New York times op ed on maintaining black spaces

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Because the price for carving out your special privileged exception is that there is no grounds for refusing others in doing the same.

This. Shouldn't the goal be to provide everyone with the same opportunities, regardless of skin color?

The idea of gentrification displacing people as the author laments does not seem valid. Displacement would mean the people living in that neighborhood have some sort of permanent, codified right to live there in perpetuity. Isn’t it just a likely these folks sold their houses for a huge profit. Same thing in dc. Either way, gotta get those clicks for ad revenue and these articles makes tons of money.

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Yes, segregation is being pushed by the woke crowd especially at work and on college campuses. They request racial "safe spaces" such as dorms or work groups that only include POC.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand OP why it bothers you to hear opinions that you disagree with or makes you sad. The author is entitled to express her opinion and feelings just like Tom Cotton or the many other voices we hear in media.

The only person who should take this personally are the white people the author discuss. How often are Black people confronted with bad feelings from whites?

DP. It's emblematic of how low we've sunk that the woman would effectively like to put a "blacks only" sign on her lending library. You don't see any problems with that?

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OP, I'm neither white nor am I Black. I read the op-ed, and I understood perfectly what she was getting at (even though I'm a "white-adjacent" minority).

When I read OP's like yours, I feel hopeless that white Americans as a group will ever truly understand the extent to which they claim ownership of every aspect of American life. TBH, I'm actually okay with white people/culture being dominant (something will be), but the denialism and perpetual victim-hood drives me bonkers.

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Sounds like Black Fragility.

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I feel that the modern day segregationists are having their time in the sun but the reality of multi racial marriage and our daily lives in general where real priorities trump a racial lens for everything will make them look like fifty years from now the social luddites that they are. Writing like this will effectively be historical comedy.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm neither white nor am I Black. I read the op-ed, and I understood perfectly what she was getting at (even though I'm a "white-adjacent" minority).

When I read OP's like yours, I feel hopeless that white Americans as a group will ever truly understand the extent to which they claim ownership of every aspect of American life. TBH, I'm actually okay with white people/culture being dominant (something will be), but the denialism and perpetual victim-hood drives me bonkers.

They don’t. You’re projecting.

What people are objecting to is this woman wishing for essentially segregation of her neighborhood. No one has a right to live anywhere. Not white people not anyone else. Change happens. Prices go up. Houses sell people move. All people. I know you want to sound profound with easily digestible sound bites, but the issue of race in America is so nuanced. At the core, this author is posting racist ideas. It’s pretty simple.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like Black Fragility.

The author readily admits that, and for good reason.

As the couple wandered on, no books in hand, I thought about how fragile my feeling of being settled is. It didn’t matter that I own my house, as many of my neighbors do. Generations of racism, Jim Crow, disinvestment and redlining have meant that we don’t really control our own spaces

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm neither white nor am I Black. I read the op-ed, and I understood perfectly what she was getting at (even though I'm a "white-adjacent" minority).

When I read OP's like yours, I feel hopeless that white Americans as a group will ever truly understand the extent to which they claim ownership of every aspect of American life. TBH, I'm actually okay with white people/culture being dominant (something will be), but the denialism and perpetual victim-hood drives me bonkers.

They don’t. You’re projecting.

What people are objecting to is this woman wishing for essentially segregation of her neighborhood. No one has a right to live anywhere. Not white people not anyone else. Change happens. Prices go up. Houses sell people move. All people. I know you want to sound profound with easily digestible sound bites, but the issue of race in America is so nuanced. At the core, this author is posting racist ideas. It’s pretty simple.

You post stuff like this, and I'm the one lacking nuance and looking for "easily digestible sound bites".

Wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm neither white nor am I Black. I read the op-ed, and I understood perfectly what she was getting at (even though I'm a "white-adjacent" minority).

When I read OP's like yours, I feel hopeless that white Americans as a group will ever truly understand the extent to which they claim ownership of every aspect of American life. TBH, I'm actually okay with white people/culture being dominant (something will be), but the denialism and perpetual victim-hood drives me bonkers.

This!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like Black Fragility.

The author readily admits that, and for good reason.

As the couple wandered on, no books in hand, I thought about how fragile my feeling of being settled is. It didn’t matter that I own my house, as many of my neighbors do. Generations of racism, Jim Crow, disinvestment and redlining have meant that we don’t really control our own spaces

It seems like there is socially acceptable racism some people are just supposed to tolerate these days without question.

Whether it’s the Mayor of Chicago refusing to meet with white reporters, or the firing of all the docents at the Chicago art museum, or this article, or even new outlets choosing to capitalize Black but not white. There is this strange push, out of “equity”, that allows for discrimination. And then when concerns are, or objective reasoning is asked to be employed, there are claims of white fragility. And simply shutting down the conversation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, I'm neither white nor am I Black. I read the op-ed, and I understood perfectly what she was getting at (even though I'm a "white-adjacent" minority).

When I read OP's like yours, I feel hopeless that white Americans as a group will ever truly understand the extent to which they claim ownership of every aspect of American life. TBH, I'm actually okay with white people/culture being dominant (something will be), but the denialism and perpetual victim-hood drives me bonkers.

looking at a public little library is claiming ownership?

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Anonymous wrote:That op ed viewpoint is a fringe viewpoint in today’s climate.

That was given a megaphone.
And of course it’s going to be cherry picked to death by Fox News
And the Daily Caller and every other RWNJ website and news outlet.
These isn’t an interesting thought exercise.
Its unhelpful.
We have to find a place to unite in the middle.
This kind of stuff isn’t going to get us there.

The op-ed actually was a middle ground. It sounds like you're the one who needs to "get there". Sorry, but you're not entitled to dictate how black people identify themselves.

FoxNews won’t be be printing the full article. Half the country will read the choice excerpts on Facebook and become appropriately enraged.
Shame on the NYT’s.

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FoxNews won’t be be printing the full article.

Because they don't own it. Unless they license it from the NYT, they can only legally print small portions of it in the context of a review.

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I am glad I am not white and my white relatives are recent Caucasian immigrants as we have no part of this and can't be blamed.