What "serious incident" happened this morning 11/19 at BCC?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in favor of metal detectors and expulsion of students who are aggressive.

This. And, police in the schools. Let’s not call them sros and bring in police. Enough is enough.

Yeah because metal detectors will keep chairs out of schools. And police in every classroom will stop kids from picking them up and hitting people with them.

Some of you really want to live in a police state.

I'm pretty sure it's part of the GOP strategy to astroturf dissent with local schools and these poster's don't even live here.

1. These posters, not these poster’s. No need for an apostrophe in a plural.
2. I can see the school from my house.
3. Ignoring genuine parent discontent is not a good strategy.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm in favor of metal detectors and expulsion of students who are aggressive.

x100000

FCPS, too. It is out of control. Parents defending these hostile kids have lost touch with reality.

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I don’t think many people want metal detectors. What we want is disruptive and violent pupils removed from the general school population.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think many people want metal detectors. What we want is disruptive and violent pupils removed from the general school population.

YUP. This 100%.
there are juvenile detention centers for these kids

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Anonymous wrote:My kid told me that a kid was hit in the head with a chair. Horrifying. Expulsion should ensue if witnesses can corroborate this.

I do not think expulsion exists. Suspension does not really even exist.

It’s against the law to expel a student from public school since the state has a duty to educate them. Mcps used to have several alternative schools for those who couldn’t behave in a traditional classroom. Because these schools turned out mostly black they were shuttered. Now they just keep them home for a week or switch schools.

Exactly this. We have thrown out the baby with the bath water. The result is ghat kids who are potential shooters or have been expelled from other schools are just shuffled around with no real support or consequences.

They can form a virtual program for those kids. They are required to provide an education, does not have to be in person.

+1,000. Problem solved. If your kid won’t behave, enjoy having them back in your living room.

This plus mental health and family intentervention.

The bold would be 100% illegal. Kids have a right to equal access to education. If a child has a mood issu, that child should be evaluated and provided supports. You can suspend them, you can provide alternative in person programming but you cannot simply say “you can never come back to school”. Access to a free and appropriate public education is a civil right, and if you are offering in person school to the general population, you also have to offer it to “troublemakers” in some form.

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Anonymous wrote:We are have to teach kids to just walk away.

We also need to teach kids to not use cruel words.

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Anonymous wrote:So... what actually happened?

The rumor is that one boy was gently teasing another. That kid went nuts and started beating the crap out of the teaser with a chair, to the point where he was hospitalized. Then he ran off, so the school was put into lockdown.

I don't think metal detectors are helpful if the weapon of choice is a chair. What is needed is better mental health interventions, and removing children with this kind of disposition to more secure facilities where they can be catered for more appropriately.

They are good for knives and guns.

Mental health interventions would not help. This kid was probably teased for years and go to the breaking point. We need to address the issues, like this kid being teased for years, not just put a bandaid via a quick therapy session.

What are you talking about? You have no idea that this kid was being teased for years. That is something you have literally just made up.
It could be that this kid was not being bullied, but is mentally unstable and has a history of violent behavior, and a relatively innocent comment set him off.

In which case, I agree a quick therapy session would not solve anything, but removing him from the general population and putting him in a more suitable setting would be the solution...

There is no such thing as being “gently teased”. Words hurt. Sure, violence is never an answer, but the kid in the hospital is not an innocent victim.

Wtf, of course there is. Kids make mildly reading jokes all the time, all day long. You are a victim blaming idiot unless you have specific knowledge the assailant was actually being bullied.

Look, if your brat is teasing and cannot read social cues of others that its making them uncomfortable, you need to parent your kid better and get them social skills training. This was probably bullying and the kid who attacked had enough. If the bully is bullying all day, every day, there is some merit to the other child snapping. It usually has to be pretty bad to go that far. Maybe your brat will learn from this.

Okay, Mrs. Klebold.

+1

WTAF?

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Anonymous wrote:So... what actually happened?

The rumor is that one boy was gently teasing another. That kid went nuts and started beating the crap out of the teaser with a chair, to the point where he was hospitalized. Then he ran off, so the school was put into lockdown.

I don't think metal detectors are helpful if the weapon of choice is a chair. What is needed is better mental health interventions, and removing children with this kind of disposition to more secure facilities where they can be catered for more appropriately.

They are good for knives and guns.

Mental health interventions would not help. This kid was probably teased for years and go to the breaking point. We need to address the issues, like this kid being teased for years, not just put a bandaid via a quick therapy session.

What are you talking about? You have no idea that this kid was being teased for years. That is something you have literally just made up.
It could be that this kid was not being bullied, but is mentally unstable and has a history of violent behavior, and a relatively innocent comment set him off.

In which case, I agree a quick therapy session would not solve anything, but removing him from the general population and putting him in a more suitable setting would be the solution...

There is no such thing as being “gently teased”. Words hurt. Sure, violence is never an answer, but the kid in the hospital is not an innocent victim.

Wtf, of course there is. Kids make mildly reading jokes all the time, all day long. You are a victim blaming idiot unless you have specific knowledge the assailant was actually being bullied.

Look, if your brat is teasing and cannot read social cues of others that its making them uncomfortable, you need to parent your kid better and get them social skills training. This was probably bullying and the kid who attacked had enough. If the bully is bullying all day, every day, there is some merit to the other child snapping. It usually has to be pretty bad to go that far. Maybe your brat will learn from this.

Okay, Mrs. Klebold.

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WTAF?

Anyone defending a kid beating another kid with a chair is just as unstable as the aggressor. The PP needs therapy, as do probably both kids.

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Anonymous wrote:We are have to teach kids to just walk away.

We also need to teach kids to not use cruel words.

Can you just stop? Suggesting this kid deserved to be beat with a chair is really disturbing.

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Anonymous wrote:My kid told me that a kid was hit in the head with a chair. Horrifying. Expulsion should ensue if witnesses can corroborate this.

I do not think expulsion exists. Suspension does not really even exist.

It’s against the law to expel a student from public school since the state has a duty to educate them. Mcps used to have several alternative schools for those who couldn’t behave in a traditional classroom. Because these schools turned out mostly black they were shuttered. Now they just keep them home for a week or switch schools.

Exactly this. We have thrown out the baby with the bath water. The result is ghat kids who are potential shooters or have been expelled from other schools are just shuffled around with no real support or consequences.

They can form a virtual program for those kids. They are required to provide an education, does not have to be in person.

+1,000. Problem solved. If your kid won’t behave, enjoy having them back in your living room.

This plus mental health and family intentervention.

The bold would be 100% illegal. Kids have a right to equal access to education. If a child has a mood issu, that child should be evaluated and provided supports. You can suspend them, you can provide alternative in person programming but you cannot simply say “you can never come back to school”. Access to a free and appropriate public education is a civil right, and if you are offering in person school to the general population, you also have to offer it to “troublemakers” in some form.

DP

Oh, great! I hope you feel the same way about Covid vaccine mandates. People on here were saying MCPS can mandate the shit for all kids and anyone who opts out can apply for Virtual Learning.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think many people want metal detectors. What we want is disruptive and violent pupils removed from the general school population.

Metal detectors will slow entrance into the school too much to be feasible. It would take hours to let all those kids in after a proper search. Think about your TSA lines at the airport.

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Anonymous wrote:We are have to teach kids to just walk away.

We also need to teach kids to not use cruel words.

Can you just stop? Suggesting this kid deserved to be beat with a chair is really disturbing.

Some bullying is pretty horrific so who knows, but it might be understandable why the kid snapped.

Most people only walk away so many times and eventually snap. Many of the parents bully the bullying kids so they have no issue with the parents being bullies. So, no surprise there.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think many people want metal detectors. What we want is disruptive and violent pupils removed from the general school population.

In order to catch it, you need things like metal detectors.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think many people want metal detectors. What we want is disruptive and violent pupils removed from the general school population.

In order to catch it, you need things like metal detectors.

Metal detectors to keep ringbinders and chairs out of school!

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Anonymous wrote:My kid told me that a kid was hit in the head with a chair. Horrifying. Expulsion should ensue if witnesses can corroborate this.

I do not think expulsion exists. Suspension does not really even exist.

It’s against the law to expel a student from public school since the state has a duty to educate them. Mcps used to have several alternative schools for those who couldn’t behave in a traditional classroom. Because these schools turned out mostly black they were shuttered. Now they just keep them home for a week or switch schools.

Exactly this. We have thrown out the baby with the bath water. The result is ghat kids who are potential shooters or have been expelled from other schools are just shuffled around with no real support or consequences.

They can form a virtual program for those kids. They are required to provide an education, does not have to be in person.

+1,000. Problem solved. If your kid won’t behave, enjoy having them back in your living room.

This plus mental health and family intentervention.

The bold would be 100% illegal. Kids have a right to equal access to education. If a child has a mood issu, that child should be evaluated and provided supports. You can suspend them, you can provide alternative in person programming but you cannot simply say “you can never come back to school”. Access to a free and appropriate public education is a civil right, and if you are offering in person school to the general population, you also have to offer it to “troublemakers” in some form.

A mood issue isn’t the same thing as a proven threat to other students. What is illegal is stabbing someone, assault, bringing a weapon to school. These have happened at a number of schools within the past number of weeks! These kids need to be out of mainstream school and getting help along with an state required high school education elsewhere. If there is not a special school to send them to, then they should be at home doing virtual learning with home visits from a SW until one is built.