NYT article: Young, Gifted, and Not Getting Into Harvard

[Anonymous]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/04/29/nyregion/nyregionspecial2/29Rparenting.html?_r=2

[Anonymous]

Why are you just posting a link to a 2007 Article?

[Anonymous]

Yes, this is hardly news. Also, there are many more gifted students in the US than there are seats at Harvard. They can't all go there. Thank goodness.

[Anonymous]

If a student is actually a fit for Harvard, but is rejected... they still get into UChi, Duke, Penn. It's not as if you're rejected from Harvard and end up at some local toilet.

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Anonymous wrote:If a student is actually a fit for Harvard, but is rejected... they still get into UChi, Duke, Penn. It's not as if you're rejected from Harvard and end up at some local toilet.

Like what? Maryland or George Mason?

[Anonymous]

He mentions the ones who didn't get in but doesn't discuss at all what kind of kids are being accepted. That would be interesting.

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Also, "gifted" alone is not a qualification for Harvard. Necessary but not sufficient, as my boss would say.

[Anonymous]

"Young, Gifted, and Not Getting Into Harvard" means one thing for sure...

The kid is Asian or White.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are you just posting a link to a 2007 Article?

It's even more relevant today.

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Anonymous wrote:"Young, Gifted, and Not Getting Into Harvard" means one thing for sure...

The kid is Asian or White.

That is just complete bullshit. I think people who make statements like this must have a very shaky grasp of basic math. There are THOUSANDS of gifted students nationwide. Harvard only accepts about 1900 of them each year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Young, Gifted, and Not Getting Into Harvard" means one thing for sure...

The kid is Asian or White.

That is just complete bullshit. I think people who make statements like this must have a very shaky grasp of basic math. There are THOUSANDS of gifted students nationwide. Harvard only accepts about 1900 of them each year.

yes, but who are they accepting -- and what edge do THEY have. My guess is race/ethnicity is definitely a factor.

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You're breaking the DCUM rules!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Young, Gifted, and Not Getting Into Harvard" means one thing for sure...

The kid is Asian or White.

That is just complete bullshit. I think people who make statements like this must have a very shaky grasp of basic math. There are THOUSANDS of gifted students nationwide. Harvard only accepts about 1900 of them each year.

yes, but who are they accepting -- and what edge do THEY have. My guess is race/ethnicity is definitely a factor.

Yeah, they're white. Thirty percent of Harvard admits are legacies, at a school was overwhelmingly white at the time when the parents of today's applicants were attending. Today's college applicants were born around 1999. Assuming an average parental age of about 35 for your highly educated parents, those kids had parents attending Harvard in the mid-1980s. The percentage of Black students at Harvard then? Under 5 percent.

The single biggest advantage an applicant can have is legacy status, but the group of Black and Latino applicants who can claim that advantage is incredibly low. Thus is privilege perpetuated.

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Legacy status generally only applies to a small percentage of highly-affluent people: the Bushes, the Trumps, etc.

The overwhelming majority of whites and asians either have parents without degrees, or are attending different schools than their parents did, or are attending schools where legacy status is irrelevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Young, Gifted, and Not Getting Into Harvard" means one thing for sure...

The kid is Asian or White.

That is just complete bullshit. I think people who make statements like this must have a very shaky grasp of basic math. There are THOUSANDS of gifted students nationwide. Harvard only accepts about 1900 of them each year.

yes, but who are they accepting -- and what edge do THEY have. My guess is race/ethnicity is definitely a factor.

Yeah, they're white. Thirty percent of Harvard admits are legacies, at a school was overwhelmingly white at the time when the parents of today's applicants were attending. Today's college applicants were born around 1999. Assuming an average parental age of about 35 for your highly educated parents, those kids had parents attending Harvard in the mid-1980s. The percentage of Black students at Harvard then? Under 5 percent.

The single biggest advantage an applicant can have is legacy status, but the group of Black and Latino applicants who can claim that advantage is incredibly low. Thus is privilege perpetuated.

BS. My DS didn't get into Dartmouth where his dad attended but somehow was good enough for Stanford.