Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

Would love to hear from someone who’s actually signed up for this cruise. Do people not realize that most influencers grow to despise their followers pretty quickly? These influencers become so jaded by the inevitable criticism and hate that they get online, mocking and taking advantage of their followers becomes a defence mechanism.

Most influencers, even those with the best intentions at first, become only interested in networking with bigger influencers and stars to raise their own profiles. Influencers know that they *need* the little people’s adoration but they sure as hell don’t respect them.

This pay to “play” with Jen and friends is so transparent, it should almost be fraudulent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Would love to hear from someone who’s actually signed up for this cruise. Do people not realize that most influencers grow to despise their followers pretty quickly? These influencers become so jaded by the inevitable criticism and hate that they get online, mocking and taking advantage of their followers becomes a defence mechanism.

Most influencers, even those with the best intentions at first, become only interested in networking with bigger influencers and stars to raise their own profiles. Influencers know that they *need* the little people’s adoration but they sure as hell don’t respect them.

This pay to “play” with Jen and friends is so transparent, it should almost be fraudulent.

Grifters always despise their marks. Their corneaters.

[Anonymous]

Just listened to the two part podcast with Brandon. Hmmm. Imagine an alternate reality for Jen where her husband, by all accounts is a good, God fearing, decent man. A man who is a sturdy person for her for flighty ways. A man who builds a life with her to include two children from another continent and who is able to (right or wrong) be a force with her when their child comes out as gay, going against the grain of both of their upbringings, to love and support that child and her community. This man gets his moorings ripped out, doesn’t handle it well, hurts people, makes terrible choices, goes to counseling and learns even better how to maximize his ability to be a stabilizing force within his family, goes to his wife and asks if there is a reason he should have hope of fixing his marriage. Wife, a woman who has the capability and capacity to embrace the redemptive nature of THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST for the gay community, also (although EXTREMELY hurt, confused, absolutely destroyed by her husband’s actions) has the capability and capacity to embrace the redemptive nature of THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST for her husband. She takes the time she needs to work through the hurt. Doesn’t rush based on feelings. Recognizes her own part in it. They repent of their sin. They forgive. They return to each other. They restore a broken family. They glorify God in the process, privately at first. People (naturally) want to know more. They share. They don’t sugarcoat. God blesses. Children are blessed. Potential grandchildren are blessed.

Current reality, Brandon has been humbled, continues to heal and move on with another woman, who gets a gem of a man who’s been through some stuff and has learned and will continue to work through his stuff. Works on his relationship with his kids. They see a man who makes mistakes but doesn’t lose his faith, isn’t ashamed of the Gospel, corrects his course. I think he is preaching a better sermon now than probably ever has when he was a pastor.

Jen, promotes dildos (fake man) and gummies (snake oil) and fake relationships (her followers & “boyfriend”), has a fake life that she’s ashamed of so she has to continually oversell/over-exclaim that is causing deep, ongoing anxiety. Blabs her teenage daughter’s life on the internet for content. Blabs about anything she can think of for content on the internet.

I think she’s spiraling like her ex husband was. Hope she can begin the correction before a big tragedy happens. She’s not as well as she thinks she is and it shows big. Lord help her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just listened to the two part podcast with Brandon. Hmmm. Imagine an alternate reality for Jen where her husband, by all accounts is a good, God fearing, decent man. A man who is a sturdy person for her for flighty ways. A man who builds a life with her to include two children from another continent and who is able to (right or wrong) be a force with her when their child comes out as gay, going against the grain of both of their upbringings, to love and support that child and her community. This man gets his moorings ripped out, doesn’t handle it well, hurts people, makes terrible choices, goes to counseling and learns even better how to maximize his ability to be a stabilizing force within his family, goes to his wife and asks if there is a reason he should have hope of fixing his marriage. Wife, a woman who has the capability and capacity to embrace the redemptive nature of THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST for the gay community, also (although EXTREMELY hurt, confused, absolutely destroyed by her husband’s actions) has the capability and capacity to embrace the redemptive nature of THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST for her husband. She takes the time she needs to work through the hurt. Doesn’t rush based on feelings. Recognizes her own part in it. They repent of their sin. They forgive. They return to each other. They restore a broken family. They glorify God in the process, privately at first. People (naturally) want to know more. They share. They don’t sugarcoat. God blesses. Children are blessed. Potential grandchildren are blessed.

Current reality, Brandon has been humbled, continues to heal and move on with another woman, who gets a gem of a man who’s been through some stuff and has learned and will continue to work through his stuff. Works on his relationship with his kids. They see a man who makes mistakes but doesn’t lose his faith, isn’t ashamed of the Gospel, corrects his course. I think he is preaching a better sermon now than probably ever has when he was a pastor.

Jen, promotes dildos (fake man) and gummies (snake oil) and fake relationships (her followers & “boyfriend”), has a fake life that she’s ashamed of so she has to continually oversell/over-exclaim that is causing deep, ongoing anxiety. Blabs her teenage daughter’s life on the internet for content. Blabs about anything she can think of for content on the internet.

I think she’s spiraling like her ex husband was. Hope she can begin the correction before a big tragedy happens. She’s not as well as she thinks she is and it shows big. Lord help her.

Jen has seemed very manic and on edge these past few months.

Her Sherri appearance was super manic and fidgety and all around uncomfortable for all involved.

She seems to be operating on an edge right now. She doesn’t seem at peace AT ALL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just listened to the two part podcast with Brandon. Hmmm. Imagine an alternate reality for Jen where her husband, by all accounts is a good, God fearing, decent man.

Are you bloody serious with this rant??? A “gem of a man”? Other than Jen being the one to file, we know nothing about how the divorce really went down. Like Jen or not, this desperation to put Brandon on a pedestal is super gross.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just listened to the two part podcast with Brandon. Hmmm. Imagine an alternate reality for Jen where her husband, by all accounts is a good, God fearing, decent man. A man who is a sturdy person for her for flighty ways. A man who builds a life with her to include two children from another continent and who is able to (right or wrong) be a force with her when their child comes out as gay, going against the grain of both of their upbringings, to love and support that child and her community. This man gets his moorings ripped out, doesn’t handle it well, hurts people, makes terrible choices, goes to counseling and learns even better how to maximize his ability to be a stabilizing force within his family, goes to his wife and asks if there is a reason he should have hope of fixing his marriage. Wife, a woman who has the capability and capacity to embrace the redemptive nature of THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST for the gay community, also (although EXTREMELY hurt, confused, absolutely destroyed by her husband’s actions) has the capability and capacity to embrace the redemptive nature of THE GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST for her husband. She takes the time she needs to work through the hurt. Doesn’t rush based on feelings. Recognizes her own part in it. They repent of their sin. They forgive. They return to each other. They restore a broken family. They glorify God in the process, privately at first. People (naturally) want to know more. They share. They don’t sugarcoat. God blesses. Children are blessed. Potential grandchildren are blessed.

Current reality, Brandon has been humbled, continues to heal and move on with another woman, who gets a gem of a man who’s been through some stuff and has learned and will continue to work through his stuff. Works on his relationship with his kids. They see a man who makes mistakes but doesn’t lose his faith, isn’t ashamed of the Gospel, corrects his course. I think he is preaching a better sermon now than probably ever has when he was a pastor.

Jen, promotes dildos (fake man) and gummies (snake oil) and fake relationships (her followers & “boyfriend”), has a fake life that she’s ashamed of so she has to continually oversell/over-exclaim that is causing deep, ongoing anxiety. Blabs her teenage daughter’s life on the internet for content. Blabs about anything she can think of for content on the internet.

I think she’s spiraling like her ex husband was. Hope she can begin the correction before a big tragedy happens. She’s not as well as she thinks she is and it shows big. Lord help her.

What a wonderful alternate vision for their lives!
I think what you envisioned could have truly been. It’s not an impossibility. Just thinking what it would have taken - egos set aside, emotions felt and also dealt with, willingness to repent and rebuild, wise counsel from others … they could have been a better example for the world to see how “semi-celebrity Christians” handle life’s upsets.

[Anonymous]

Brandon truly owns it in his two parter podcast.

He doesn’t ever blame Jen once for his behavior.

He up front admits to his own emotional detachment, drug abuse, and infidelity, full stop.

I honestly don’t see how he could have been more honest in his telling of “what happened”.

[Anonymous]

He did not speak about his intentions to save the marriage. He never mentioned that was ever his desire. Jen may have wanted to make it work but he was already too checked out. We don’t know! Unless I missed something completely. I’m so tired of men always getting the benefit of the doubt.

[Anonymous]

This group predominantly has a bunch of thoughtful people in it - questioning honestly about what happened to this influencer family. I appreciate the insightful posts and honesty shared.
So that said, I’m just throwing this out there, any TerKurst followers here want to snark come join the convo over on Reddit!

Grifting, benefiting off others, lavish lifestyles/non-profit salary, messed up lives, yet always self promoting because they have all the answers … sound familiar??

[Anonymous]

Are you bloody serious with this rant??? A “gem of a man”? Other than Jen being the one to file, we know nothing about how the divorce really went down. Like Jen or not, this desperation to put Brandon on a pedestal is super gross.

That’s right. Gem of a man. Some men are not gems, cause the kind of destruction he did and never own it. You don’t build the life and support system they had with a degenerate man. You just don’t. So sorry you hate men and that is all you took from that post. Find his two part podcast and listen. See if you can hear what I’m saying.

[Anonymous]

Jen is so desperately braggy about all her achievements, career, lifestyle, friendships, romances etc. only because she’s so desperately insecure about her achievements, career, lifestyle, friendships, and romances.

Mature and well adjusted people don’t behave this way.

[Anonymous]

Always “on”? Check.
Always oversharing? Check.
Always grifting? Check.
Always shape-shifting (but under the guise of ‘growth’)? Check.
Always desperate for outside validation? Check.
Always trying to monetize their life? Check.
Always emotionally brittle and super sensitive to criticism? Check.
Always trying to social climb? Check.

Jen is an Enneagram Phony with a Vacuous Wing.

[Anonymous]

The bar is so low… how many people here describe themselves as a “tradwife” I wonder. It’s disturbing.

[Anonymous]

I watched the Sherri segment…they keep emphasizing that she’s been through so much in a way that makes it seem like Jen has been through more trauma than the average person.

The exact opposite is true? Divorce is traumatic but she’s lived a very sheltered life compared to almost any person I can think of - and her advice in the segment was while not wrong, basic common sense? And again - shes not even to the 3 year mark of her separation and their divorce might only be official for like 2 years? And she’s all tidied up and healed and processed and over everything and thriving of course.

Media and self help world is so weird and lacks awareness. There are millions of people alive today who have lost everything in war and lived through genocides?? There are women with absolutely nothing who had to flee states with their children to get away from an abusive spouse who might kill them?

But Jen is somehow the guru of life and healing and trauma? If she had a less grandiose and down to earth view of herself in the world and actually went through healing instead of cosplaying it - she could be good at giving advice and direction on going through divorce (which is indeed traumatic, I don’t want to make it seem like it isn’t)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Would love to hear from someone who’s actually signed up for this cruise. Do people not realize that most influencers grow to despise their followers pretty quickly? These influencers become so jaded by the inevitable criticism and hate that they get online, mocking and taking advantage of their followers becomes a defence mechanism.

Most influencers, even those with the best intentions at first, become only interested in networking with bigger influencers and stars to raise their own profiles. Influencers know that they *need* the little people’s adoration but they sure as hell don’t respect them.

This pay to “play” with Jen and friends is so transparent, it should almost be fraudulent.

Grifters always despise their marks. Their corneaters.

Wow I would be mad if something I signed up for as a girls trip now is like bring your partner. I mean I know its not an exclusive boat but it already seemed a stretch. The thing is like 2.5 days tops! Luckily for all involved corn is readily available year round in Texas.