New York times op ed on maintaining black spaces

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like Black Fragility.


The author readily admits that, and for good reason.

As the couple wandered on, no books in hand, I thought about how fragile my feeling of being settled is. It didn’t matter that I own my house, as many of my neighbors do. Generations of racism, Jim Crow, disinvestment and redlining have meant that we don’t really control our own spaces


It seems like there is socially acceptable racism some people are just supposed to tolerate these days without question.

Whether it’s the Mayor of Chicago refusing to meet with white reporters, or the firing of all the docents at the Chicago art museum, or this article, or even new outlets choosing to capitalize Black but not white. There is this strange push, out of “equity”, that allows for discrimination. And then when concerns are, or objective reasoning is asked to be employed, there are claims of white fragility. And simply shutting down the conversation.


Oh, you want to talk about socially acceptable racism? How about republican congress members making racit remarks about Ilhan Omar, and being allowed to keep their committee seats, and being promised better ones in the future? Racism doean't get more socially acceptable than that. And it causes you no concern.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Can you link it?


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/opinion/gentrification-los-angeles-little-library.html


Aaaaaaand this is why people will be voting Republican in November. This myopic singular focus on identity politics. This is just utter, navel-gazing, polarizing click bait tripe that further Balkanizes an already polarized United States. At worst the author is a clueless naive bigot and at worst a racist. Oops I forgot in this day and age she can’t be racist.


Sure because the Republicans NEVER peddle in identity politics? I guess when you only focus on white people it's not identity politics, it's just 'Merica?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like Black Fragility.


The author readily admits that, and for good reason.

As the couple wandered on, no books in hand, I thought about how fragile my feeling of being settled is. It didn’t matter that I own my house, as many of my neighbors do. Generations of racism, Jim Crow, disinvestment and redlining have meant that we don’t really control our own spaces


It seems like there is socially acceptable racism some people are just supposed to tolerate these days without question.

Whether it’s the Mayor of Chicago refusing to meet with white reporters, or the firing of all the docents at the Chicago art museum, or this article, or even new outlets choosing to capitalize Black but not white. There is this strange push, out of “equity”, that allows for discrimination. And then when concerns are, or objective reasoning is asked to be employed, there are claims of white fragility. And simply shutting down the conversation.


Oh, you want to talk about socially acceptable racism? How about republican congress members making racit remarks about Ilhan Omar, and being allowed to keep their committee seats, and being promised better ones in the future? Racism doean't get more socially acceptable than that. And it causes you no concern.


Yeah, that’s bad.

So is vilifying white people and wishing for defacto segregation like the author of this article.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like Black Fragility.


The author readily admits that, and for good reason.

As the couple wandered on, no books in hand, I thought about how fragile my feeling of being settled is. It didn’t matter that I own my house, as many of my neighbors do. Generations of racism, Jim Crow, disinvestment and redlining have meant that we don’t really control our own spaces


It seems like there is socially acceptable racism some people are just supposed to tolerate these days without question.

Whether it’s the Mayor of Chicago refusing to meet with white reporters, or the firing of all the docents at the Chicago art museum, or this article, or even new outlets choosing to capitalize Black but not white. There is this strange push, out of “equity”, that allows for discrimination. And then when concerns are, or objective reasoning is asked to be employed, there are claims of white fragility. And simply shutting down the conversation.


Oh, you want to talk about socially acceptable racism? How about republican congress members making racit remarks about Ilhan Omar, and being allowed to keep their committee seats, and being promised better ones in the future? Racism doean't get more socially acceptable than that. And it causes you no concern.

This.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:That op ed viewpoint is a fringe viewpoint in today’s climate.

That was given a megaphone.
And of course it’s going to be cherry picked to death by Fox News
And the Daily Caller and every other RWNJ website and news outlet.
These isn’t an interesting thought exercise.
Its unhelpful.
We have to find a place to unite in the middle.
This kind of stuff isn’t going to get us there.


The op-ed actually was a middle ground. It sounds like you're the one who needs to "get there". Sorry, but you're not entitled to dictate how black people identify themselves.


FoxNews won’t be be printing the full article. Half the country will read the choice excerpts on Facebook and become appropriately enraged.
Shame on the NYT’s.


Shame on the NYT for what? Is the topic not allowed to be discussed? Is FoxNews incapable of displaying a balanced summary?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand OP why it bothers you to hear opinions that you disagree with or makes you sad. The author is entitled to express her opinion and feelings just like Tom Cotton or the many other voices we hear in media.

The only person who should take this personally are the white people the author discuss. How often are Black people confronted with bad feelings from whites?


Clearly, the issue here is that the author of the article is a flaming racist and is proudly so, and is given a platform to celebrate racist behavior by the NYT.
Anonymous
Utter insanity. This is what Democrats produce - people who think they live in a state of permanent victim hood because of whatever identity they have. And let me tell you, according to democrats, there are a loooot of identities out there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That op ed viewpoint is a fringe viewpoint in today’s climate.

That was given a megaphone.
And of course it’s going to be cherry picked to death by Fox News
And the Daily Caller and every other RWNJ website and news outlet.
These isn’t an interesting thought exercise.
Its unhelpful.
We have to find a place to unite in the middle.
This kind of stuff isn’t going to get us there.


Why do black people always have to be the ones to meet in the middle? Why do we always have to be the ones to forgive? Why do we always have to forgive and be told 2 wrongs don't make a right when white people are affected? Why does the entire burden fall on us to bring our nation together? We weren't the sinners but are expected to be the solution?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Rather than considering the entire op-ed, y'all are cherry picking certain passages that trigger your fear cortex.


Rather than considering the whole article you are happily green lighting woke racism.



Please define woke racism?


Essentially, studying past racial sins from white people against POC to justify the use of modern days use of racism (or I guess bigotry if poc can’t be racist) from POC to white people.

This article is strange because the author was married to a white guy, but there are so many layers to this whole thing.



The article at its core is about gentrification. Black people were long prohibited from buying into certain neighborhoods. Black people had a much, much harder time getting mortgages. Now after going through all that many Black people are getting pushed out of their homes. This whole scenario is grounded in racism. Do you not see the problem? It has nothing to do with woke.


This. And, sadly, when it was black people, the government does nothing to make it a nice space. Once white people come along, everything gets updated - even when income is the same.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like Black Fragility.


The author readily admits that, and for good reason.

As the couple wandered on, no books in hand, I thought about how fragile my feeling of being settled is. It didn’t matter that I own my house, as many of my neighbors do. Generations of racism, Jim Crow, disinvestment and redlining have meant that we don’t really control our own spaces


The author desires a neighborhood where they get to decide who has access? We have those. It's called gated communities. Move there.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you link it?


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/opinion/gentrification-los-angeles-little-library.html


Aaaaaaand this is why people will be voting Republican in November. This myopic singular focus on identity politics. This is just utter, navel-gazing, polarizing click bait tripe that further Balkanizes an already polarized United States. At worst the author is a clueless naive bigot and at worst a racist. Oops I forgot in this day and age she can’t be racist.



Yup. NYT has gone so far down the tubes that they now publish racist diatribe like this trash. NYT should be completely ashamed of themselves for giving a virulent racist like the author a soapbox to stand on.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Rather than considering the entire op-ed, y'all are cherry picking certain passages that trigger your fear cortex.


Rather than considering the whole article you are happily green lighting woke racism.



Please define woke racism?


Essentially, studying past racial sins from white people against POC to justify the use of modern days use of racism (or I guess bigotry if poc can’t be racist) from POC to white people.

This article is strange because the author was married to a white guy, but there are so many layers to this whole thing.



The article at its core is about gentrification. Black people were long prohibited from buying into certain neighborhoods. Black people had a much, much harder time getting mortgages. Now after going through all that many Black people are getting pushed out of their homes. This whole scenario is grounded in racism. Do you not see the problem? It has nothing to do with woke.


This. And, sadly, when it was black people, the government does nothing to make it a nice space. Once white people come along, everything gets updated - even when income is the same.


Completely simplistic reasoning that doesn’t scratch the surface, but sure. That’s totally it. Maybe people should also work to counter crime, snitch culture, pickup trash in their neighborhood, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like Black Fragility.


The author readily admits that, and for good reason.

As the couple wandered on, no books in hand, I thought about how fragile my feeling of being settled is. It didn’t matter that I own my house, as many of my neighbors do. Generations of racism, Jim Crow, disinvestment and redlining have meant that we don’t really control our own spaces


The author desires a neighborhood where they get to decide who has access? We have those. It's called gated communities. Move there.


You completely misinterpreted that. Willfully, to fit your racist narrative. It's like you didn't even read it. Is a black woman's perspective not worthy of your consideration?
Anonymous
The author is a completely pathetic attention whore.

She would have been equally offended if the couple had walked her without looking.

"I was so pained that these gentrifiers did not want to participate in my neighborhood outreach"

waaaaaa, waaaaaa, waaaaa
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can you link it?


https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/05/opinion/gentrification-los-angeles-little-library.html


Aaaaaaand this is why people will be voting Republican in November. This myopic singular focus on identity politics. This is just utter, navel-gazing, polarizing click bait tripe that further Balkanizes an already polarized United States. At worst the author is a clueless naive bigot and at worst a racist. Oops I forgot in this day and age she can’t be racist.



Yup. NYT has gone so far down the tubes that they now publish racist diatribe like this trash. NYT should be completely ashamed of themselves for giving a virulent racist like the author a soapbox to stand on.


This is the future. The din of socially acceptable some racism is only rising and balkanizing the country. It sucks. People can’t handle critical reasoning or facing uncomfortable facts and blame everything on everything but accountability.
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