VA Teachers: which gubernatorial candidate would be better for education (single policy opinion)

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a teachers union endorse a Republican candidate? The GOP doesn’t GAF about public schools. If anything, they want to dismantle and defund them.

I’m glad VA is giving teacher unions some power - when teachers have a strong voice the kids flourish. Areas with strong teachers unions tend to have great schools.

Glad VA is finally catching up.

Are the unions what make great in places like Detroit? I think a PP upthread may be right about teacher unions focusing on teachers. It would be interesting to see if students could form their own union in some way. That could be something I might get behind. -native Detroiter

Teacher unions are one factor. So is funding.

So when DeVos defunded public schools in Detroit, she further crippled them. It was truly criminal what she did to schools there.

Throwing more money at the problems in DPS did not help. It would be better spent on social services outside of school.

Yes, we should be leaning in to support families as well, not pulling back.

Community schools
Two-generation programs
Wraparound support

They can help break the poverty cycle.

And schools should be focused more on academics than social services, which should be outside of school.

[Anonymous]

Answer to question: Youngkin would be better for education.
McAuliffe would be better for teachers' unions.

[Anonymous]

After the last year and a half or so, I'm sure that voters are waiting with bated breath to hear who VA teachers think would be "best" for education. The twist is that, to the extent anyone wants to hear this information, it's so that they can vote for the other candidate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would a teachers union endorse a Republican candidate? The GOP doesn’t GAF about public schools. If anything, they want to dismantle and defund them.

I’m glad VA is giving teacher unions some power - when teachers have a strong voice the kids flourish. Areas with strong teachers unions tend to have great schools.

Glad VA is finally catching up.

Are the unions what make great in places like Detroit? I think a PP upthread may be right about teacher unions focusing on teachers. It would be interesting to see if students could form their own union in some way. That could be something I might get behind. -native Detroiter

Teacher unions are one factor. So is funding.

So when DeVos defunded public schools in Detroit, she further crippled them. It was truly criminal what she did to schools there.

Throwing more money at the problems in DPS did not help. It would be better spent on social services outside of school.

Yes, we should be leaning in to support families as well, not pulling back.

Community schools
Two-generation programs
Wraparound support

They can help break the poverty cycle.

Problem is, if one leans in too far they end up leaning out!

[Anonymous]

McAuliffe of course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:McAuliffe of course.

Please explain your thoughts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would a teachers union endorse a Republican candidate? The GOP doesn’t GAF about public schools. If anything, they want to dismantle and defund them.

I’m glad VA is giving teacher unions some power - when teachers have a strong voice the kids flourish. Areas with strong teachers unions tend to have great schools.

Glad VA is finally catching up.

Are the unions what make great in places like Detroit? I think a PP upthread may be right about teacher unions focusing on teachers. It would be interesting to see if students could form their own union in some way. That could be something I might get behind. -native Detroiter

Teacher unions are one factor. So is funding.

So when DeVos defunded public schools in Detroit, she further crippled them. It was truly criminal what she did to schools there.

Throwing more money at the problems in DPS did not help. It would be better spent on social services outside of school.

Yes, we should be leaning in to support families as well, not pulling back.

Community schools
Two-generation programs
Wraparound support

They can help break the poverty cycle.

Problem is, if one leans in too far they end up leaning out!

Anecdotally I find people who consider themselves liberal and vote for Democratic PArty candidates talk like conservatives when it comes to their kids’ schools. Locally we can see that played out in threads about certain FCPS school boundaries. It will be fascinating to see what happens in the next few years when decisions on the new western school start coming more into focus. It will even be interesting if the decision is killed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would a teachers union endorse a Republican candidate? The GOP doesn’t GAF about public schools. If anything, they want to dismantle and defund them.

I’m glad VA is giving teacher unions some power - when teachers have a strong voice the kids flourish. Areas with strong teachers unions tend to have great schools.

Glad VA is finally catching up.

Are the unions what make great in places like Detroit? I think a PP upthread may be right about teacher unions focusing on teachers. It would be interesting to see if students could form their own union in some way. That could be something I might get behind. -native Detroiter

Teacher unions are one factor. So is funding.

So when DeVos defunded public schools in Detroit, she further crippled them. It was truly criminal what she did to schools there.

Throwing more money at the problems in DPS did not help. It would be better spent on social services outside of school.

Yes, we should be leaning in to support families as well, not pulling back.

Community schools
Two-generation programs
Wraparound support

They can help break the poverty cycle.

Problem is, if one leans in too far they end up leaning out!

Anecdotally I find people who consider themselves liberal and vote for Democratic PArty candidates talk like conservatives when it comes to their kids’ schools. Locally we can see that played out in threads about certain FCPS school boundaries. It will be fascinating to see what happens in the next few years when decisions on the new western school start coming more into focus. It will even be interesting if the decision is killed.

Wanted to ask whether teachers are agnostic about what happens with school boundaries and whether the gubernatorial election will have any impact on how boundaries change (or don’t).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The VEA chart doesn't address a lot of education issues.

No mention of VMPI with watered down math classes.

Probably because VPMI doesn’t “water down classes”.

They said so in their videos. They are pulling parts of the curriculum and want to have things that are useful for everyone.
In other words practical math/applied math. And this is for everyone, teaching to the lowest common denominator.

They want to blend and shift content around. They want to add other alternatives beyond calculus. That’s not “watering down”.

If anything, it was pushing some content currently considered “advanced” to the basic path.

Not just blending and shifting. They are dropping curriculum they consider not practical. An example given was ratio of intersecting chords.
And the blending and shifting is happening with everyone in mind, so it is prealgebra in 8th grade and very little algebra 2, despite their claims to the contrary.

[Anonymous]

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Anecdotally I find people who consider themselves liberal and vote for Democratic PArty candidates talk like conservatives when it comes to their kids’ schools. Locally we can see that played out in threads about certain FCPS school boundaries. It will be fascinating to see what happens in the next few years when decisions on the new western school start coming more into focus. It will even be interesting if the decision is killed.

People live in the whitest place they can afford. Can you explain the western school and what the issues are, for those of us who don't understand the demographics of Fairfax?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The VEA chart doesn't address a lot of education issues.

No mention of VMPI with watered down math classes.

Probably because VPMI doesn’t “water down classes”.

They said so in their videos. They are pulling parts of the curriculum and want to have things that are useful for everyone.
In other words practical math/applied math. And this is for everyone, teaching to the lowest common denominator.

They want to blend and shift content around. They want to add other alternatives beyond calculus. That’s not “watering down”.

If anything, it was pushing some content currently considered “advanced” to the basic path.

Not just blending and shifting. They are dropping curriculum they consider not practical. An example given was ratio of intersecting chords.
And the blending and shifting is happening with everyone in mind, so it is prealgebra in 8th grade and very little algebra 2, despite their claims to the contrary.

They also said they were adding data science and other more modern concepts.

They will lay out the default path of courses - just like they do today (math 5, math 6, etc.). And school districts can determine how to specifically implement - just like they do today (math 5/6, math 7/8, etc.).

The content will be there - just maybe in a slightly different sequence. And it sounded like the default path would cover *more* advanced concepts by grade level than it does today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am very concerned that Youngkin seems to support censorship in schools, so I think McAuliffe is better.

They both seem to support censorship which is scary. The Ds have forgotten you can’t censor either.

[Anonymous]

Youngkin would ensure no matter what happens with the pandemic - schools stay open going forward.

Kids & teachers probably safer in school with McAuliffe likely continue to encourage masking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am very concerned that Youngkin seems to support censorship in schools, so I think McAuliffe is better.

They both seem to support censorship which is scary. The Ds have forgotten you can’t censor either.

What do Ds want to censor?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin would ensure no matter what happens with the pandemic - schools stay open going forward.

Kids & teachers probably safer in school with McAuliffe likely continue to encourage masking.

The current Democratic trifecta already did ensure that schools stay open. And Youngkin wants to get rid of all masking.