it's impossible and then blame the state for failing. They then lobby to change the system that works quite well for the kids who are willing to put in the effort to benefit the kids who are just there to cause trouble. It's a race to the bottom.

Finland's government programs *have* helped with these problems.

Finland’s “problems” are a drop in the bucket compared to ours.

We have a significant percentage of our population who honestly thinks that the rest of us OWE them. That entitlement is the problem with our country. And more social programs only creates more entitlement.

Finland just doesn’t have that large scale entitlement. People in Finland think that raising their kids is their own responsibility. We should start there.

Finland's government literally gives its people entitlements. Their form of government creates a population that is more community minded and responsible. We can't have that kind of society because of people like you.

Finland has a strong national identity and almost no immigration. So everyone is rowing at roughly the same speed and in the same direction. The US is far too diverse and has a massive illegal immigration problem which prohibits the kind of success that Finland has if we were to implement similar policies. But nice try.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s always amusing when people post nostalgia for they way they were taught, as if those archaic methods were superior.

Always amusing when we, as a country, are not doing our best to educate our children. https://theamericanscholar.org/why-so-many-kids-struggle-to-learn/

Let’s follow the science, shall we? And not some nostalgic way of teaching teachers.

Yup. We should model our educational strategies after those in countries that are outperforming our system. Finland is a good one to copy.

They are probably outperforming us because they don't expect schools to solve social ills. Do they have a lot of childhood poverty in Finland? I doubt it.

Exactly. Progressives like to drone on about the school to prison pipeline which doesn't exist. It's a crappy home life or crappy neighborhood or even crappy culture to prison pipeline. In typical form, progressives expect the state to solve these problems when it's impossible and then blame the state for failing. They then lobby to change the system that works quite well for the kids who are willing to put in the effort to benefit the kids who are just there to cause trouble. It's a race to the bottom.

Finland's government programs *have* helped with these problems.

Finland’s “problems” are a drop in the bucket compared to ours.

We have a significant percentage of our population who honestly thinks that the rest of us OWE them. That entitlement is the problem with our country. And more social programs only creates more entitlement.

Finland just doesn’t have that large scale entitlement. People in Finland think that raising their kids is their own responsibility. We should start there.

Finland's government literally gives its people entitlements. Their form of government creates a population that is more community minded and responsible. We can't have that kind of society because of people like you.

Finland has a strong national identity and almost no immigration. So everyone is rowing at roughly the same speed and in the same direction. The US is far too diverse and has a massive illegal immigration problem which prohibits the kind of success that Finland has if we were to implement similar policies. But nice try.

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We can’t have nice things because we basically have open borders, and even some people who have been here for generations are happy to take and never give back to their country. Finland has a much stronger culture with higher expectations.

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Responsibility and executive function aren't taught.

Kids aren't expected to keep track of their assignments. Instead teachers are expected to send out remind texts, emails, phone calls home. Teachers are also expected to give 50-60% and to not fail kids unless they have done a ridiculous amount of documentation.

Don't even get me started on PBIS. Doesn't work and creates chaos.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s always amusing when people post nostalgia for they way they were taught, as if those archaic methods were superior.

Always amusing when we, as a country, are not doing our best to educate our children. https://theamericanscholar.org/why-so-many-kids-struggle-to-learn/

Let’s follow the science, shall we? And not some nostalgic way of teaching teachers.

Yup. We should model our educational strategies after those in countries that are outperforming our system. Finland is a good one to copy.

They are probably outperforming us because they don't expect schools to solve social ills. Do they have a lot of childhood poverty in Finland? I doubt it.

Exactly. Progressives like to drone on about the school to prison pipeline which doesn't exist. It's a crappy home life or crappy neighborhood or even crappy culture to prison pipeline. In typical form, progressives expect the state to solve these problems when it's impossible and then blame the state for failing. They then lobby to change the system that works quite well for the kids who are willing to put in the effort to benefit the kids who are just there to cause trouble. It's a race to the bottom.

Finland's government programs *have* helped with these problems.

Finland’s “problems” are a drop in the bucket compared to ours.

We have a significant percentage of our population who honestly thinks that the rest of us OWE them. That entitlement is the problem with our country. And more social programs only creates more entitlement.

Finland just doesn’t have that large scale entitlement. People in Finland think that raising their kids is their own responsibility. We should start there.

This is the dumbest thing said on DCUM this week - are you drinking?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Responsibility and executive function aren't taught.

Kids aren't expected to keep track of their assignments. Instead teachers are expected to send out remind texts, emails, phone calls home. Teachers are also expected to give 50-60% and to not fail kids unless they have done a ridiculous amount of documentation.

Don't even get me started on PBIS. Doesn't work and creates chaos.

Exactly. Instead they teach critical victimology theory.

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Anonymous wrote:Responsibility and executive function aren't taught.

Kids aren't expected to keep track of their assignments. Instead teachers are expected to send out remind texts, emails, phone calls home. Teachers are also expected to give 50-60% and to not fail kids unless they have done a ridiculous amount of documentation.

Don't even get me started on PBIS. Doesn't work and creates chaos.

Exactly. Instead they teach critical victimology theory.

Kids these days and their rock n' roll music.

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Home Ec. Or as kids would call it these days, "adulting"

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I wish schools taught more life skills. Cooking/meal planning/nutrition, financial planning/investing, negotiation, first aid, swimming, etc.

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I don't know anyone whose kids learned how to take a square root by hand (it's a method kind of like long division but a little more complicated) in a public or private school. I didn't learn it there either. But I think lots of people are taught it in after school math clubs or learn it from the internet just out of curiosity. My parents and grandparents had to do it in school.