ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Waiting on CST to post their what their ECNL director pal leaks

an ecnl director will not have the info. Anything they say is useless.

They would need to get info from US Club.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldnt you want to change ASAP?

Because change will take a long time. There are too many things that get screwed up by no careful planning. Trapped players is not an issue soccer cares about. I know the parents care but soccer does not.

This! ⬆️.

[Anonymous]

I thought the US Club Soccer meeting was today

[Anonymous]

We have to wait for eastern Nebraska soccer club to leak it on MySpace.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why wouldnt you want to change ASAP?

Because change will take a long time. There are too many things that get screwed up by no careful planning. Trapped players is not an issue soccer cares about. I know the parents care but soccer does not.

Idk, seems like it could be solved in a few weeks. Players come and go on teams on a daily basis and at the end of the day, it's kids playing soccer against other kids. This isn't rocket surgery.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have to wait for eastern Nebraska soccer club to leak it on MySpace.

Strong candidate for post of the day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why wouldnt you want to change ASAP?

Because change will take a long time. There are too many things that get screwed up by no careful planning. Trapped players is not an issue soccer cares about. I know the parents care but soccer does not.

Idk, seems like it could be solved in a few weeks. Players come and go on teams on a daily basis and at the end of the day, it's kids playing soccer against other kids. This isn't rocket surgery.

Can you answer right now every question that will come from every club? Because until they think they have that it would never go live. That is six moths of work. It kind of is rocket science.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have to wait for eastern Nebraska soccer club to leak it on MySpace.

lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought the US Club Soccer meeting was today

Yes but we do not even know if this was a topic or if it was if it was anything more than an update.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Waiting on CST to post their what their ECNL director pal leaks

an ecnl director will not have the info. Anything they say is useless.

They would need to get info from US Club.

Which does not yet have it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Even if they didn’t recommend it. If they just say “we’re going SY in 26/27 with 8/1” most clubs would just do it for next year anyway and play the teams up. For sure all the pre ECNL Ulittles who are all playing up anyway, and the 12s who are about to be trapped next year.

The only exceptions would be maybe teams with a legit chance at a national title next year. Everyone else would want to set themselves up for better performances the following year(s). Plus as everyone has stated it’s probably not that much player movement anyway.

Pre-ECNL U littles are not all playing up. Take northern VA they are in a ECRL Pre-Regional League. They play their league games but except for maybe the top couple of clubs for tournaments they absolutly play their current age. In this imagined scenerio where this league would be SY what happens to all of their clubs other teams that play in a different league that is still BY?

They can bury their heads and play the final season as a BY squad and get killed come next year.

I think this is pretty straight forward. If your club wants to get a jump on things they can, if they don't want to they don't have to. So you can either keep your 14s together on a pre-ecnl team and play them U12 next year, or you can move a couple of fall birthday 13s in with them and play them up U13. In my kids club they would probably look at that as a team by team, league by league decision to see whats best. My youngest girl has already played this year as a 2014 in U11 league with a 2015 on the roster, as a 2014 mixed with 2013s on a pre-ecnl team, and in tournaments both U-11 and U-12 depending on the level of competition.

So current 2014s would skip a year of 9v9 if their club decides to do to SY and play them up in U13 for next fall. Ugh. My kid is a June 2014 birthday on a pre ECNL team and I think that’s too big of a jump for them. I’d rather this take effect the following year when it’s going to 11v11 anyway. I know some of your kids are good enough to skip a year like that, but mine needs that time. I hope there do end up being viable BY and SY options in the long run because if not this year then late spring/early summer 2015s are going to have this same problem…

And do this en masse and watch the serious injuries roll in on a far higher scale and much earlier for players. Serious injuries in youth soccer is already a problem - it will just become worse if everybody is forced to compete at older (and more experienced) ages. Hopefully a lot more thought and planning goes into solutions for transition than the very reckless idea of ‘everybody can just play up’.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if they didn’t recommend it. If they just say “we’re going SY in 26/27 with 8/1” most clubs would just do it for next year anyway and play the teams up. For sure all the pre ECNL Ulittles who are all playing up anyway, and the 12s who are about to be trapped next year.

The only exceptions would be maybe teams with a legit chance at a national title next year. Everyone else would want to set themselves up for better performances the following year(s). Plus as everyone has stated it’s probably not that much player movement anyway.

Pre-ECNL U littles are not all playing up. Take northern VA they are in a ECRL Pre-Regional League. They play their league games but except for maybe the top couple of clubs for tournaments they absolutly play their current age. In this imagined scenerio where this league would be SY what happens to all of their clubs other teams that play in a different league that is still BY?

They can bury their heads and play the final season as a BY squad and get killed come next year.

I think this is pretty straight forward. If your club wants to get a jump on things they can, if they don't want to they don't have to. So you can either keep your 14s together on a pre-ecnl team and play them U12 next year, or you can move a couple of fall birthday 13s in with them and play them up U13. In my kids club they would probably look at that as a team by team, league by league decision to see whats best. My youngest girl has already played this year as a 2014 in U11 league with a 2015 on the roster, as a 2014 mixed with 2013s on a pre-ecnl team, and in tournaments both U-11 and U-12 depending on the level of competition.

So current 2014s would skip a year of 9v9 if their club decides to do to SY and play them up in U13 for next fall. Ugh. My kid is a June 2014 birthday on a pre ECNL team and I think that’s too big of a jump for them. I’d rather this take effect the following year when it’s going to 11v11 anyway. I know some of your kids are good enough to skip a year like that, but mine needs that time. I hope there do end up being viable BY and SY options in the long run because if not this year then late spring/early summer 2015s are going to have this same problem…

And do this en masse and watch the serious injuries roll in on a far higher scale and much earlier for players. Serious injuries in youth soccer is already a problem - it will just become worse if everybody is forced to compete at older (and more experienced) ages. Hopefully a lot more thought and planning goes into solutions for transition than the very reckless idea of ‘everybody can just play up’.

Dumb head, ECNL can just play in their own showcase which most ECNL teams already do anyway.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if they didn’t recommend it. If they just say “we’re going SY in 26/27 with 8/1” most clubs would just do it for next year anyway and play the teams up. For sure all the pre ECNL Ulittles who are all playing up anyway, and the 12s who are about to be trapped next year.

The only exceptions would be maybe teams with a legit chance at a national title next year. Everyone else would want to set themselves up for better performances the following year(s). Plus as everyone has stated it’s probably not that much player movement anyway.

Pre-ECNL U littles are not all playing up. Take northern VA they are in a ECRL Pre-Regional League. They play their league games but except for maybe the top couple of clubs for tournaments they absolutly play their current age. In this imagined scenerio where this league would be SY what happens to all of their clubs other teams that play in a different league that is still BY?

They can bury their heads and play the final season as a BY squad and get killed come next year.

I think this is pretty straight forward. If your club wants to get a jump on things they can, if they don't want to they don't have to. So you can either keep your 14s together on a pre-ecnl team and play them U12 next year, or you can move a couple of fall birthday 13s in with them and play them up U13. In my kids club they would probably look at that as a team by team, league by league decision to see whats best. My youngest girl has already played this year as a 2014 in U11 league with a 2015 on the roster, as a 2014 mixed with 2013s on a pre-ecnl team, and in tournaments both U-11 and U-12 depending on the level of competition.

So current 2014s would skip a year of 9v9 if their club decides to do to SY and play them up in U13 for next fall. Ugh. My kid is a June 2014 birthday on a pre ECNL team and I think that’s too big of a jump for them. I’d rather this take effect the following year when it’s going to 11v11 anyway. I know some of your kids are good enough to skip a year like that, but mine needs that time. I hope there do end up being viable BY and SY options in the long run because if not this year then late spring/early summer 2015s are going to have this same problem…

And do this en masse and watch the serious injuries roll in on a far higher scale and much earlier for players. Serious injuries in youth soccer is already a problem - it will just become worse if everybody is forced to compete at older (and more experienced) ages. Hopefully a lot more thought and planning goes into solutions for transition than the very reckless idea of ‘everybody can just play up’.

Dumb head, ECNL can just play in their own showcase which most ECNL teams already do anyway.

Exactly, the "playing up" would only be for a random tournament, but all teams in the league would have equivalent ages on their roster (90%+ of games). Prior poster has no clue what they're talking about and just building a straw man.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if they didn’t recommend it. If they just say “we’re going SY in 26/27 with 8/1” most clubs would just do it for next year anyway and play the teams up. For sure all the pre ECNL Ulittles who are all playing up anyway, and the 12s who are about to be trapped next year.

The only exceptions would be maybe teams with a legit chance at a national title next year. Everyone else would want to set themselves up for better performances the following year(s). Plus as everyone has stated it’s probably not that much player movement anyway.

Pre-ECNL U littles are not all playing up. Take northern VA they are in a ECRL Pre-Regional League. They play their league games but except for maybe the top couple of clubs for tournaments they absolutly play their current age. In this imagined scenerio where this league would be SY what happens to all of their clubs other teams that play in a different league that is still BY?

They can bury their heads and play the final season as a BY squad and get killed come next year.

I think this is pretty straight forward. If your club wants to get a jump on things they can, if they don't want to they don't have to. So you can either keep your 14s together on a pre-ecnl team and play them U12 next year, or you can move a couple of fall birthday 13s in with them and play them up U13. In my kids club they would probably look at that as a team by team, league by league decision to see whats best. My youngest girl has already played this year as a 2014 in U11 league with a 2015 on the roster, as a 2014 mixed with 2013s on a pre-ecnl team, and in tournaments both U-11 and U-12 depending on the level of competition.

So current 2014s would skip a year of 9v9 if their club decides to do to SY and play them up in U13 for next fall. Ugh. My kid is a June 2014 birthday on a pre ECNL team and I think that’s too big of a jump for them. I’d rather this take effect the following year when it’s going to 11v11 anyway. I know some of your kids are good enough to skip a year like that, but mine needs that time. I hope there do end up being viable BY and SY options in the long run because if not this year then late spring/early summer 2015s are going to have this same problem…

And do this en masse and watch the serious injuries roll in on a far higher scale and much earlier for players. Serious injuries in youth soccer is already a problem - it will just become worse if everybody is forced to compete at older (and more experienced) ages. Hopefully a lot more thought and planning goes into solutions for transition than the very reckless idea of ‘everybody can just play up’.

Dumb head, ECNL can just play in their own showcase which most ECNL teams already do anyway.

Hey dumb head.

Many clubs make a lot of $$$ from tournaments that teams from different leagues attend. What you're advocating for is to just throw all that in the trash and let ECNL completely take that market over with showcases

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if they didn’t recommend it. If they just say “we’re going SY in 26/27 with 8/1” most clubs would just do it for next year anyway and play the teams up. For sure all the pre ECNL Ulittles who are all playing up anyway, and the 12s who are about to be trapped next year.

The only exceptions would be maybe teams with a legit chance at a national title next year. Everyone else would want to set themselves up for better performances the following year(s). Plus as everyone has stated it’s probably not that much player movement anyway.

Pre-ECNL U littles are not all playing up. Take northern VA they are in a ECRL Pre-Regional League. They play their league games but except for maybe the top couple of clubs for tournaments they absolutly play their current age. In this imagined scenerio where this league would be SY what happens to all of their clubs other teams that play in a different league that is still BY?

They can bury their heads and play the final season as a BY squad and get killed come next year.

I think this is pretty straight forward. If your club wants to get a jump on things they can, if they don't want to they don't have to. So you can either keep your 14s together on a pre-ecnl team and play them U12 next year, or you can move a couple of fall birthday 13s in with them and play them up U13. In my kids club they would probably look at that as a team by team, league by league decision to see whats best. My youngest girl has already played this year as a 2014 in U11 league with a 2015 on the roster, as a 2014 mixed with 2013s on a pre-ecnl team, and in tournaments both U-11 and U-12 depending on the level of competition.

So current 2014s would skip a year of 9v9 if their club decides to do to SY and play them up in U13 for next fall. Ugh. My kid is a June 2014 birthday on a pre ECNL team and I think that’s too big of a jump for them. I’d rather this take effect the following year when it’s going to 11v11 anyway. I know some of your kids are good enough to skip a year like that, but mine needs that time. I hope there do end up being viable BY and SY options in the long run because if not this year then late spring/early summer 2015s are going to have this same problem…

And do this en masse and watch the serious injuries roll in on a far higher scale and much earlier for players. Serious injuries in youth soccer is already a problem - it will just become worse if everybody is forced to compete at older (and more experienced) ages. Hopefully a lot more thought and planning goes into solutions for transition than the very reckless idea of ‘everybody can just play up’.

Dumb head, ECNL can just play in their own showcase which most ECNL teams already do anyway.

Hey dumb head.

Many clubs make a lot of $$$ from tournaments that teams from different leagues attend. What you're advocating for is to just throw all that in the trash and let ECNL completely take that market over with showcases

What a stupid jerk. You said ECNL should not play up as they would face "older" team. This is totally a horse shit. ECNL team already play 95% teams with another ECNL team. For this special one year "play up", ECNL can just throw in another showcase. I am not in a position to tell what ECNL should do. I just point out you are a dumb head full of shit.