ECNL moving to school year part 2

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You think?

74 people explaining to 2 people the differences between 8/1 on the calendar vs 8/1 on the calendar
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Age Group Birth Dates
U3 August 1, 2023 - July 31, 2024
U4 August 1, 2022 - July 31, 2023
U5 August 1, 2021 - July 31, 2022
U6 August 1, 2020 - July 31, 2021
U7 August 1, 2019 - July 31, 2020
U8 August 1, 2018 - July 31, 2019
U9 August 1, 2017 - July 31, 2018
U10 August 1, 2016 - July 31, 2017
U11 August 1, 2015 - July 31, 2016
U12 August 1, 2014 - July 31, 2015
U13 August 1, 2013 - July 31, 2014
U14 August 1, 2012 - July 31, 2013
U15 August 1, 2011 - July 31, 2012
U16 August 1, 2010 - July 31, 2011
U17 August 1, 2009 - July 31, 2010
U18 August 1, 2008 - July 31, 2009
U19 August 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

Below is the same info. But I've removed July 31st because its not needed (leagues allow playing up) and added in grade and game type. This is the information that parents need. Its ironic that we're changing from BY to SY because of trapped players and grade in school. But US soccer wont include grade in school on its matrices.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten
Grade doesn't equate perfectly (=) to birthdates. Always been the problem. Age based is not grade based. Kids go to school at different times, get held back, bounce grades and sometimes go to schools without grades. Birthdays are factual. More importantly, the rules are set by DOB.

The problem is college coaches recruit by graduating year aka grade in school. Which is why you want to play on the correct grade in school team.
But they said they don't care what age group you are in, just be the best player you can be. Remember, the youngest quits. Seems like what you want that Aug kid to do instead of taking your kids spot.

NCAA Division I and II soccer, college coaches generally begin initiating phone calls, emails, text messages, and direct messages on June 15 after a player's sophomore year of high school. Prior to this date, coaches can only send general camp information or non-recruiting materials
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Anonymous wrote:Leagues based the SY rule on DOB not DOB plus grade.

Making charts to change things to the way you want things doesn't work.

Sept. kids not the oldest, August kids are.

It's over.

Im providing factual data in an aligned format. You dont like it because you know that once people associate club level with grade in school. Which everyone will do because it plays a role in college recruiting. That Aug parents will choose to play their kid on the correct grade in school team.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten


It's not factual, there are July kids who will be in lower grades than the ones you are listing. What happens to them?

I cant fix everything. July birthdays will have to play in whatever age defined group they fall in. There are very few schools that actually started in July.

Players in this situation will end up like hold backs. This is because playing down is not allowed.


Can you update the matrix to include this scenario? I'd like to share the matrix with parents on my kids team but want to make sure grade alignment accounts for all the kids

Its already covered.If your school started in July or players were held back they will be older than 8/1 which is the date US Soccer chose to make the oldest for each level in club. If they're older than 8/1 but in a lower grade theres nothing that can be done because you cant play down. They will not be able to play on the "correct" grade i. school team until u18/u19.


But then they can't play on grade until its too late. Are they out of luck for college recruiting?

No but by being misaligned especially misaligned down you're making recruitment significantly harder. Basically you'll be forced to attend college id camps because you'll be ignored at showcases.
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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2026

Age Group Birth Dates
U3 August 1, 2023 - July 31, 2024
U4 August 1, 2022 - July 31, 2023
U5 August 1, 2021 - July 31, 2022
U6 August 1, 2020 - July 31, 2021
U7 August 1, 2019 - July 31, 2020
U8 August 1, 2018 - July 31, 2019
U9 August 1, 2017 - July 31, 2018
U10 August 1, 2016 - July 31, 2017
U11 August 1, 2015 - July 31, 2016
U12 August 1, 2014 - July 31, 2015
U13 August 1, 2013 - July 31, 2014
U14 August 1, 2012 - July 31, 2013
U15 August 1, 2011 - July 31, 2012
U16 August 1, 2010 - July 31, 2011
U17 August 1, 2009 - July 31, 2010
U18 August 1, 2008 - July 31, 2009
U19 August 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

Below is the same info. But I've removed July 31st because its not needed (leagues allow playing up) and added in grade and game type. This is the information that parents need. Its ironic that we're changing from BY to SY because of trapped players and grade in school. But US soccer wont include grade in school on its matrices.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten
Grade doesn't equate perfectly (=) to birthdates. Always been the problem. Age based is not grade based. Kids go to school at different times, get held back, bounce grades and sometimes go to schools without grades. Birthdays are factual. More importantly, the rules are set by DOB.

The problem is college coaches recruit by graduating year aka grade in school. Which is why you want to play on the correct grade in school team.
But they said they don't care what age group you are in, just be the best player you can be. Remember, the youngest quits. Seems like what you want that Aug kid to do instead of taking your kids spot.

NCAA Division I and II soccer, college coaches generally begin initiating phone calls, emails, text messages, and direct messages on June 15 after a player's sophomore year of high school. Prior to this date, coaches can only send general camp information or non-recruiting materials
So your saying that misaligned players can't contact college coaches? Too stupid.
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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2026

Age Group Birth Dates
U3 August 1, 2023 - July 31, 2024
U4 August 1, 2022 - July 31, 2023
U5 August 1, 2021 - July 31, 2022
U6 August 1, 2020 - July 31, 2021
U7 August 1, 2019 - July 31, 2020
U8 August 1, 2018 - July 31, 2019
U9 August 1, 2017 - July 31, 2018
U10 August 1, 2016 - July 31, 2017
U11 August 1, 2015 - July 31, 2016
U12 August 1, 2014 - July 31, 2015
U13 August 1, 2013 - July 31, 2014
U14 August 1, 2012 - July 31, 2013
U15 August 1, 2011 - July 31, 2012
U16 August 1, 2010 - July 31, 2011
U17 August 1, 2009 - July 31, 2010
U18 August 1, 2008 - July 31, 2009
U19 August 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

Below is the same info. But I've removed July 31st because its not needed (leagues allow playing up) and added in grade and game type. This is the information that parents need. Its ironic that we're changing from BY to SY because of trapped players and grade in school. But US soccer wont include grade in school on its matrices.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten
Grade doesn't equate perfectly (=) to birthdates. Always been the problem. Age based is not grade based. Kids go to school at different times, get held back, bounce grades and sometimes go to schools without grades. Birthdays are factual. More importantly, the rules are set by DOB.

The problem is college coaches recruit by graduating year aka grade in school. Which is why you want to play on the correct grade in school team.
College coaches told Eastside they don't care your age group. They will recruit from all HS age groups if eligible, transfers and foreign, and evaluate the player not their team

Bending the truth again.

College coaches dont care about age because they only care about graduating year or grade in school. This determines when they can communicate with players and when they can show up on campus.

This is why playing on the correct grade in school team (and not being misaligned) is so important.


Did someone say Grad Year?

Not GY because you cant play down and 8/1 is the oldest player can be for each level. (No holdbacks)


If it's not grade year, then what is it exactly? Serious question.

SY with players playing up on their correct grade in school team. End result is all players on. the team are the same grade in school and no holdbacks.
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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2026

Age Group Birth Dates
U3 August 1, 2023 - July 31, 2024
U4 August 1, 2022 - July 31, 2023
U5 August 1, 2021 - July 31, 2022
U6 August 1, 2020 - July 31, 2021
U7 August 1, 2019 - July 31, 2020
U8 August 1, 2018 - July 31, 2019
U9 August 1, 2017 - July 31, 2018
U10 August 1, 2016 - July 31, 2017
U11 August 1, 2015 - July 31, 2016
U12 August 1, 2014 - July 31, 2015
U13 August 1, 2013 - July 31, 2014
U14 August 1, 2012 - July 31, 2013
U15 August 1, 2011 - July 31, 2012
U16 August 1, 2010 - July 31, 2011
U17 August 1, 2009 - July 31, 2010
U18 August 1, 2008 - July 31, 2009
U19 August 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

Below is the same info. But I've removed July 31st because its not needed (leagues allow playing up) and added in grade and game type. This is the information that parents need. Its ironic that we're changing from BY to SY because of trapped players and grade in school. But US soccer wont include grade in school on its matrices.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten
Grade doesn't equate perfectly (=) to birthdates. Always been the problem. Age based is not grade based. Kids go to school at different times, get held back, bounce grades and sometimes go to schools without grades. Birthdays are factual. More importantly, the rules are set by DOB.

The problem is college coaches recruit by graduating year aka grade in school. Which is why you want to play on the correct grade in school team.
But they said they don't care what age group you are in, just be the best player you can be. Remember, the youngest quits. Seems like what you want that Aug kid to do instead of taking your kids spot.

NCAA Division I and II soccer, college coaches generally begin initiating phone calls, emails, text messages, and direct messages on June 15 after a player's sophomore year of high school. Prior to this date, coaches can only send general camp information or non-recruiting materials
So your saying that misaligned players can't contact college coaches? Too stupid.

There is a rhythm and schedule for when coaches look at certain teams. Its because that teams players are all in the most recruitable grade. It you're misaligned when you should be on the teams that are receiving the most interest you’re on a team playing in the middle of nowhere that nobody is watching.
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Anonymous wrote:Leagues based the SY rule on DOB not DOB plus grade.

Making charts to change things to the way you want things doesn't work.

Sept. kids not the oldest, August kids are.

It's over.

Im providing factual data in an aligned format. You dont like it because you know that once people associate club level with grade in school. Which everyone will do because it plays a role in college recruiting. That Aug parents will choose to play their kid on the correct grade in school team.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten


It's not factual, there are July kids who will be in lower grades than the ones you are listing. What happens to them?

I cant fix everything. July birthdays will have to play in whatever age defined group they fall in. There are very few schools that actually started in July.

Players in this situation will end up like hold backs. This is because playing down is not allowed.


Can you update the matrix to include this scenario? I'd like to share the matrix with parents on my kids team but want to make sure grade alignment accounts for all the kids

Its already covered.If your school started in July or players were held back they will be older than 8/1 which is the date US Soccer chose to make the oldest for each level in club. If they're older than 8/1 but in a lower grade theres nothing that can be done because you cant play down. They will not be able to play on the "correct" grade i. school team until u18/u19.


But then they can't play on grade until its too late. Are they out of luck for college recruiting?

Being misaligned (especially misaligned down) makes college recruiting significantly harder for players.

Even in BY where trapped players are playing up being misaligned makes things more difficult for players.
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Anonymous wrote:My kid is a misaligned August player. He's also on an advanced track so maybe graduates early. Should we ask to play him 2 grades up? He would surely warm the bench quite a bit.

This is a weird question.

In BY trapped players were playing up. Sometimes you'd hear about them graduating a year early to start playing in college. This occurred because the player was misaligned up and because of this college coaches treated them like a player graduating a year earlier.

In SY if you're misaligned and playing diwn the equivalent od the BY example above would be to hold your kid back in school so the graduated a year later.
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Anonymous wrote:Official and always been correct

Fall 2026

Age Group Birth Dates
U3 August 1, 2023 - July 31, 2024
U4 August 1, 2022 - July 31, 2023
U5 August 1, 2021 - July 31, 2022
U6 August 1, 2020 - July 31, 2021
U7 August 1, 2019 - July 31, 2020
U8 August 1, 2018 - July 31, 2019
U9 August 1, 2017 - July 31, 2018
U10 August 1, 2016 - July 31, 2017
U11 August 1, 2015 - July 31, 2016
U12 August 1, 2014 - July 31, 2015
U13 August 1, 2013 - July 31, 2014
U14 August 1, 2012 - July 31, 2013
U15 August 1, 2011 - July 31, 2012
U16 August 1, 2010 - July 31, 2011
U17 August 1, 2009 - July 31, 2010
U18 August 1, 2008 - July 31, 2009
U19 August 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

This is for next fall when SY starts. Same as above.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten
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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2026

Age Group Birth Dates
U3 August 1, 2023 - July 31, 2024
U4 August 1, 2022 - July 31, 2023
U5 August 1, 2021 - July 31, 2022
U6 August 1, 2020 - July 31, 2021
U7 August 1, 2019 - July 31, 2020
U8 August 1, 2018 - July 31, 2019
U9 August 1, 2017 - July 31, 2018
U10 August 1, 2016 - July 31, 2017
U11 August 1, 2015 - July 31, 2016
U12 August 1, 2014 - July 31, 2015
U13 August 1, 2013 - July 31, 2014
U14 August 1, 2012 - July 31, 2013
U15 August 1, 2011 - July 31, 2012
U16 August 1, 2010 - July 31, 2011
U17 August 1, 2009 - July 31, 2010
U18 August 1, 2008 - July 31, 2009
U19 August 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

Below is the same info. But I've removed July 31st because its not needed (leagues allow playing up) and added in grade and game type. This is the information that parents need. Its ironic that we're changing from BY to SY because of trapped players and grade in school. But US soccer wont include grade in school on its matrices.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten
Grade doesn't equate perfectly (=) to birthdates. Always been the problem. Age based is not grade based. Kids go to school at different times, get held back, bounce grades and sometimes go to schools without grades. Birthdays are factual. More importantly, the rules are set by DOB.

The problem is college coaches recruit by graduating year aka grade in school. Which is why you want to play on the correct grade in school team.
College coaches told Eastside they don't care your age group. They will recruit from all HS age groups if eligible, transfers and foreign, and evaluate the player not their team

Bending the truth again.

College coaches dont care about age because they only care about graduating year or grade in school. This determines when they can communicate with players and when they can show up on campus.

This is why playing on the correct grade in school team (and not being misaligned) is so important.


Did someone say Grad Year?

Not GY because you cant play down and 8/1 is the oldest player can be for each level. (No holdbacks)


If it's not grade year, then what is it exactly? Serious question.

SY with players playing up on their correct grade in school team. End result is all players on. the team are the same grade in school and no holdbacks.
But then it isn't all players in the same grade because many June and July kids are held back. It's a half measure to grade year for some but not all. Doesn't make any sense with all the states having different cuttoffs.
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Anonymous wrote:Leagues based the SY rule on DOB not DOB plus grade.

Making charts to change things to the way you want things doesn't work.

Sept. kids not the oldest, August kids are.

It's over.

Im providing factual data in an aligned format. You dont like it because you know that once people associate club level with grade in school. Which everyone will do because it plays a role in college recruiting. That Aug parents will choose to play their kid on the correct grade in school team.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten


It's not factual, there are July kids who will be in lower grades than the ones you are listing. What happens to them?

I cant fix everything. July birthdays will have to play in whatever age defined group they fall in. There are very few schools that actually started in July.

Players in this situation will end up like hold backs. This is because playing down is not allowed.


Can you update the matrix to include this scenario? I'd like to share the matrix with parents on my kids team but want to make sure grade alignment accounts for all the kids

Its already covered.If your school started in July or players were held back they will be older than 8/1 which is the date US Soccer chose to make the oldest for each level in club. If they're older than 8/1 but in a lower grade theres nothing that can be done because you cant play down. They will not be able to play on the "correct" grade i. school team until u18/u19.


But then they can't play on grade until its too late. Are they out of luck for college recruiting?

Being misaligned (especially misaligned down) makes college recruiting significantly harder for players.

Even in BY where trapped players are playing up being misaligned makes things more difficult for players.
This harder for recruiting things that you need to stick to make that Aug kid not be on your kids team isn't sticking. Because90 percent of recruiting starts from the player and they are keeping with transfers and foreign players. Transfers and foreign players are playing with that "correct" grad class either.
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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2026

Age Group Birth Dates
U3 August 1, 2023 - July 31, 2024
U4 August 1, 2022 - July 31, 2023
U5 August 1, 2021 - July 31, 2022
U6 August 1, 2020 - July 31, 2021
U7 August 1, 2019 - July 31, 2020
U8 August 1, 2018 - July 31, 2019
U9 August 1, 2017 - July 31, 2018
U10 August 1, 2016 - July 31, 2017
U11 August 1, 2015 - July 31, 2016
U12 August 1, 2014 - July 31, 2015
U13 August 1, 2013 - July 31, 2014
U14 August 1, 2012 - July 31, 2013
U15 August 1, 2011 - July 31, 2012
U16 August 1, 2010 - July 31, 2011
U17 August 1, 2009 - July 31, 2010
U18 August 1, 2008 - July 31, 2009
U19 August 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

Below is the same info. But I've removed July 31st because its not needed (leagues allow playing up) and added in grade and game type. This is the information that parents need. Its ironic that we're changing from BY to SY because of trapped players and grade in school. But US soccer wont include grade in school on its matrices.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten
Grade doesn't equate perfectly (=) to birthdates. Always been the problem. Age based is not grade based. Kids go to school at different times, get held back, bounce grades and sometimes go to schools without grades. Birthdays are factual. More importantly, the rules are set by DOB.

The problem is college coaches recruit by graduating year aka grade in school. Which is why you want to play on the correct grade in school team.
But they said they don't care what age group you are in, just be the best player you can be. Remember, the youngest quits. Seems like what you want that Aug kid to do instead of taking your kids spot.

NCAA Division I and II soccer, college coaches generally begin initiating phone calls, emails, text messages, and direct messages on June 15 after a player's sophomore year of high school. Prior to this date, coaches can only send general camp information or non-recruiting materials
So your saying that misaligned players can't contact college coaches? Too stupid.

There is a rhythm and schedule for when coaches look at certain teams. Its because that teams players are all in the most recruitable grade. It you're misaligned when you should be on the teams that are receiving the most interest you’re on a team playing in the middle of nowhere that nobody is watching.
You should try to prove your groundless theories rather than spitting them out without any backing. Funny to imagine how much time college coaches to be wasting if they didn't pick from the kids and club coaches that contact them.
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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2026

Age Group Birth Dates
U3 August 1, 2023 - July 31, 2024
U4 August 1, 2022 - July 31, 2023
U5 August 1, 2021 - July 31, 2022
U6 August 1, 2020 - July 31, 2021
U7 August 1, 2019 - July 31, 2020
U8 August 1, 2018 - July 31, 2019
U9 August 1, 2017 - July 31, 2018
U10 August 1, 2016 - July 31, 2017
U11 August 1, 2015 - July 31, 2016
U12 August 1, 2014 - July 31, 2015
U13 August 1, 2013 - July 31, 2014
U14 August 1, 2012 - July 31, 2013
U15 August 1, 2011 - July 31, 2012
U16 August 1, 2010 - July 31, 2011
U17 August 1, 2009 - July 31, 2010
U18 August 1, 2008 - July 31, 2009
U19 August 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

Below is the same info. But I've removed July 31st because its not needed (leagues allow playing up) and added in grade and game type. This is the information that parents need. Its ironic that we're changing from BY to SY because of trapped players and grade in school. But US soccer wont include grade in school on its matrices.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten
Grade doesn't equate perfectly (=) to birthdates. Always been the problem. Age based is not grade based. Kids go to school at different times, get held back, bounce grades and sometimes go to schools without grades. Birthdays are factual. More importantly, the rules are set by DOB.

The problem is college coaches recruit by graduating year aka grade in school. Which is why you want to play on the correct grade in school team.
But they said they don't care what age group you are in, just be the best player you can be. Remember, the youngest quits. Seems like what you want that Aug kid to do instead of taking your kids spot.

NCAA Division I and II soccer, college coaches generally begin initiating phone calls, emails, text messages, and direct messages on June 15 after a player's sophomore year of high school. Prior to this date, coaches can only send general camp information or non-recruiting materials
So your saying that misaligned players can't contact college coaches? Too stupid.

There is a rhythm and schedule for when coaches look at certain teams. Its because that teams players are all in the most recruitable grade. It you're misaligned when you should be on the teams that are receiving the most interest you’re on a team playing in the middle of nowhere that nobody is watching.
You should try to prove your groundless theories rather than spitting them out without any backing. Funny to imagine how much time college coaches to be wasting if they didn't pick from the kids and club coaches that contact them.

Ignorance and arrogance are a tough combo for you.

Yes, during events like Showcases teams with players that are the most recruitable grades (Sophmore Junior) get scheduled for the middle of the day and on the best fields (where all the college coaches post up)

If you're misaligned you get to play play games at weird times and locations.
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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2026

Age Group Birth Dates
U3 August 1, 2023 - July 31, 2024
U4 August 1, 2022 - July 31, 2023
U5 August 1, 2021 - July 31, 2022
U6 August 1, 2020 - July 31, 2021
U7 August 1, 2019 - July 31, 2020
U8 August 1, 2018 - July 31, 2019
U9 August 1, 2017 - July 31, 2018
U10 August 1, 2016 - July 31, 2017
U11 August 1, 2015 - July 31, 2016
U12 August 1, 2014 - July 31, 2015
U13 August 1, 2013 - July 31, 2014
U14 August 1, 2012 - July 31, 2013
U15 August 1, 2011 - July 31, 2012
U16 August 1, 2010 - July 31, 2011
U17 August 1, 2009 - July 31, 2010
U18 August 1, 2008 - July 31, 2009
U19 August 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

Below is the same info. But I've removed July 31st because its not needed (leagues allow playing up) and added in grade and game type. This is the information that parents need. Its ironic that we're changing from BY to SY because of trapped players and grade in school. But US soccer wont include grade in school on its matrices.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten
Grade doesn't equate perfectly (=) to birthdates. Always been the problem. Age based is not grade based. Kids go to school at different times, get held back, bounce grades and sometimes go to schools without grades. Birthdays are factual. More importantly, the rules are set by DOB.

The problem is college coaches recruit by graduating year aka grade in school. Which is why you want to play on the correct grade in school team.
College coaches told Eastside they don't care your age group. They will recruit from all HS age groups if eligible, transfers and foreign, and evaluate the player not their team

Bending the truth again.

College coaches dont care about age because they only care about graduating year or grade in school. This determines when they can communicate with players and when they can show up on campus.

This is why playing on the correct grade in school team (and not being misaligned) is so important.


Did someone say Grad Year?

Not GY because you cant play down and 8/1 is the oldest player can be for each level. (No holdbacks)


If it's not grade year, then what is it exactly? Serious question.

SY with players playing up on their correct grade in school team. End result is all players on. the team are the same grade in school and no holdbacks.
But then it isn't all players in the same grade because many June and July kids are held back. It's a half measure to grade year for some but not all. Doesn't make any sense with all the states having different cuttoffs.

There are very few schools that start in July. I dont know of any district in the entire US that starts in June.

Holdbacks are older by choice. Clubs do not need to accommodate cheaters.
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Anonymous wrote:Fall 2026

Age Group Birth Dates
U3 August 1, 2023 - July 31, 2024
U4 August 1, 2022 - July 31, 2023
U5 August 1, 2021 - July 31, 2022
U6 August 1, 2020 - July 31, 2021
U7 August 1, 2019 - July 31, 2020
U8 August 1, 2018 - July 31, 2019
U9 August 1, 2017 - July 31, 2018
U10 August 1, 2016 - July 31, 2017
U11 August 1, 2015 - July 31, 2016
U12 August 1, 2014 - July 31, 2015
U13 August 1, 2013 - July 31, 2014
U14 August 1, 2012 - July 31, 2013
U15 August 1, 2011 - July 31, 2012
U16 August 1, 2010 - July 31, 2011
U17 August 1, 2009 - July 31, 2010
U18 August 1, 2008 - July 31, 2009
U19 August 1, 2007 - July 31, 2008

Below is the same info. But I've removed July 31st because its not needed (leagues allow playing up) and added in grade and game type. This is the information that parents need. Its ironic that we're changing from BY to SY because of trapped players and grade in school. But US soccer wont include grade in school on its matrices.

11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007 + younger = Senior
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 + younger = Junior
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 + younger = Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 + younger = Freshman
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 + younger = 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 + younger = 7th grade
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 + younger = 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 + younger = 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 + younger = 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 + younger = 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 + younger = 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 + younger = 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 + younger = kindergarten
Grade doesn't equate perfectly (=) to birthdates. Always been the problem. Age based is not grade based. Kids go to school at different times, get held back, bounce grades and sometimes go to schools without grades. Birthdays are factual. More importantly, the rules are set by DOB.

The problem is college coaches recruit by graduating year aka grade in school. Which is why you want to play on the correct grade in school team.
College coaches told Eastside they don't care your age group. They will recruit from all HS age groups if eligible, transfers and foreign, and evaluate the player not their team

Bending the truth again.

College coaches dont care about age because they only care about graduating year or grade in school. This determines when they can communicate with players and when they can show up on campus.

This is why playing on the correct grade in school team (and not being misaligned) is so important.


Did someone say Grad Year?

Not GY because you cant play down and 8/1 is the oldest player can be for each level. (No holdbacks)


If it's not grade year, then what is it exactly? Serious question.

SY with players playing up on their correct grade in school team. End result is all players on. the team are the same grade in school and no holdbacks.
But then it isn't all players in the same grade because many June and July kids are held back. It's a half measure to grade year for some but not all. Doesn't make any sense with all the states having different cuttoffs.

There are very few schools that start in July. I dont know of any district in the entire US that starts in June.

Holdbacks are older by choice. Clubs do not need to accommodate cheaters.


Wait until you see the U16-19 rules for showcases next year not just ECNL but for all of USYS and US Club.
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