New York times op ed on maintaining black spaces

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Imagine a white person writing an Op-ED in the times complaining that their " white space" was violated by an AA wanting to use it.


Agreed, and for good reason.

Not sure why we can't hold both whites and blacks to the same standards. And by that I mean that an action or statement that is racist when done by a white person to a black person shoiuld be considered to be equally racist if the skin colors were reversed.


We will - after 500 years of whites being enslaved by blacks. Then we'll be even.

Where does this 500 years number come from? Slavery in what was to become the US lasted maybe 250 years, tops. In many parts of the 13 Colonies, it ended even earlier than that.

And it’s not like slavery started in 1619. It was a feature of many human societies from the moment that humans invented societies.
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Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?




Imagine a white Italian American writing the same OP-ed lamenting the fact about Latino people using their library, because Little Italy in Baltimore and many other cities has been transformed pretty much entirely by a huge influx of Hispanic residents.

So let me get this straight - white people move in = racism, because of gentrification. White people move out = racism, because of white flight. White people move into the city, but stick with themselves = racism, because the city is segregated.

So where exactly are people supposed to live? Gentrification can also be GOOD, because many black Americans can start acquiring intergenerational wealth once they are able to cash in on the explosion in real estate prices.


It's white people moving into spaces that became black because there was no where else for these folks to live. Now these same places are desirable so white people want to move in. With that comes housing appreciation (which I understand can be great for some) and a cultural change in the neighborhood. It's not about the white people being racist. It's about culture. I guess she underestimated the ability white people to understand nuance.


Being triggered by seeing some white peoples looking at a little library seems deeply bizarre.


Good grief. It's clearly not about the little libraries.
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Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?


Yeah, those are pretty sweeping generalizations to make of an entire group of people, but sure. White people ruin everything and we should effectively ban gentrification, or at least force people to comply with certain standards of conversation before they can move in to a neighborhood. I also agree with the author that we should segregate those little libraries for only certain people. Congratulations on winning this debate. This all helps the issue of race in America.


You are really pathetic. Those aren't generalizations. What is wrong with pointing out that people have different cultures? I would not move into a Latino neighborhood and not take the time to learn about that neighborhood. That's not racist. Ignoring race will not help America. That's what we've been trying to do and it doesn't work. I actually don't want to leave my race the door. I like being black and the culture that comes with that. My best friend is Mexican. I LOVE hanging out with her family. Good times, but different than mine. Her husband is Korean. Same. Kimchi anyone. I love that.

It would benefit you to stop being so angry and maybe try to get to know your neighbor.


but she did not point that out. She pointed out that both people of color and white people like little libraries. Did you read the article? There was nothing in there about the couple doing anything jarring to black culture.


I actually did read the article and was smart enough to understand the nuance and what was really upsetting to her. If you know the history of Inglewood and what's happening there, you would understand.
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Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?




Imagine a white Italian American writing the same OP-ed lamenting the fact about Latino people using their library, because Little Italy in Baltimore and many other cities has been transformed pretty much entirely by a huge influx of Hispanic residents.

So let me get this straight - white people move in = racism, because of gentrification. White people move out = racism, because of white flight. White people move into the city, but stick with themselves = racism, because the city is segregated.

So where exactly are people supposed to live? Gentrification can also be GOOD, because many black Americans can start acquiring intergenerational wealth once they are able to cash in on the explosion in real estate prices.


It's white people moving into spaces that became black because there was no where else for these folks to live. Now these same places are desirable so white people want to move in. With that comes housing appreciation (which I understand can be great for some) and a cultural change in the neighborhood. It's not about the white people being racist. It's about culture. I guess she underestimated the ability white people to understand nuance.


Being triggered by seeing some white peoples looking at a little library seems deeply bizarre.


Good grief. It's clearly not about the little libraries.


She is writing in the NY Times. That is a world renown publication. The title is "does my little library lead to gentrification?" Why make such an inflammatory title? If she wants to discuss the dangers of gentrification, why use as her focus some poor couple that did not harm? There are so many real stories of gentrification problems she could have chosen. Why lambast some harmless couple who just wanted something to read?
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Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?


Yeah, those are pretty sweeping generalizations to make of an entire group of people, but sure. White people ruin everything and we should effectively ban gentrification, or at least force people to comply with certain standards of conversation before they can move in to a neighborhood. I also agree with the author that we should segregate those little libraries for only certain people. Congratulations on winning this debate. This all helps the issue of race in America.


You are really pathetic. Those aren't generalizations. What is wrong with pointing out that people have different cultures? I would not move into a Latino neighborhood and not take the time to learn about that neighborhood. That's not racist. Ignoring race will not help America. That's what we've been trying to do and it doesn't work. I actually don't want to leave my race the door. I like being black and the culture that comes with that. My best friend is Mexican. I LOVE hanging out with her family. Good times, but different than mine. Her husband is Korean. Same. Kimchi anyone. I love that.

It would benefit you to stop being so angry and maybe try to get to know your neighbor.


but she did not point that out. She pointed out that both people of color and white people like little libraries. Did you read the article? There was nothing in there about the couple doing anything jarring to black culture.


I actually did read the article and was smart enough to understand the nuance and what was really upsetting to her. If you know the history of Inglewood and what's happening there, you would understand.


No, you don't understand. I know that blacks suffer with large systemic racism. I know gentrification is a problem. She did not discuss that. She said she was moved to hatred by the sight of a couple looking at a little library. She had so many other choices she could have made. Why that one? Why in such a public media?
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Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?




Imagine a white Italian American writing the same OP-ed lamenting the fact about Latino people using their library, because Little Italy in Baltimore and many other cities has been transformed pretty much entirely by a huge influx of Hispanic residents.

So let me get this straight - white people move in = racism, because of gentrification. White people move out = racism, because of white flight. White people move into the city, but stick with themselves = racism, because the city is segregated.

So where exactly are people supposed to live? Gentrification can also be GOOD, because many black Americans can start acquiring intergenerational wealth once they are able to cash in on the explosion in real estate prices.


It's white people moving into spaces that became black because there was no where else for these folks to live. Now these same places are desirable so white people want to move in. With that comes housing appreciation (which I understand can be great for some) and a cultural change in the neighborhood. It's not about the white people being racist. It's about culture. I guess she underestimated the ability white people to understand nuance.


Being triggered by seeing some white peoples looking at a little library seems deeply bizarre.


Good grief. It's clearly not about the little libraries.


She is writing in the NY Times. That is a world renown publication. The title is "does my little library lead to gentrification?" Why make such an inflammatory title? If she wants to discuss the dangers of gentrification, why use as her focus some poor couple that did not harm? There are so many real stories of gentrification problems she could have chosen. Why lambast some harmless couple who just wanted something to read?

Gentrifiers do cause immense harm to communities of color. That they smugly center on themselves usually causes more harm.
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It would be impossible for me to care less about this lunatic. She can be triggered all she wants whilst normal adults put their heads down and work hard to provide for their families and focus on what’s truly important. Trivial, performative BS outrage is what lightweight imbeciles focus on and its simply pathetic.
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Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?




Imagine a white Italian American writing the same OP-ed lamenting the fact about Latino people using their library, because Little Italy in Baltimore and many other cities has been transformed pretty much entirely by a huge influx of Hispanic residents.

So let me get this straight - white people move in = racism, because of gentrification. White people move out = racism, because of white flight. White people move into the city, but stick with themselves = racism, because the city is segregated.

So where exactly are people supposed to live? Gentrification can also be GOOD, because many black Americans can start acquiring intergenerational wealth once they are able to cash in on the explosion in real estate prices.


It's white people moving into spaces that became black because there was no where else for these folks to live. Now these same places are desirable so white people want to move in. With that comes housing appreciation (which I understand can be great for some) and a cultural change in the neighborhood. It's not about the white people being racist. It's about culture. I guess she underestimated the ability white people to understand nuance.


Being triggered by seeing some white peoples looking at a little library seems deeply bizarre.


Good grief. It's clearly not about the little libraries.


She is writing in the NY Times. That is a world renown publication. The title is "does my little library lead to gentrification?" Why make such an inflammatory title? If she wants to discuss the dangers of gentrification, why use as her focus some poor couple that did not harm? There are so many real stories of gentrification problems she could have chosen. Why lambast some harmless couple who just wanted something to read?

Gentrifiers do cause immense harm to communities of color. That they smugly center on themselves usually causes more harm.


so why didn't she discuss the actual harm? She could have. I'm sure she knows plenty of examples of real harm. But instead she chose to focus on a couple who wasn't doing anything, and may not have even been gentrifiers?
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Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?




Imagine a white Italian American writing the same OP-ed lamenting the fact about Latino people using their library, because Little Italy in Baltimore and many other cities has been transformed pretty much entirely by a huge influx of Hispanic residents.

So let me get this straight - white people move in = racism, because of gentrification. White people move out = racism, because of white flight. White people move into the city, but stick with themselves = racism, because the city is segregated.

So where exactly are people supposed to live? Gentrification can also be GOOD, because many black Americans can start acquiring intergenerational wealth once they are able to cash in on the explosion in real estate prices.


It's white people moving into spaces that became black because there was no where else for these folks to live. Now these same places are desirable so white people want to move in. With that comes housing appreciation (which I understand can be great for some) and a cultural change in the neighborhood. It's not about the white people being racist. It's about culture. I guess she underestimated the ability white people to understand nuance.


Being triggered by seeing some white peoples looking at a little library seems deeply bizarre.


Good grief. It's clearly not about the little libraries.


She is writing in the NY Times. That is a world renown publication. The title is "does my little library lead to gentrification?" Why make such an inflammatory title? If she wants to discuss the dangers of gentrification, why use as her focus some poor couple that did not harm? There are so many real stories of gentrification problems she could have chosen. Why lambast some harmless couple who just wanted something to read?

Gentrifiers do cause immense harm to communities of color. That they smugly center on themselves usually causes more harm.


so why didn't she discuss the actual harm? She could have. I'm sure she knows plenty of examples of real harm. But instead she chose to focus on a couple who wasn't doing anything, and may not have even been gentrifiers?

You’re focusing on the wrong people.
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Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?




Imagine a white Italian American writing the same OP-ed lamenting the fact about Latino people using their library, because Little Italy in Baltimore and many other cities has been transformed pretty much entirely by a huge influx of Hispanic residents.

So let me get this straight - white people move in = racism, because of gentrification. White people move out = racism, because of white flight. White people move into the city, but stick with themselves = racism, because the city is segregated.

So where exactly are people supposed to live? Gentrification can also be GOOD, because many black Americans can start acquiring intergenerational wealth once they are able to cash in on the explosion in real estate prices.


It's white people moving into spaces that became black because there was no where else for these folks to live. Now these same places are desirable so white people want to move in. With that comes housing appreciation (which I understand can be great for some) and a cultural change in the neighborhood. It's not about the white people being racist. It's about culture. I guess she underestimated the ability white people to understand nuance.


Being triggered by seeing some white peoples looking at a little library seems deeply bizarre.


Good grief. It's clearly not about the little libraries.


She is writing in the NY Times. That is a world renown publication. The title is "does my little library lead to gentrification?" Why make such an inflammatory title? If she wants to discuss the dangers of gentrification, why use as her focus some poor couple that did not harm? There are so many real stories of gentrification problems she could have chosen. Why lambast some harmless couple who just wanted something to read?

Gentrifiers do cause immense harm to communities of color. That they smugly center on themselves usually causes more harm.


so why didn't she discuss the actual harm? She could have. I'm sure she knows plenty of examples of real harm. But instead she chose to focus on a couple who wasn't doing anything, and may not have even been gentrifiers?


She doesn't focus on them. She mentions them and states that she is sure they are great people, but it triggered her. That's why we know the article is about more than just the couple.

I swear, this is such a nothingburger and people are literally triggered by it. Sad.
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Imagine a white person writing an Op-ED in the times complaining that their " white space" was violated by an AA wanting to use it.


Agreed, and for good reason.

Not sure why we can't hold both whites and blacks to the same standards. And by that I mean that an action or statement that is racist when done by a white person to a black person shoiuld be considered to be equally racist if the skin colors were reversed.


We will - after 500 years of whites being enslaved by blacks. Then we'll be even.

Where does this 500 years number come from? Slavery in what was to become the US lasted maybe 250 years, tops. In many parts of the 13 Colonies, it ended even earlier than that.

And it’s not like slavery started in 1619. It was a feature of many human societies from the moment that humans invented societies.

Slavery in what became the United States of America began in 1619.
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Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?




Imagine a white Italian American writing the same OP-ed lamenting the fact about Latino people using their library, because Little Italy in Baltimore and many other cities has been transformed pretty much entirely by a huge influx of Hispanic residents.

So let me get this straight - white people move in = racism, because of gentrification. White people move out = racism, because of white flight. White people move into the city, but stick with themselves = racism, because the city is segregated.

So where exactly are people supposed to live? Gentrification can also be GOOD, because many black Americans can start acquiring intergenerational wealth once they are able to cash in on the explosion in real estate prices.


It's white people moving into spaces that became black because there was no where else for these folks to live. Now these same places are desirable so white people want to move in. With that comes housing appreciation (which I understand can be great for some) and a cultural change in the neighborhood. It's not about the white people being racist. It's about culture. I guess she underestimated the ability white people to understand nuance.


Being triggered by seeing some white peoples looking at a little library seems deeply bizarre.


Good grief. It's clearly not about the little libraries.


Golly gee, the title and content suggest otherwise. Maybe there is a meta point there, but not one that made sense.
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Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?




Imagine a white Italian American writing the same OP-ed lamenting the fact about Latino people using their library, because Little Italy in Baltimore and many other cities has been transformed pretty much entirely by a huge influx of Hispanic residents.

So let me get this straight - white people move in = racism, because of gentrification. White people move out = racism, because of white flight. White people move into the city, but stick with themselves = racism, because the city is segregated.

So where exactly are people supposed to live? Gentrification can also be GOOD, because many black Americans can start acquiring intergenerational wealth once they are able to cash in on the explosion in real estate prices.


It's white people moving into spaces that became black because there was no where else for these folks to live. Now these same places are desirable so white people want to move in. With that comes housing appreciation (which I understand can be great for some) and a cultural change in the neighborhood. It's not about the white people being racist. It's about culture. I guess she underestimated the ability white people to understand nuance.


Being triggered by seeing some white peoples looking at a little library seems deeply bizarre.


Good grief. It's clearly not about the little libraries.


She is writing in the NY Times. That is a world renown publication. The title is "does my little library lead to gentrification?" Why make such an inflammatory title? If she wants to discuss the dangers of gentrification, why use as her focus some poor couple that did not harm? There are so many real stories of gentrification problems she could have chosen. Why lambast some harmless couple who just wanted something to read?

Gentrifiers do cause immense harm to communities of color. That they smugly center on themselves usually causes more harm.


I love gentrification. It made the murder rate in dc decline and brought tons of new coffee shops. Anyway, crime is going back up because of lax liberal criminal justice policy, and the related unwillingness to protect tax payers with legitimate solutions, because it’s not cool anymore, but c’est la vie. Anyway, on with blame game!
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Anonymous wrote:I, unlike most of you, spent the time to read the op ed. There was NOTHING racist about what she said. Inglewood is one of the remaining majority black neighborhoods in LA. It was black because white people didn't want to live there. Now that LA is expensive, white people want to come back. This article is about gentrification. I get it.

The reality is that a neighborhood changes when white people move in. Some of it is good and some of it is bad. More services come, but that sense of community goes away. That is not a racist statement. My white friends who live in older black neighborhoods talk about young white people moving in all the time. They hate it. The culture of the neighborhood changes. Here's one example, black people speak to you when you walk down the street. When you don't speak it feels disrespectful. Many white people don't speak. They just don't. There have been articles about this. They walk into their homes and don't interact with the neighbors. That is a cultural thing. Older black people sit on their porches.

It's not good or bad, it's just different. When young white people move into black neighborhoods, they don't always take the time to understand the culture of the neighborhood. This is not all white people, but it's many. That is not a racist statement, it just points out differences.

It's sad that by just pointing out differences, you are immediately labeled a racist. How about you get to know our culture. If you are black in America, you understand white culture, but the reverse is not always true.

I don't assume that I understand Latino culture (of course depending on where you are from that differs) or Indian culture or Asian culture. I like that there are differences and love learning. How is that racist?




Imagine a white Italian American writing the same OP-ed lamenting the fact about Latino people using their library, because Little Italy in Baltimore and many other cities has been transformed pretty much entirely by a huge influx of Hispanic residents.

So let me get this straight - white people move in = racism, because of gentrification. White people move out = racism, because of white flight. White people move into the city, but stick with themselves = racism, because the city is segregated.

So where exactly are people supposed to live? Gentrification can also be GOOD, because many black Americans can start acquiring intergenerational wealth once they are able to cash in on the explosion in real estate prices.


It's white people moving into spaces that became black because there was no where else for these folks to live. Now these same places are desirable so white people want to move in. With that comes housing appreciation (which I understand can be great for some) and a cultural change in the neighborhood. It's not about the white people being racist. It's about culture. I guess she underestimated the ability white people to understand nuance.


Being triggered by seeing some white peoples looking at a little library seems deeply bizarre.


Good grief. It's clearly not about the little libraries.


She is writing in the NY Times. That is a world renown publication. The title is "does my little library lead to gentrification?" Why make such an inflammatory title? If she wants to discuss the dangers of gentrification, why use as her focus some poor couple that did not harm? There are so many real stories of gentrification problems she could have chosen. Why lambast some harmless couple who just wanted something to read?

Gentrifiers do cause immense harm to communities of color. That they smugly center on themselves usually causes more harm.


so why didn't she discuss the actual harm? She could have. I'm sure she knows plenty of examples of real harm. But instead she chose to focus on a couple who wasn't doing anything, and may not have even been gentrifiers?


She doesn't focus on them. She mentions them and states that she is sure they are great people, but it triggered her. That's why we know the article is about more than just the couple.

I swear, this is such a nothingburger and people are literally triggered by it. Sad.


The author was triggered. Readers have opinions.
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It’s funny how everyone is a social justice expert these days pontificating on privilege, and checking it, and who can self flagellate the most and look the most virtuous. I’ll be over here investing in Opportunity Zones and banking on gentrification in rough neighborhoods.

And I am happy to welcome all into my development plans, and provide investment advice, no matter skin color or creed. As long as they are all about making money, we are good! Money knows no color. You guys can have a pity party about these mailboxes. It’s all so stupid and will be as disco was to the 70’s in retrospect. I’m so unwoke! Shame!
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