FCPS comprehensive boundary review

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just checked Google Maps and it said the commute to Herndon from Forestville was 15 minutes less than the commute to Langley.

🙄 so you want to destroy communities over (checks notes). 2 minutes for Herndon Middle and fifteen minutes for Herndon High?

If you want to redistrict for your home values or for DEI reasons, just say that. Because those times are not material to anyone, particularly those who chose to live in the area.

Melodrama in the service of segregation is never a good look. You’ll be fine.

That you think it’s segregation to want stability of schools and pyramids shows just how extreme and out of touch you are.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just checked Google Maps and it said the commute to Herndon from Forestville was 15 minutes less than the commute to Langley.

🙄 so you want to destroy communities over (checks notes). 2 minutes for Herndon Middle and fifteen minutes for Herndon High?

If you want to redistrict for your home values or for DEI reasons, just say that. Because those times are not material to anyone, particularly those who chose to live in the area.

The main reason is the increased housing currently being and recently built in the Tysons area and Langley will have to take on some of that load from McLean and Marshall. They can take on more if some of its western boundary gets moved to Herndon. It may not happen with this round, but as Tysons grows and the condos and apartments keep getting built, it will increase the pressure. You can always push for the illusive new western high school instead. The time savings you mentioned is just gravy.

There is a poster who just points to distance to justify moving Forestville, even though times differences are de minimus.

but frankly, with what you are saying, there are zero capacity issues currently, so that can wait for a future change (since they are apparently going to upset the apple cart every five years).

Don’t forget, btw, that there is competing growth in Herndon to contend with.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just checked Google Maps and it said the commute to Herndon from Forestville was 15 minutes less than the commute to Langley.

🙄 so you want to destroy communities over (checks notes). 2 minutes for Herndon Middle and fifteen minutes for Herndon High?

If you want to redistrict for your home values or for DEI reasons, just say that. Because those times are not material to anyone, particularly those who chose to live in the area.

The main reason is the increased housing currently being and recently built in the Tysons area and Langley will have to take on some of that load from McLean and Marshall. They can take on more if some of its western boundary gets moved to Herndon. It may not happen with this round, but as Tysons grows and the condos and apartments keep getting built, it will increase the pressure. You can always push for the illusive new western high school instead. The time savings you mentioned is just gravy.

I’m not super familiar with the area but didn’t falls church just get a renovation? Can’t they also take some excess from McLean/marshall (in addition to Langley taking some McLean)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just checked Google Maps and it said the commute to Herndon from Forestville was 15 minutes less than the commute to Langley.

🙄 so you want to destroy communities over (checks notes). 2 minutes for Herndon Middle and fifteen minutes for Herndon High?

If you want to redistrict for your home values or for DEI reasons, just say that. Because those times are not material to anyone, particularly those who chose to live in the area.

The main reason is the increased housing currently being and recently built in the Tysons area and Langley will have to take on some of that load from McLean and Marshall. They can take on more if some of its western boundary gets moved to Herndon. It may not happen with this round, but as Tysons grows and the condos and apartments keep getting built, it will increase the pressure. You can always push for the illusive new western high school instead. The time savings you mentioned is just gravy.

I’m not super familiar with the area but didn’t falls church just get a renovation? Can’t they also take some excess from McLean/marshall (in addition to Langley taking some McLean)

I am sure they will take some of it. However, they planned to grow the population of Tysons from around 10,000 to 100,000. It will take all of the surrounding schools to absorb the additional students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just checked Google Maps and it said the commute to Herndon from Forestville was 15 minutes less than the commute to Langley.

🙄 so you want to destroy communities over (checks notes). 2 minutes for Herndon Middle and fifteen minutes for Herndon High?

If you want to redistrict for your home values or for DEI reasons, just say that. Because those times are not material to anyone, particularly those who chose to live in the area.

The main reason is the increased housing currently being and recently built in the Tysons area and Langley will have to take on some of that load from McLean and Marshall. They can take on more if some of its western boundary gets moved to Herndon. It may not happen with this round, but as Tysons grows and the condos and apartments keep getting built, it will increase the pressure. You can always push for the illusive new western high school instead. The time savings you mentioned is just gravy.

There is a poster who just points to distance to justify moving Forestville, even though times differences are de minimus.

but frankly, with what you are saying, there are zero capacity issues currently, so that can wait for a future change (since they are apparently going to upset the apple cart every five years).

Don’t forget, btw, that there is competing growth in Herndon to contend with.

Hence my comment “It may not happen with this round”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just checked Google Maps and it said the commute to Herndon from Forestville was 15 minutes less than the commute to Langley.

🙄 so you want to destroy communities over (checks notes). 2 minutes for Herndon Middle and fifteen minutes for Herndon High?

If you want to redistrict for your home values or for DEI reasons, just say that. Because those times are not material to anyone, particularly those who chose to live in the area.

The main reason is the increased housing currently being and recently built in the Tysons area and Langley will have to take on some of that load from McLean and Marshall. They can take on more if some of its western boundary gets moved to Herndon. It may not happen with this round, but as Tysons grows and the condos and apartments keep getting built, it will increase the pressure. You can always push for the illusive new western high school instead. The time savings you mentioned is just gravy.

I’m not super familiar with the area but didn’t falls church just get a renovation? Can’t they also take some excess from McLean/marshall (in addition to Langley taking some McLean)

Yes, Madison and Falls Church HS can also help absorb the edges of Marshall/McLean’s boundaries. BUT if Langley takes the Spring Hill attendance island, they’ll likely take Tysons ES, as the site is within those boundaries, which would give Langley another ES feeder. This is at least a decade off, though, so at least two comprehensive reviews away.

[Anonymous]

I think the Westbriar island in Vienna at Marshall probably will be eliminated. Maybe those kids move to Colvin Run/Langley and then the Colvin Run/Great Falls/Forestville boundaries get adjusted, with at least part of the area now at Forestville moved into the Herndon pyramid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just checked Google Maps and it said the commute to Herndon from Forestville was 15 minutes less than the commute to Langley.

🙄 so you want to destroy communities over (checks notes). 2 minutes for Herndon Middle and fifteen minutes for Herndon High?

If you want to redistrict for your home values or for DEI reasons, just say that. Because those times are not material to anyone, particularly those who chose to live in the area.

The main reason is the increased housing currently being and recently built in the Tysons area and Langley will have to take on some of that load from McLean and Marshall. They can take on more if some of its western boundary gets moved to Herndon. It may not happen with this round, but as Tysons grows and the condos and apartments keep getting built, it will increase the pressure. You can always push for the illusive new western high school instead. The time savings you mentioned is just gravy.

I’m not super familiar with the area but didn’t falls church just get a renovation? Can’t they also take some excess from McLean/marshall (in addition to Langley taking some McLean)

Yes, Madison and Falls Church HS can also help absorb the edges of Marshall/McLean’s boundaries. BUT if Langley takes the Spring Hill attendance island, they’ll likely take Tysons ES, as the site is within those boundaries, which would give Langley another ES feeder. This is at least a decade off, though, so at least two comprehensive reviews away.

Seems like now is the time to expand McLean. Should’ve been done a long time ago.

[Anonymous]

The unnecessary Dunn Loring Elementary School funding should go to build a new Tysons Elementary School or expanding McLean High School.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just checked Google Maps and it said the commute to Herndon from Forestville was 15 minutes less than the commute to Langley.

🙄 so you want to destroy communities over (checks notes). 2 minutes for Herndon Middle and fifteen minutes for Herndon High?

If you want to redistrict for your home values or for DEI reasons, just say that. Because those times are not material to anyone, particularly those who chose to live in the area.

The main reason is the increased housing currently being and recently built in the Tysons area and Langley will have to take on some of that load from McLean and Marshall. They can take on more if some of its western boundary gets moved to Herndon. It may not happen with this round, but as Tysons grows and the condos and apartments keep getting built, it will increase the pressure. You can always push for the illusive new western high school instead. The time savings you mentioned is just gravy.

There is a poster who just points to distance to justify moving Forestville, even though times differences are de minimus.

but frankly, with what you are saying, there are zero capacity issues currently, so that can wait for a future change (since they are apparently going to upset the apple cart every five years).

Don’t forget, btw, that there is competing growth in Herndon to contend with.

+1 I don’t think there’s any reason to cut Forestville loose to Herndon right now; Cooper/Langley don’t seem to be bursting at the seams at this point. But honestly - it’s coming down the pike with the growth in Tysons. Something will have to give eventually in the McLean/Langley/Marshall area and, unfortunately, Forestville is the physical outlier. Again, it doesn’t need to happen right now but don’t be surprised in 5-10 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just checked Google Maps and it said the commute to Herndon from Forestville was 15 minutes less than the commute to Langley.

🙄 so you want to destroy communities over (checks notes). 2 minutes for Herndon Middle and fifteen minutes for Herndon High?

If you want to redistrict for your home values or for DEI reasons, just say that. Because those times are not material to anyone, particularly those who chose to live in the area.

The main reason is the increased housing currently being and recently built in the Tysons area and Langley will have to take on some of that load from McLean and Marshall. They can take on more if some of its western boundary gets moved to Herndon. It may not happen with this round, but as Tysons grows and the condos and apartments keep getting built, it will increase the pressure. You can always push for the illusive new western high school instead. The time savings you mentioned is just gravy.

There is a poster who just points to distance to justify moving Forestville, even though times differences are de minimus.

but frankly, with what you are saying, there are zero capacity issues currently, so that can wait for a future change (since they are apparently going to upset the apple cart every five years).

Don’t forget, btw, that there is competing growth in Herndon to contend with.

+1 I don’t think there’s any reason to cut Forestville loose to Herndon right now; Cooper/Langley don’t seem to be bursting at the seams at this point. But honestly - it’s coming down the pike with the growth in Tysons. Something will have to give eventually in the McLean/Langley/Marshall area and, unfortunately, Forestville is the physical outlier. Again, it doesn’t need to happen right now but don’t be surprised in 5-10 years.

This also allows the dust to settle on the Herndon growth over the next decade. It’s criminal to move students just to overcrowd them elsewhere.

Shame on this school board.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just checked Google Maps and it said the commute to Herndon from Forestville was 15 minutes less than the commute to Langley.

🙄 so you want to destroy communities over (checks notes). 2 minutes for Herndon Middle and fifteen minutes for Herndon High?

If you want to redistrict for your home values or for DEI reasons, just say that. Because those times are not material to anyone, particularly those who chose to live in the area.

The main reason is the increased housing currently being and recently built in the Tysons area and Langley will have to take on some of that load from McLean and Marshall. They can take on more if some of its western boundary gets moved to Herndon. It may not happen with this round, but as Tysons grows and the condos and apartments keep getting built, it will increase the pressure. You can always push for the illusive new western high school instead. The time savings you mentioned is just gravy.

I’m not super familiar with the area but didn’t falls church just get a renovation? Can’t they also take some excess from McLean/marshall (in addition to Langley taking some McLean)

Yes, Madison and Falls Church HS can also help absorb the edges of Marshall/McLean’s boundaries. BUT if Langley takes the Spring Hill attendance island, they’ll likely take Tysons ES, as the site is within those boundaries, which would give Langley another ES feeder. This is at least a decade off, though, so at least two comprehensive reviews away.

Seems like now is the time to expand McLean. Should’ve been done a long time ago.

It is simultaneously overdue and many years away. Obviously the Dunn Loring money could have been spent expanding Chantilly HS and McLean HS instead, but then they couldn't play around with boundaries as much. The School Board had ample evidence the Dunn Loring project was a waste of money and they chose to ignore that evidence. If they stay on track, in another year they will have spent so much on Dunn Loring that there will be no turning back.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound like you are responding for FCPS or the board. These don’t appear to be “routine” or just “adjustments”. As stated throughout, this is intended to impact every pyramid in a hugh county. Several of the suggestions in the leaked map are contrary their own data. You may be right about the board’s political calculations, but if the last few weeks have taught us anything, it’s that being out of step with families or people’s real interests may actually have some political consequences for them.

The events of the last few weeks are likely to make local residents more supportive of Democrats, not less. Even if you’re frustrated with some of their decisions, they start to look better by comparison. They may deprive you of the public school you were hoping for; the Republicans may take away your job or gut the local economy in ways that would have far more impact on your housing equity than a mere reassignment to Herndon.

This is 💯 false. I hate what Trump is doing to our country and would never vote for any MAGA supporter, but I voted Republican for our school board and will continue to vote Republican in the future. The current school board is completely out of line and not representing their constituents who OVERWHELMINGLY do not want their kids to be redistricted away from the schools and friends that they have grown up with.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You sound like you are responding for FCPS or the board. These don’t appear to be “routine” or just “adjustments”. As stated throughout, this is intended to impact every pyramid in a hugh county. Several of the suggestions in the leaked map are contrary their own data. You may be right about the board’s political calculations, but if the last few weeks have taught us anything, it’s that being out of step with families or people’s real interests may actually have some political consequences for them.

The events of the last few weeks are likely to make local residents more supportive of Democrats, not less. Even if you’re frustrated with some of their decisions, they start to look better by comparison. They may deprive you of the public school you were hoping for; the Republicans may take away your job or gut the local economy in ways that would have far more impact on your housing equity than a mere reassignment to Herndon.

This is 💯 false. I hate what Trump is doing to our country and would never vote for any MAGA supporter, but I voted Republican for our school board and will continue to vote Republican in the future. The current school board is completely out of line and not representing their constituents who OVERWHELMINGLY do not want their kids to be redistricted away from the schools and friends that they have grown up with.

+1

+2. The school board is way out beyond public opinion on this unnecessary boundary change. For Christ’s sake, the best argument that the school board shills can muster is that a school is fifteen minutes further away. What a joke.

[Anonymous]

If they move both the Tysons island at McLean and the Westbriar island at Marshall to Langley, it starts to get Langley up to an enrollment where it wouldn’t be crazy to move Forestville to Herndon. Don’t feel strongly about it. Even though McLean is above capacity now and Marshall would be but for the modular it’s not obvious to me anyone at those schools wants a boundary change.