Does Council bill just let people keep their kids home and not educate them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:How does the ability to keep your kids home until January without providing them education NOT mean some sort of child abuse?

Because they are providing them an education.

The thing is that maybe YOU or the other poster are providing their children with an education. But there are parents who will be able to just...not do that. There's nothing to stop them. That is educational neglect. It is a crime, or was until now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does the ability to keep your kids home until January without providing them education NOT mean some sort of child abuse?

Because they are providing them an education.

The thing is that maybe YOU or the other poster are providing their children with an education. But there are parents who will be able to just...not do that. There's nothing to stop them. That is educational neglect. It is a crime, or was until now.

Or, realistically, even the people who THINK they are providing an education will really not be doing so, because they aren't educators and don't know what is supposed to be covered in school.

Unless, of course, they are doing some back-door virtual where they are demanding resources from the school. Which the school should not provide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does the ability to keep your kids home until January without providing them education NOT mean some sort of child abuse?

Because they are providing them an education.

The thing is that maybe YOU or the other poster are providing their children with an education. But there are parents who will be able to just...not do that. There's nothing to stop them. That is educational neglect. It is a crime, or was until now.

And if the school thinks that’s what is happening, they can give the family unexcused absences.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I see the Mayor's PR folks are out in force today.

orrrrrrr.....we give a crap about children. Unlike your privileged self.

No, you give a crap about the mayor being slapped down by the Council.

I actually don't give a sh*t about the mayor.

My mother was a teacher at a high-poverty rural school district. She brought stories home all of the time of kids that were reliant on the schools to eat. She told us stories about parents who just 'forgot' to bring their kids to school. She told us stories of kids that had to be removed from their homes because the parents just didn't bother with basics.

How is it ok to just have kids gone from the map, and that's fine for you?

It’s fine with me because the school can give them unexcused absences, just like before. We don’t need fake truancy and BS CPS investigations in this school system. We have real problems.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does the ability to keep your kids home until January without providing them education NOT mean some sort of child abuse?

Because they are providing them an education.

The thing is that maybe YOU or the other poster are providing their children with an education. But there are parents who will be able to just...not do that. There's nothing to stop them. That is educational neglect. It is a crime, or was until now.

And if the school thinks that’s what is happening, they can give the family unexcused absences.

I'm sure this will be applied equitably. (Meaning: I don't believe this will be applied equitably.)

Also, the school should not be made to make that decision. Once they decide it for one parent, all parents will be able to. Because how is the school going to draw the line?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does the ability to keep your kids home until January without providing them education NOT mean some sort of child abuse?

Because they are providing them an education.

The thing is that maybe YOU or the other poster are providing their children with an education. But there are parents who will be able to just...not do that. There's nothing to stop them. That is educational neglect. It is a crime, or was until now.

And if the school thinks that’s what is happening, they can give the family unexcused absences.

I'm sure this will be applied equitably. (Meaning: I don't believe this will be applied equitably.)

Also, the school should not be made to make that decision. Once they decide it for one parent, all parents will be able to. Because how is the school going to draw the line?

They can't. So you will have people that just don't do anything educational for their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does the ability to keep your kids home until January without providing them education NOT mean some sort of child abuse?

Because they are providing them an education.

The thing is that maybe YOU or the other poster are providing their children with an education. But there are parents who will be able to just...not do that. There's nothing to stop them. That is educational neglect. It is a crime, or was until now.

And if the school thinks that’s what is happening, they can give the family unexcused absences.

I'm sure this will be applied equitably. (Meaning: I don't believe this will be applied equitably.)

Also, the school should not be made to make that decision. Once they decide it for one parent, all parents will be able to. Because how is the school going to draw the line?

You can't both be crying about brown kids disappearing with no one noticing and then throw out the equity card.

And of course the school should be in the position to make the decision. It's their own students and schools ALREADY do this. Schools give excused absences all the time - just look at the Janney parents posting about how their principal will "work with them" on excused vs. unexcused absences.

[Anonymous]

what's the solution from the people that wanted this?

once upon a time, a homeschool application was the way that parents could provide some small measure that SOMETHING educational was happening for their kids.

now they don't even need to provide that.

how can you confirm that a parent is providing an education to their child when the child never attends virtual school or in-person school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does the ability to keep your kids home until January without providing them education NOT mean some sort of child abuse?

Because they are providing them an education.

The thing is that maybe YOU or the other poster are providing their children with an education. But there are parents who will be able to just...not do that. There's nothing to stop them. That is educational neglect. It is a crime, or was until now.

And if the school thinks that’s what is happening, they can give the family unexcused absences.

I'm sure this will be applied equitably. (Meaning: I don't believe this will be applied equitably.)

Also, the school should not be made to make that decision. Once they decide it for one parent, all parents will be able to. Because how is the school going to draw the line?

They can't. So you will have people that just don't do anything educational for their kids.

Actually the schools were doing home visits, seeing the education plan the parents had put together, and were openly talking about how ridiculous this whole thing is. This has all been reported in the news.

This is very different than ... kid just disappears from school and nobody reports it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:what's the solution from the people that wanted this?

once upon a time, a homeschool application was the way that parents could provide some small measure that SOMETHING educational was happening for their kids.

now they don't even need to provide that.

how can you confirm that a parent is providing an education to their child when the child never attends virtual school or in-person school?

You do realize that this is something that will be in effect for... three months. Simmer down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does the ability to keep your kids home until January without providing them education NOT mean some sort of child abuse?

Because they are providing them an education.

The thing is that maybe YOU or the other poster are providing their children with an education. But there are parents who will be able to just...not do that. There's nothing to stop them. That is educational neglect. It is a crime, or was until now.

And if the school thinks that’s what is happening, they can give the family unexcused absences.

I'm sure this will be applied equitably. (Meaning: I don't believe this will be applied equitably.)

Also, the school should not be made to make that decision. Once they decide it for one parent, all parents will be able to. Because how is the school going to draw the line?

You can't both be crying about brown kids disappearing with no one noticing and then throw out the equity card.

And of course the school should be in the position to make the decision. It's their own students and schools ALREADY do this. Schools give excused absences all the time - just look at the Janney parents posting about how their principal will "work with them" on excused vs. unexcused absences.

excused absences are based on interactions with medical providers. what other scenario permits it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does the ability to keep your kids home until January without providing them education NOT mean some sort of child abuse?

Because they are providing them an education.

The thing is that maybe YOU or the other poster are providing their children with an education. But there are parents who will be able to just...not do that. There's nothing to stop them. That is educational neglect. It is a crime, or was until now.

And if the school thinks that’s what is happening, they can give the family unexcused absences.

I'm sure this will be applied equitably. (Meaning: I don't believe this will be applied equitably.)

Also, the school should not be made to make that decision. Once they decide it for one parent, all parents will be able to. Because how is the school going to draw the line?

They can't. So you will have people that just don't do anything educational for their kids.

Actually the schools were doing home visits, seeing the education plan the parents had put together, and were openly talking about how ridiculous this whole thing is. This has all been reported in the news.

This is very different than ... kid just disappears from school and nobody reports it.

why not just homeschool your kids if you've got an educational plan? serious question. why waste everyone's time?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what's the solution from the people that wanted this?

once upon a time, a homeschool application was the way that parents could provide some small measure that SOMETHING educational was happening for their kids.

now they don't even need to provide that.

how can you confirm that a parent is providing an education to their child when the child never attends virtual school or in-person school?

You do realize that this is something that will be in effect for... three months. Simmer down.

LOL the people keeping non-medically-fragile kids home due to some miniscule risk say to "simmer down."

You all just had the Council pass emergency legislation for you....."simmer down." oh man....you guys are funny.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what's the solution from the people that wanted this?

once upon a time, a homeschool application was the way that parents could provide some small measure that SOMETHING educational was happening for their kids.

now they don't even need to provide that.

how can you confirm that a parent is providing an education to their child when the child never attends virtual school or in-person school?

You do realize that this is something that will be in effect for... three months. Simmer down.

No, you know what will happen?

Becky will decide it's still not safe in January, 2022. And the Council will extend this and kids can just never go to school but they aren't absent because Becky's got an "educational plan."

[Anonymous]

Why do you care what others do? We planned to keep ours home if we did not get into virtual. Given the health pandemic, lack of safety precautions it was a no for us.