ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Recruiters can't talk to players before Junior year, so the kids will be too young while the rest of the team is eligible. It was one of the main arguments for SY.

Yea, recruiters will choose tier 2 players over Tier 1 MLSN homegrown and what the heck MLSN Academy players as well.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL going small sided U13/14 9v9

Do you have a source you can link?

Im guessing this person is stating this based on the most recent ECNL podcast. It is a really informative one but does not say anything about ECNL making changes. Rather, it talks about how other countries are doing more to stay smaller sided for longer. Anyone with a club that rushes/ goes earlier to 11v11 should listen to this podcast.

If they want to stay small sided longer, there will need to be appropriately sized fields. I agree that the 11 v. 11 fields for U13 are too big, but the 9v9 fields are way too small even at U12.

Agree with your thoughts. Interesting enough, just got back from a DPL trip to Rome and the U13 teams there play I think 9v9 but played 11v11 for these games. Anyway was a really fun trip even though no longer involved with DPL with the club going ECNL now.

ECNL being SY might just make MLS Next Homegrown stronger because there are 2x age groups to choose the oldest players from.

Yes, be prepared for all MLSN1 players to be Q1 as ECNL BY players will switch. MLSN2 is no man’s land now with no chance of upward mobility for Q3/Q4, so those top SY players in MLSN clubs go to ECNL.

MLSN and ECNL made a deal. MLSNH wants all the best BY players to compete internationally as much as possible. ECNL wants the college angle.

MLSN Homegrown international competition is almost zero.

Yes, ECNL wants the college angle, agree, but the question is what the parents/players really want.

The vast majority of Q1/2/3/4 are not interested in "international competition of professional path", they want to use soccer for getting grants at college.

You have no idea what the "the vast majority" want. Stop talking out of your butt.

You moron and ignoramus, MLS is not an interesting league to play profesionally, otherwise would be living in Europe. American youth soccer is oriented 99% towards college, not MLS.

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Anonymous wrote:ECNL going small sided U13/14 9v9

Do you have a source you can link?

Im guessing this person is stating this based on the most recent ECNL podcast. It is a really informative one but does not say anything about ECNL making changes. Rather, it talks about how other countries are doing more to stay smaller sided for longer. Anyone with a club that rushes/ goes earlier to 11v11 should listen to this podcast.

If they want to stay small sided longer, there will need to be appropriately sized fields. I agree that the 11 v. 11 fields for U13 are too big, but the 9v9 fields are way too small even at U12.

Agree with your thoughts. Interesting enough, just got back from a DPL trip to Rome and the U13 teams there play I think 9v9 but played 11v11 for these games. Anyway was a really fun trip even though no longer involved with DPL with the club going ECNL now.

ECNL being SY might just make MLS Next Homegrown stronger because there are 2x age groups to choose the oldest players from.

Yes, be prepared for all MLSN1 players to be Q1 as ECNL BY players will switch. MLSN2 is no man’s land now with no chance of upward mobility for Q3/Q4, so those top SY players in MLSN clubs go to ECNL.

MLSN and ECNL made a deal. MLSNH wants all the best BY players to compete internationally as much as possible. ECNL wants the college angle.

MLSN Homegrown international competition is almost zero.

Yes, ECNL wants the college angle, agree, but the question is what the parents/players really want.

The vast majority of Q1/2/3/4 are not interested in "international competition of professional path", they want to use soccer for getting grants at college.

You have no idea what the "the vast majority" want. Stop talking out of your butt.

You moron and ignoramus, MLS is not an interesting league to play profesionally, otherwise would be living in Europe. American youth soccer is oriented 99% towards college, not MLS.

Hahaha such a loser.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Recruiters can't talk to players before Junior year, so the kids will be too young while the rest of the team is eligible. It was one of the main arguments for SY.

Yea, recruiters will choose tier 2 players over Tier 1 MLSN homegrown and what the heck MLSN Academy players as well.

Skillful and knowledgeable recruiters will make their own selections independently of what “tier” a player is in. They don’t use the evaluations of others to make these types of selections.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Recruiters can't talk to players before Junior year, so the kids will be too young while the rest of the team is eligible. It was one of the main arguments for SY.

Yea, recruiters will choose tier 2 players over Tier 1 MLSN homegrown and what the heck MLSN Academy players as well.

Skillful and knowledgeable recruiters will make their own selections independently of what “tier” a player is in. They don’t use the evaluations of others to make these types of selections.

Yea you're probably right most college coaches and recruiters will want to sort through the bargin bin for players.

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Anonymous wrote:Recruiters can't talk to players before Junior year, so the kids will be too young while the rest of the team is eligible. It was one of the main arguments for SY.

Yea, recruiters will choose tier 2 players over Tier 1 MLSN homegrown and what the heck MLSN Academy players as well.

Skillful and knowledgeable recruiters will make their own selections independently of what “tier” a player is in. They don’t use the evaluations of others to make these types of selections.

Yea you're probably right most college coaches and recruiters will want to sort through the bargin bin for players.

What in your mind is the measurement for bargin bins of youth soccer?

You assuming a kid on the Bethesda MLSN2 team isn't good enough to play in college just because of the label MLSN2?

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Anonymous wrote:Recruiters can't talk to players before Junior year, so the kids will be too young while the rest of the team is eligible. It was one of the main arguments for SY.

Yea, recruiters will choose tier 2 players over Tier 1 MLSN homegrown and what the heck MLSN Academy players as well.

Skillful and knowledgeable recruiters will make their own selections independently of what “tier” a player is in. They don’t use the evaluations of others to make these types of selections.

Yea you're probably right most college coaches and recruiters will want to sort through the bargin bin for players.

What in your mind is the measurement for bargin bins of youth soccer?

You assuming a kid on the Bethesda MLSN2 team isn't good enough to play in college just because of the label MLSN2?

Bargin bin = Tier 2 leagues.

I think we all know what I'm referencing.

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Anonymous wrote:Recruiters can't talk to players before Junior year, so the kids will be too young while the rest of the team is eligible. It was one of the main arguments for SY.

Yea, recruiters will choose tier 2 players over Tier 1 MLSN homegrown and what the heck MLSN Academy players as well.

Skillful and knowledgeable recruiters will make their own selections independently of what “tier” a player is in. They don’t use the evaluations of others to make these types of selections.

Yea you're probably right most college coaches and recruiters will want to sort through the bargin bin for players.

What in your mind is the measurement for bargin bins of youth soccer?

You assuming a kid on the Bethesda MLSN2 team isn't good enough to play in college just because of the label MLSN2?

Bargin bin = Tier 2 leagues.

I think we all know what I'm referencing.

After International transfers and MLS club academies, everything else is bargain basement according to you

[Anonymous]

U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Makes sense. Leaves showcases for recruiting and league play and younger age groups for development.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

GA also considering similar format.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

Clearly the leagues want this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

Clearly the leagues want this.

Leagues dont care. College coaches want this because it makes Club soccer like HS soccer.

The problem is parents pay for events like Showcases. What this means is you cant have players from older teams who didnt pay for the Showcase rostering or playing in place of those that did.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:U16/U17/19 ECNL showcases will be grad year.
So if you’re a an Aug born player but a grade ahead of schedule you will play with your graduating year class for showcases. Same with hold backs from what I was told.

League play and younger age groups will be under a different format.

Nobody wants this.

What will happen is showcases will become like talent IDs where parents of a certain team/grade pay for the Showcase but players hand chosen from 2-3 age groups get to attend.

Just have Aug birthdays play with their grade and everyone thats paying for the event is happy.

Clearly the leagues want this.

Leagues dont care. College coaches want this because it makes Club soccer like HS soccer.

The problem is parents pay for events like Showcases. What this means is you cant have players from older teams who didnt pay for the Showcase rostering or playing in place of those that did.

Leagues care otherwise they wouldn't make the change. Logic 101