ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

GA also considering similar format.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

Clearly the leagues want this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

Clearly the leagues want this.

Leagues dont care. College coaches want this because it makes Club soccer like HS soccer.

The problem is parents pay for events like Showcases. What this means is you cant have players from older teams who didnt pay for the Showcase rostering or playing in place of those that did.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

Clearly the leagues want this.

Leagues dont care. College coaches want this because it makes Club soccer like HS soccer.

The problem is parents pay for events like Showcases. What this means is you cant have players from older teams who didnt pay for the Showcase rostering or playing in place of those that did.

Leagues care otherwise they wouldn't make the change. Logic 101

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

Clearly the leagues want this.

Leagues dont care. College coaches want this because it makes Club soccer like HS soccer.

The problem is parents pay for events like Showcases. What this means is you cant have players from older teams who didnt pay for the Showcase rostering or playing in place of those that did.

Before you say "but they are paying for the showcase"...

Different grade/age showcases are attended differently by scouts. Basically u15 is the one everyeone attends because this is the first time coaches can see the newest group of potential recruits. If you do GY Showcases clubs would basically sell access to u15 Showcases. Certain players might attend 3x and others none at all. Or if they do the u18 Showcases that nobody recruits from.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

Clearly the leagues want this.

Clearly you want this and are pushing for it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

Clearly the leagues want this.

Leagues dont care. College coaches want this because it makes Club soccer like HS soccer.

The problem is parents pay for events like Showcases. What this means is you cant have players from older teams who didnt pay for the Showcase rostering or playing in place of those that did.

Leagues care otherwise they wouldn't make the change. Logic 101

If a league like ECNL stated doing GY showcases players would flock to GA assuming they kept things normal. Theres way more parents with players that pay their dues and play the correct grade than there are crazy parents looking to play down. Parents that pay the bills wont stick around if this is where things go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

Clearly the leagues want this.

Leagues dont care. College coaches want this because it makes Club soccer like HS soccer.

The problem is parents pay for events like Showcases. What this means is you cant have players from older teams who didnt pay for the Showcase rostering or playing in place of those that did.

Before you say "but they are paying for the showcase"...

Different grade/age showcases are attended differently by scouts. Basically u15 is the one everyeone attends because this is the first time coaches can see the newest group of potential recruits. If you do GY Showcases clubs would basically sell access to u15 Showcases. Certain players might attend 3x and others none at all. Or if they do the u18 Showcases that nobody recruits from.

U15? Scouts and coachesare at U14, and U13 as well, for the national-based leagues. Talent ID even U12.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

Clearly the leagues want this.

Leagues dont care. College coaches want this because it makes Club soccer like HS soccer.

The problem is parents pay for events like Showcases. What this means is you cant have players from older teams who didnt pay for the Showcase rostering or playing in place of those that did.

Leagues care otherwise they wouldn't make the change. Logic 101

If a league like ECNL stated doing GY showcases players would flock to GA assuming they kept things normal. Theres way more parents with players that pay their dues and play the correct grade than there are crazy parents looking to play down. Parents that pay the bills wont stick around if this is where things go.

I thought you were all for playing by grade for recruiting? Let's design it for the coaches. This doesn't compute.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

Clearly the leagues want this.

Leagues dont care. College coaches want this because it makes Club soccer like HS soccer.

The problem is parents pay for events like Showcases. What this means is you cant have players from older teams who didnt pay for the Showcase rostering or playing in place of those that did.

Leagues care otherwise they wouldn't make the change. Logic 101

If a league like ECNL stated doing GY showcases players would flock to GA assuming they kept things normal. Theres way more parents with players that pay their dues and play the correct grade than there are crazy parents looking to play down. Parents that pay the bills wont stick around if this is where things go.

I thought you were all for playing by grade for recruiting? Let's design it for the coaches. This doesn't compute.

I am all for playing by grade.

I just dont want older players playing down against players 1-2 years younger.

SY 7/1-8/31 with a rule that Aug birthdays play with their grade gives you all players at a game a certain grade but no holdbacks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

Clearly the leagues want this.

Clearly you want this and are pushing for it.

No, I was pointing out your major flaw. Leagues switching showcases to GY means they want showcases to be GY. And yet you said nobody want this. Basic stuff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

Clearly the leagues want this.

Leagues dont care. College coaches want this because it makes Club soccer like HS soccer.

The problem is parents pay for events like Showcases. What this means is you cant have players from older teams who didnt pay for the Showcase rostering or playing in place of those that did.

Leagues care otherwise they wouldn't make the change. Logic 101

If a league like ECNL stated doing GY showcases players would flock to GA assuming they kept things normal. Theres way more parents with players that pay their dues and play the correct grade than there are crazy parents looking to play down. Parents that pay the bills wont stick around if this is where things go.

I thought you were all for playing by grade for recruiting? Let's design it for the coaches. This doesn't compute.

I am all for playing by grade.

I just dont want older players playing down against players 1-2 years younger.

SY 7/1-8/31 with a rule that Aug birthdays play with their grade gives you all players at a game a certain grade but no holdbacks.

Well, contact the leagues, I guess. I think you're overthinking it, too. That's not what they're saying.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

Clearly the leagues want this.

Leagues dont care. College coaches want this because it makes Club soccer like HS soccer.

The problem is parents pay for events like Showcases. What this means is you cant have players from older teams who didnt pay for the Showcase rostering or playing in place of those that did.

Leagues care otherwise they wouldn't make the change. Logic 101

If a league like ECNL stated doing GY showcases players would flock to GA assuming they kept things normal. Theres way more parents with players that pay their dues and play the correct grade than there are crazy parents looking to play down. Parents that pay the bills wont stick around if this is where things go.

I thought you were all for playing by grade for recruiting? Let's design it for the coaches. This doesn't compute.

I am all for playing by grade.

I just dont want older players playing down against players 1-2 years younger.

SY 7/1-8/31 with a rule that Aug birthdays play with their grade gives you all players at a game a certain grade but no holdbacks.

Based on your logic, if kids can't play against players a bit older than they won't be able to handle playing in college as freshman. Your position adjusts based on your goal. Playing by grade ignores player's ages so your first 2 criteria are a contradiction.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

Clearly the leagues want this.

Leagues dont care. College coaches want this because it makes Club soccer like HS soccer.

The problem is parents pay for events like Showcases. What this means is you cant have players from older teams who didnt pay for the Showcase rostering or playing in place of those that did.

Leagues care otherwise they wouldn't make the change. Logic 101

If a league like ECNL stated doing GY showcases players would flock to GA assuming they kept things normal. Theres way more parents with players that pay their dues and play the correct grade than there are crazy parents looking to play down. Parents that pay the bills wont stick around if this is where things go.

I thought you were all for playing by grade for recruiting? Let's design it for the coaches. This doesn't compute.

I am all for playing by grade.

I just dont want older players playing down against players 1-2 years younger.

SY 7/1-8/31 with a rule that Aug birthdays play with their grade gives you all players at a game a certain grade but no holdbacks.

Well, contact the leagues, I guess. I think you're overthinking it, too. That's not what they're saying.

It's hard to get things through to the powers that be. Unfortunately soccer people arent known for thinking things through. Its mostly meatheads trying to push through the things theyve been told works from other meatheads