ECNL moving to school year not calendar

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hearing back door SY for 25.

All teams play up... Trapped players can play whereever at that point. Done Deal.

No mandate violated.

This is dumb. And not a solution for ECNL teams at all.

Right?! There appears to be a significant lack of knowledge about ECNL teams by some (most?) of these comments. Maybe just parents of very young players who are very unaware?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even if they didn’t recommend it. If they just say “we’re going SY in 26/27 with 8/1” most clubs would just do it for next year anyway and play the teams up. For sure all the pre ECNL Ulittles who are all playing up anyway, and the 12s who are about to be trapped next year.

The only exceptions would be maybe teams with a legit chance at a national title next year. Everyone else would want to set themselves up for better performances the following year(s). Plus as everyone has stated it’s probably not that much player movement anyway.

Or they could do a hybrid by bumping up their best couple of players in Q1 and 2 up a year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Will NPL likely follow what ECNL does?

I would assume so, being under the umbrella of US Club.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Even if they didn’t recommend it. If they just say “we’re going SY in 26/27 with 8/1” most clubs would just do it for next year anyway and play the teams up. For sure all the pre ECNL Ulittles who are all playing up anyway, and the 12s who are about to be trapped next year.

The only exceptions would be maybe teams with a legit chance at a national title next year. Everyone else would want to set themselves up for better performances the following year(s). Plus as everyone has stated it’s probably not that much player movement anyway.

Pre-ECNL U littles are not all playing up. Take northern VA they are in a ECRL Pre-Regional League. They play their league games but except for maybe the top couple of clubs for tournaments they absolutly play their current age. In this imagined scenerio where this league would be SY what happens to all of their clubs other teams that play in a different league that is still BY?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hearing back door SY for 25.

All teams play up... Trapped players can play whereever at that point. Done Deal.

No mandate violated.

This is dumb. And not a solution for ECNL teams at all.

Right?! There appears to be a significant lack of knowledge about ECNL teams by some (most?) of these comments. Maybe just parents of very young players who are very unaware?

Yes. I think that. U13 and below.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hearing back door SY for 25.

All teams play up... Trapped players can play whereever at that point. Done Deal.

No mandate violated.

This is dumb. And not a solution for ECNL teams at all.

If the change will happen for Fall 26 how is starting early not a viable option for clubs?
Also ECNL can use the U18 age group.

Maybe for younger age groups. But won’t work for older ages. Many of these competitive teams also have USYNT players — there is definitely going to be needed transition time for structural changes at the older ages.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if they didn’t recommend it. If they just say “we’re going SY in 26/27 with 8/1” most clubs would just do it for next year anyway and play the teams up. For sure all the pre ECNL Ulittles who are all playing up anyway, and the 12s who are about to be trapped next year.

The only exceptions would be maybe teams with a legit chance at a national title next year. Everyone else would want to set themselves up for better performances the following year(s). Plus as everyone has stated it’s probably not that much player movement anyway.

Pre-ECNL U littles are not all playing up. Take northern VA they are in a ECRL Pre-Regional League. They play their league games but except for maybe the top couple of clubs for tournaments they absolutly play their current age. In this imagined scenerio where this league would be SY what happens to all of their clubs other teams that play in a different league that is still BY?

They can bury their heads and play the final season as a BY squad and get killed come next year.

[Anonymous]

Can we start over?
Don't understand the last 390 pages

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Even if they didn’t recommend it. If they just say “we’re going SY in 26/27 with 8/1” most clubs would just do it for next year anyway and play the teams up. For sure all the pre ECNL Ulittles who are all playing up anyway, and the 12s who are about to be trapped next year.

The only exceptions would be maybe teams with a legit chance at a national title next year. Everyone else would want to set themselves up for better performances the following year(s). Plus as everyone has stated it’s probably not that much player movement anyway.

Pre-ECNL U littles are not all playing up. Take northern VA they are in a ECRL Pre-Regional League. They play their league games but except for maybe the top couple of clubs for tournaments they absolutly play their current age. In this imagined scenerio where this league would be SY what happens to all of their clubs other teams that play in a different league that is still BY?

They can bury their heads and play the final season as a BY squad and get killed come next year.

I think this is pretty straight forward. If your club wants to get a jump on things they can, if they don't want to they don't have to. So you can either keep your 14s together on a pre-ecnl team and play them U12 next year, or you can move a couple of fall birthday 13s in with them and play them up U13. In my kids club they would probably look at that as a team by team, league by league decision to see whats best. My youngest girl has already played this year as a 2014 in U11 league with a 2015 on the roster, as a 2014 mixed with 2013s on a pre-ecnl team, and in tournaments both U-11 and U-12 depending on the level of competition.

[Anonymous]

My son is training down tonight; Going to chekck out how the other half lives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:could someone explain why ECNL needs US Soccer? are they locked into them via a contract? legal? shouldn't ECNL be able to govern by themselves. why does us soccer have a say so in ECNL? just curious.

This lists some benefits to members:
https://www.ussoccer.com/federation-services/resource-center/membership

Registration cutoffs aren't in the bylaws, so they likely only need to follow the US Soccer birth year mandate when playing outside their own league.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also the writing is on the wall with ECNL not really caring about other "big" tournaments. They scheduled an ECNL event on Columbus going directly against previously big events like WAGS. Don't need to worry about playing "up" if you never leave the ecosystem.

yep same with the old CASL/VisitRaleigh.com tournament which use to draw a lot of coaches coinciding with the college cup in Cary. now maybe 20 d1 coaches show up. they scheduled and RL tournament during the same time and an ecnl right after it. coaches have to decide.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:could someone explain why ECNL needs US Soccer? are they locked into them via a contract? legal? shouldn't ECNL be able to govern by themselves. why does us soccer have a say so in ECNL? just curious.

This lists some benefits to members:
https://www.ussoccer.com/federation-services/resource-center/membership

Registration cutoffs aren't in the bylaws, so they likely only need to follow the US Soccer birth year mandate when playing outside their own league.

still don't see the benefit.

[Anonymous]

Even if they are discussing it it’s highly unlikely all of Us Club will change for fall. And if it’s just a recommendation to change and play up for Fall 25 that’s a clubs decision. You can always still play BY for a team/club that decides not to change until Fall 26.

I would assume ECNL will go with what US Club and the majority of their teams want to do as well.

[Anonymous]

Why wouldnt you want to change ASAP?