Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:How can you not get sucked in? 💕

I agree!! I love it. They truly seem happy to me!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:No lol. That was someone trying to rewrite the narrative. We would never be psychotic enough to hard launch a first date."----- That is Taylor making a dig at Matty bc of his Gabriette pap walk.

I just looked this woman up. Why does she make that face all the time? She looks like a dollar store Billie Eilish.

Gabriette is very cute when she is in casual clothes and not much makeup though. I have seen videos of her with Matty out and about and at his concerts. She has that young Angelina Jolie’s bone structure and sex appeal.
Better looking than TS imo.

Kind of funny-looking, but she has some interesting sounding recipes on her IG.

Meanwhile Taylor and Travis seem to be making it work. I'm glad she's found someone who appreciates the fact she's TAYLOR SWIFT and isn't intimidated by that.

Do you really think she is intimidating? I just see it as giving up a lot of freedom to be yourself and go out in the world. The trade off isn’t worth it for anyone unless you aim to be famous. I think Travis wants fame more than Matty does. As Marty seems more artist like and Travis more like a fame chaser. I think Taylor and her parents are fame chasing too (that is why her dad wrote she was going to be something (actress,model) if not a singer). Granted Taylor IS extraordinarily famous, but fame is her primary goal. Just like it is Travis’ goal. I don’t see that as Marty’s goal.

There's fame, and then there's what Taylor Swift is experiencing. Sure, she wanted fame as any musician does, but no one could "wish for" this level of fame because it seems 100% unrealistic and unattainable. Now that she has, I think it becomes about managing the fame and the fact that you can't just let anyone into your circle. I think it works in TK's favor that he wants fame. Because he's not upset about it when it comes his way.

Ok, I disagree. I think the level of marketing she and her parents have done (from her first webpage at 12 to her handwriting font, to her cultivating a persona to be friends with her fans) are all selling yourself to achieve a high level of fame. They didn’t think about the downside of their actions very much at all. Until recently.

Ok? So what? Do you know how many kids try to do stuff like this? Have you been on YouTube ever? She has achieved iconic success. She is a billionaire. She is respected by other musicians and in the industry, she is a force. She is likely going to set records for sales and tours that won’t be surpassed. She writes songs. She has won many awards. The woman is wildly successful, talented and again, iconic. She is one of a kind. And if you’re the one saying she’s not as attractive as some internet model who will be long over by 30, I feel sad for you and your reductionist viewpoint of women. Grow up.

Also, I’d rather be the internet model and end up with the man I want (who by the way is worth north of $20 million - not too shabby), than the center of obsession of all the crazies out there and keep doing it all with a broken heart.

Well your none of those. Just a judgy lady sitting behind a keyboard.

What do you know? I ended up with the man I wanted and with a similar net worth, albeit not a literal rock star.

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My biglaw equity partner DH makes one of your husband's net worths every year. What's your point?

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Anonymous wrote:No lol. That was someone trying to rewrite the narrative. We would never be psychotic enough to hard launch a first date."----- That is Taylor making a dig at Matty bc of his Gabriette pap walk.

I just looked this woman up. Why does she make that face all the time? She looks like a dollar store Billie Eilish.

Gabriette is very cute when she is in casual clothes and not much makeup though. I have seen videos of her with Matty out and about and at his concerts. She has that young Angelina Jolie’s bone structure and sex appeal.
Better looking than TS imo.

Kind of funny-looking, but she has some interesting sounding recipes on her IG.

Meanwhile Taylor and Travis seem to be making it work. I'm glad she's found someone who appreciates the fact she's TAYLOR SWIFT and isn't intimidated by that.

Do you really think she is intimidating? I just see it as giving up a lot of freedom to be yourself and go out in the world. The trade off isn’t worth it for anyone unless you aim to be famous. I think Travis wants fame more than Matty does. As Marty seems more artist like and Travis more like a fame chaser. I think Taylor and her parents are fame chasing too (that is why her dad wrote she was going to be something (actress,model) if not a singer). Granted Taylor IS extraordinarily famous, but fame is her primary goal. Just like it is Travis’ goal. I don’t see that as Marty’s goal.

There's fame, and then there's what Taylor Swift is experiencing. Sure, she wanted fame as any musician does, but no one could "wish for" this level of fame because it seems 100% unrealistic and unattainable. Now that she has, I think it becomes about managing the fame and the fact that you can't just let anyone into your circle. I think it works in TK's favor that he wants fame. Because he's not upset about it when it comes his way.

Ok, I disagree. I think the level of marketing she and her parents have done (from her first webpage at 12 to her handwriting font, to her cultivating a persona to be friends with her fans) are all selling yourself to achieve a high level of fame. They didn’t think about the downside of their actions very much at all. Until recently.

Ok? So what? Do you know how many kids try to do stuff like this? Have you been on YouTube ever? She has achieved iconic success. She is a billionaire. She is respected by other musicians and in the industry, she is a force. She is likely going to set records for sales and tours that won’t be surpassed. She writes songs. She has won many awards. The woman is wildly successful, talented and again, iconic. She is one of a kind. And if you’re the one saying she’s not as attractive as some internet model who will be long over by 30, I feel sad for you and your reductionist viewpoint of women. Grow up.

So? She has succeeded in being the most popular celeb of the social media era. It was going to be someone, and not someone of any great talent. No one of substance looks up to her as an artist. She's just really good at getting women of all ages to become fascinated with her low stakes high school level relationships. Whoopee

Who exactly do you define as artists “of substance”? You don’t have to like her music but she writes, produces, plays the instruments, and clearly has a good business acumen. Plenty of other artists simply sing other people’s work.

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Anonymous wrote:No lol. That was someone trying to rewrite the narrative. We would never be psychotic enough to hard launch a first date."----- That is Taylor making a dig at Matty bc of his Gabriette pap walk.

I just looked this woman up. Why does she make that face all the time? She looks like a dollar store Billie Eilish.

Gabriette is very cute when she is in casual clothes and not much makeup though. I have seen videos of her with Matty out and about and at his concerts. She has that young Angelina Jolie’s bone structure and sex appeal.
Better looking than TS imo.

Kind of funny-looking, but she has some interesting sounding recipes on her IG.

Meanwhile Taylor and Travis seem to be making it work. I'm glad she's found someone who appreciates the fact she's TAYLOR SWIFT and isn't intimidated by that.

Do you really think she is intimidating? I just see it as giving up a lot of freedom to be yourself and go out in the world. The trade off isn’t worth it for anyone unless you aim to be famous. I think Travis wants fame more than Matty does. As Marty seems more artist like and Travis more like a fame chaser. I think Taylor and her parents are fame chasing too (that is why her dad wrote she was going to be something (actress,model) if not a singer). Granted Taylor IS extraordinarily famous, but fame is her primary goal. Just like it is Travis’ goal. I don’t see that as Marty’s goal.

There's fame, and then there's what Taylor Swift is experiencing. Sure, she wanted fame as any musician does, but no one could "wish for" this level of fame because it seems 100% unrealistic and unattainable. Now that she has, I think it becomes about managing the fame and the fact that you can't just let anyone into your circle. I think it works in TK's favor that he wants fame. Because he's not upset about it when it comes his way.

Ok, I disagree. I think the level of marketing she and her parents have done (from her first webpage at 12 to her handwriting font, to her cultivating a persona to be friends with her fans) are all selling yourself to achieve a high level of fame. They didn’t think about the downside of their actions very much at all. Until recently.

Ok? So what? Do you know how many kids try to do stuff like this? Have you been on YouTube ever? She has achieved iconic success. She is a billionaire. She is respected by other musicians and in the industry, she is a force. She is likely going to set records for sales and tours that won’t be surpassed. She writes songs. She has won many awards. The woman is wildly successful, talented and again, iconic. She is one of a kind. And if you’re the one saying she’s not as attractive as some internet model who will be long over by 30, I feel sad for you and your reductionist viewpoint of women. Grow up.

Also, I’d rather be the internet model and end up with the man I want (who by the way is worth north of $20 million - not too shabby), than the center of obsession of all the crazies out there and keep doing it all with a broken heart.

Well your none of those. Just a judgy lady sitting behind a keyboard.

What do you know? I ended up with the man I wanted and with a similar net worth, albeit not a literal rock star.

You sound insufferable, and nobody cares. I’m so sure you married a multi multi millionaire. Of course you did. And nobody would rather be a fake model than an actual singer songwriter other than a woman with no self esteem.

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Anonymous wrote:No lol. That was someone trying to rewrite the narrative. We would never be psychotic enough to hard launch a first date."----- That is Taylor making a dig at Matty bc of his Gabriette pap walk.

I just looked this woman up. Why does she make that face all the time? She looks like a dollar store Billie Eilish.

Gabriette is very cute when she is in casual clothes and not much makeup though. I have seen videos of her with Matty out and about and at his concerts. She has that young Angelina Jolie’s bone structure and sex appeal.
Better looking than TS imo.

Kind of funny-looking, but she has some interesting sounding recipes on her IG.

Meanwhile Taylor and Travis seem to be making it work. I'm glad she's found someone who appreciates the fact she's TAYLOR SWIFT and isn't intimidated by that.

Do you really think she is intimidating? I just see it as giving up a lot of freedom to be yourself and go out in the world. The trade off isn’t worth it for anyone unless you aim to be famous. I think Travis wants fame more than Matty does. As Marty seems more artist like and Travis more like a fame chaser. I think Taylor and her parents are fame chasing too (that is why her dad wrote she was going to be something (actress,model) if not a singer). Granted Taylor IS extraordinarily famous, but fame is her primary goal. Just like it is Travis’ goal. I don’t see that as Marty’s goal.

There's fame, and then there's what Taylor Swift is experiencing. Sure, she wanted fame as any musician does, but no one could "wish for" this level of fame because it seems 100% unrealistic and unattainable. Now that she has, I think it becomes about managing the fame and the fact that you can't just let anyone into your circle. I think it works in TK's favor that he wants fame. Because he's not upset about it when it comes his way.

Ok, I disagree. I think the level of marketing she and her parents have done (from her first webpage at 12 to her handwriting font, to her cultivating a persona to be friends with her fans) are all selling yourself to achieve a high level of fame. They didn’t think about the downside of their actions very much at all. Until recently.

Ok? So what? Do you know how many kids try to do stuff like this? Have you been on YouTube ever? She has achieved iconic success. She is a billionaire. She is respected by other musicians and in the industry, she is a force. She is likely going to set records for sales and tours that won’t be surpassed. She writes songs. She has won many awards. The woman is wildly successful, talented and again, iconic. She is one of a kind. And if you’re the one saying she’s not as attractive as some internet model who will be long over by 30, I feel sad for you and your reductionist viewpoint of women. Grow up.

Also, I’d rather be the internet model and end up with the man I want (who by the way is worth north of $20 million - not too shabby), than the center of obsession of all the crazies out there and keep doing it all with a broken heart.

Well your none of those. Just a judgy lady sitting behind a keyboard.

What do you know? I ended up with the man I wanted and with a similar net worth, albeit not a literal rock star.

You sound insufferable, and nobody cares. I’m so sure you married a multi multi millionaire. Of course you did. And nobody would rather be a fake model than an actual singer songwriter other than a woman with no self esteem.

New poster. I'd rather not be famous at all and be with the one I love to be honest.

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Anonymous wrote:Very confused…
Do Taylor Swift fans love Taylor with Travis or with Matty at this moment?

I am a fan, and I prefer her with a smarter, more artistic man. Between those two, Matty would be my choice, not that I get any say in the matter.
Once knows how to ball, the other one knows Aristotle. One is so high school, the other one is the love and loss of her life.
I think if Matty Healy had been ok with all the insanity that surrounded them as a couple, she would have chosen him over everyone and everything else. "I choose you, religiously."

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Anonymous wrote:Very confused…
Do Taylor Swift fans love Taylor with Travis or with Matty at this moment?

I am a fan, and I prefer her with a smarter, more artistic man. Between those two, Matty would be my choice, not that I get any say in the matter.
Once knows how to ball, the other one knows Aristotle. One is so high school, the other one is the love and loss of her life.
I think if Matty Healy had been ok with all the insanity that surrounded them as a couple, she would have chosen him over everyone and everything else. "I choose you, religiously."

Wine moms like Matty.

People who want the best for Taylor like Travis.

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Anonymous wrote:No lol. That was someone trying to rewrite the narrative. We would never be psychotic enough to hard launch a first date."----- That is Taylor making a dig at Matty bc of his Gabriette pap walk.

I just looked this woman up. Why does she make that face all the time? She looks like a dollar store Billie Eilish.

Gabriette is very cute when she is in casual clothes and not much makeup though. I have seen videos of her with Matty out and about and at his concerts. She has that young Angelina Jolie’s bone structure and sex appeal.
Better looking than TS imo.

Kind of funny-looking, but she has some interesting sounding recipes on her IG.

Meanwhile Taylor and Travis seem to be making it work. I'm glad she's found someone who appreciates the fact she's TAYLOR SWIFT and isn't intimidated by that.

Do you really think she is intimidating? I just see it as giving up a lot of freedom to be yourself and go out in the world. The trade off isn’t worth it for anyone unless you aim to be famous. I think Travis wants fame more than Matty does. As Marty seems more artist like and Travis more like a fame chaser. I think Taylor and her parents are fame chasing too (that is why her dad wrote she was going to be something (actress,model) if not a singer). Granted Taylor IS extraordinarily famous, but fame is her primary goal. Just like it is Travis’ goal. I don’t see that as Marty’s goal.

There's fame, and then there's what Taylor Swift is experiencing. Sure, she wanted fame as any musician does, but no one could "wish for" this level of fame because it seems 100% unrealistic and unattainable. Now that she has, I think it becomes about managing the fame and the fact that you can't just let anyone into your circle. I think it works in TK's favor that he wants fame. Because he's not upset about it when it comes his way.

Ok, I disagree. I think the level of marketing she and her parents have done (from her first webpage at 12 to her handwriting font, to her cultivating a persona to be friends with her fans) are all selling yourself to achieve a high level of fame. They didn’t think about the downside of their actions very much at all. Until recently.

Ok? So what? Do you know how many kids try to do stuff like this? Have you been on YouTube ever? She has achieved iconic success. She is a billionaire. She is respected by other musicians and in the industry, she is a force. She is likely going to set records for sales and tours that won’t be surpassed. She writes songs. She has won many awards. The woman is wildly successful, talented and again, iconic. She is one of a kind. And if you’re the one saying she’s not as attractive as some internet model who will be long over by 30, I feel sad for you and your reductionist viewpoint of women. Grow up.

Just because you are famous or have won many awards, that doesn’t mean you are beautiful. I think the PP was talking abbot objective beauty, all else being equal. Taylor is certainly attractive, especially after all the subtle surgeries and alterations she did to her face and body, but she is not gorgeous. Not even close.

Are you people really this shallow??? Also, I am out and about every day in DC and I see very few even moderately okay looking women. I know you all think you’re models who are too intellectual to actually work as such but… you’re not. Every poster on dcum is convinced they are gorgeous, wealthy and look incredibly young. It’s like you don’t have to offer any proof of it so it must be so.

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Anonymous wrote:No lol. That was someone trying to rewrite the narrative. We would never be psychotic enough to hard launch a first date."----- That is Taylor making a dig at Matty bc of his Gabriette pap walk.

I just looked this woman up. Why does she make that face all the time? She looks like a dollar store Billie Eilish.

Gabriette is very cute when she is in casual clothes and not much makeup though. I have seen videos of her with Matty out and about and at his concerts. She has that young Angelina Jolie’s bone structure and sex appeal.
Better looking than TS imo.

Kind of funny-looking, but she has some interesting sounding recipes on her IG.

Meanwhile Taylor and Travis seem to be making it work. I'm glad she's found someone who appreciates the fact she's TAYLOR SWIFT and isn't intimidated by that.

Do you really think she is intimidating? I just see it as giving up a lot of freedom to be yourself and go out in the world. The trade off isn’t worth it for anyone unless you aim to be famous. I think Travis wants fame more than Matty does. As Marty seems more artist like and Travis more like a fame chaser. I think Taylor and her parents are fame chasing too (that is why her dad wrote she was going to be something (actress,model) if not a singer). Granted Taylor IS extraordinarily famous, but fame is her primary goal. Just like it is Travis’ goal. I don’t see that as Marty’s goal.

There's fame, and then there's what Taylor Swift is experiencing. Sure, she wanted fame as any musician does, but no one could "wish for" this level of fame because it seems 100% unrealistic and unattainable. Now that she has, I think it becomes about managing the fame and the fact that you can't just let anyone into your circle. I think it works in TK's favor that he wants fame. Because he's not upset about it when it comes his way.

Ok, I disagree. I think the level of marketing she and her parents have done (from her first webpage at 12 to her handwriting font, to her cultivating a persona to be friends with her fans) are all selling yourself to achieve a high level of fame. They didn’t think about the downside of their actions very much at all. Until recently.

Ok? So what? Do you know how many kids try to do stuff like this? Have you been on YouTube ever? She has achieved iconic success. She is a billionaire. She is respected by other musicians and in the industry, she is a force. She is likely going to set records for sales and tours that won’t be surpassed. She writes songs. She has won many awards. The woman is wildly successful, talented and again, iconic. She is one of a kind. And if you’re the one saying she’s not as attractive as some internet model who will be long over by 30, I feel sad for you and your reductionist viewpoint of women. Grow up.

So? She has succeeded in being the most popular celeb of the social media era. It was going to be someone, and not someone of any great talent. No one of substance looks up to her as an artist. She's just really good at getting women of all ages to become fascinated with her low stakes high school level relationships. Whoopee

Who exactly do you define as artists “of substance”? You don’t have to like her music but she writes, produces, plays the instruments, and clearly has a good business acumen. Plenty of other artists simply sing other people’s work.

Stevie Nicks is a fan. Eddie Vedder is a fan. Lana DR is a fan. Florence is a fan. These are artists of substance, no? The NYT, New Yorker, WSJ have all recognized her as an excellent song writer. I think she’s doing alright. I’m not exactly sure why you feel superior - because you scored this alleged millionaire? You also sound weirdly jealous. Like, I don’t think you’re not a wildly successful artist because you aren’t pushy, but keep telling yourself that.

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Anonymous wrote:No lol. That was someone trying to rewrite the narrative. We would never be psychotic enough to hard launch a first date."----- That is Taylor making a dig at Matty bc of his Gabriette pap walk.

I just looked this woman up. Why does she make that face all the time? She looks like a dollar store Billie Eilish.

Gabriette is very cute when she is in casual clothes and not much makeup though. I have seen videos of her with Matty out and about and at his concerts. She has that young Angelina Jolie’s bone structure and sex appeal.
Better looking than TS imo.

Kind of funny-looking, but she has some interesting sounding recipes on her IG.

Meanwhile Taylor and Travis seem to be making it work. I'm glad she's found someone who appreciates the fact she's TAYLOR SWIFT and isn't intimidated by that.

Do you really think she is intimidating? I just see it as giving up a lot of freedom to be yourself and go out in the world. The trade off isn’t worth it for anyone unless you aim to be famous. I think Travis wants fame more than Matty does. As Marty seems more artist like and Travis more like a fame chaser. I think Taylor and her parents are fame chasing too (that is why her dad wrote she was going to be something (actress,model) if not a singer). Granted Taylor IS extraordinarily famous, but fame is her primary goal. Just like it is Travis’ goal. I don’t see that as Marty’s goal.

There's fame, and then there's what Taylor Swift is experiencing. Sure, she wanted fame as any musician does, but no one could "wish for" this level of fame because it seems 100% unrealistic and unattainable. Now that she has, I think it becomes about managing the fame and the fact that you can't just let anyone into your circle. I think it works in TK's favor that he wants fame. Because he's not upset about it when it comes his way.

Ok, I disagree. I think the level of marketing she and her parents have done (from her first webpage at 12 to her handwriting font, to her cultivating a persona to be friends with her fans) are all selling yourself to achieve a high level of fame. They didn’t think about the downside of their actions very much at all. Until recently.

Ok? So what? Do you know how many kids try to do stuff like this? Have you been on YouTube ever? She has achieved iconic success. She is a billionaire. She is respected by other musicians and in the industry, she is a force. She is likely going to set records for sales and tours that won’t be surpassed. She writes songs. She has won many awards. The woman is wildly successful, talented and again, iconic. She is one of a kind. And if you’re the one saying she’s not as attractive as some internet model who will be long over by 30, I feel sad for you and your reductionist viewpoint of women. Grow up.

So? She has succeeded in being the most popular celeb of the social media era. It was going to be someone, and not someone of any great talent. No one of substance looks up to her as an artist. She's just really good at getting women of all ages to become fascinated with her low stakes high school level relationships. Whoopee

Who exactly do you define as artists “of substance”? You don’t have to like her music but she writes, produces, plays the instruments, and clearly has a good business acumen. Plenty of other artists simply sing other people’s work.

Stevie Nicks is a fan. Eddie Vedder is a fan. Lana DR is a fan. Florence is a fan. These are artists of substance, no? The NYT, New Yorker, WSJ have all recognized her as an excellent song writer. I think she’s doing alright. I’m not exactly sure why you feel superior - because you scored this alleged millionaire? You also sound weirdly jealous. Like, I don’t think you’re not a wildly successful artist because you aren’t pushy, but keep telling yourself that.

I’m totally with you. It’s one thing for someone to say they don’t care for her. That’s their choice. But to say artists don’t respect her work is just false. Plenty of very successful artists speak highly of her talent. Other artists have been successful recording songs she has written for them too. Not sure why so many people come to a thread about her to hate on her.

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Anonymous wrote:No lol. That was someone trying to rewrite the narrative. We would never be psychotic enough to hard launch a first date."----- That is Taylor making a dig at Matty bc of his Gabriette pap walk.

I just looked this woman up. Why does she make that face all the time? She looks like a dollar store Billie Eilish.

Gabriette is very cute when she is in casual clothes and not much makeup though. I have seen videos of her with Matty out and about and at his concerts. She has that young Angelina Jolie’s bone structure and sex appeal.
Better looking than TS imo.

Kind of funny-looking, but she has some interesting sounding recipes on her IG.

Meanwhile Taylor and Travis seem to be making it work. I'm glad she's found someone who appreciates the fact she's TAYLOR SWIFT and isn't intimidated by that.

Do you really think she is intimidating? I just see it as giving up a lot of freedom to be yourself and go out in the world. The trade off isn’t worth it for anyone unless you aim to be famous. I think Travis wants fame more than Matty does. As Marty seems more artist like and Travis more like a fame chaser. I think Taylor and her parents are fame chasing too (that is why her dad wrote she was going to be something (actress,model) if not a singer). Granted Taylor IS extraordinarily famous, but fame is her primary goal. Just like it is Travis’ goal. I don’t see that as Marty’s goal.

There's fame, and then there's what Taylor Swift is experiencing. Sure, she wanted fame as any musician does, but no one could "wish for" this level of fame because it seems 100% unrealistic and unattainable. Now that she has, I think it becomes about managing the fame and the fact that you can't just let anyone into your circle. I think it works in TK's favor that he wants fame. Because he's not upset about it when it comes his way.

Ok, I disagree. I think the level of marketing she and her parents have done (from her first webpage at 12 to her handwriting font, to her cultivating a persona to be friends with her fans) are all selling yourself to achieve a high level of fame. They didn’t think about the downside of their actions very much at all. Until recently.

Ok? So what? Do you know how many kids try to do stuff like this? Have you been on YouTube ever? She has achieved iconic success. She is a billionaire. She is respected by other musicians and in the industry, she is a force. She is likely going to set records for sales and tours that won’t be surpassed. She writes songs. She has won many awards. The woman is wildly successful, talented and again, iconic. She is one of a kind. And if you’re the one saying she’s not as attractive as some internet model who will be long over by 30, I feel sad for you and your reductionist viewpoint of women. Grow up.

So? She has succeeded in being the most popular celeb of the social media era. It was going to be someone, and not someone of any great talent. No one of substance looks up to her as an artist. She's just really good at getting women of all ages to become fascinated with her low stakes high school level relationships. Whoopee

Who exactly do you define as artists “of substance”? You don’t have to like her music but she writes, produces, plays the instruments, and clearly has a good business acumen. Plenty of other artists simply sing other people’s work.

Wow, you've absorbed the Taylor Swift talking points. Tree has done her work well.

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Anonymous wrote:No lol. That was someone trying to rewrite the narrative. We would never be psychotic enough to hard launch a first date."----- That is Taylor making a dig at Matty bc of his Gabriette pap walk.

I just looked this woman up. Why does she make that face all the time? She looks like a dollar store Billie Eilish.

Gabriette is very cute when she is in casual clothes and not much makeup though. I have seen videos of her with Matty out and about and at his concerts. She has that young Angelina Jolie’s bone structure and sex appeal.
Better looking than TS imo.

Kind of funny-looking, but she has some interesting sounding recipes on her IG.

Meanwhile Taylor and Travis seem to be making it work. I'm glad she's found someone who appreciates the fact she's TAYLOR SWIFT and isn't intimidated by that.

Do you really think she is intimidating? I just see it as giving up a lot of freedom to be yourself and go out in the world. The trade off isn’t worth it for anyone unless you aim to be famous. I think Travis wants fame more than Matty does. As Marty seems more artist like and Travis more like a fame chaser. I think Taylor and her parents are fame chasing too (that is why her dad wrote she was going to be something (actress,model) if not a singer). Granted Taylor IS extraordinarily famous, but fame is her primary goal. Just like it is Travis’ goal. I don’t see that as Marty’s goal.

There's fame, and then there's what Taylor Swift is experiencing. Sure, she wanted fame as any musician does, but no one could "wish for" this level of fame because it seems 100% unrealistic and unattainable. Now that she has, I think it becomes about managing the fame and the fact that you can't just let anyone into your circle. I think it works in TK's favor that he wants fame. Because he's not upset about it when it comes his way.

Ok, I disagree. I think the level of marketing she and her parents have done (from her first webpage at 12 to her handwriting font, to her cultivating a persona to be friends with her fans) are all selling yourself to achieve a high level of fame. They didn’t think about the downside of their actions very much at all. Until recently.

Ok? So what? Do you know how many kids try to do stuff like this? Have you been on YouTube ever? She has achieved iconic success. She is a billionaire. She is respected by other musicians and in the industry, she is a force. She is likely going to set records for sales and tours that won’t be surpassed. She writes songs. She has won many awards. The woman is wildly successful, talented and again, iconic. She is one of a kind. And if you’re the one saying she’s not as attractive as some internet model who will be long over by 30, I feel sad for you and your reductionist viewpoint of women. Grow up.

So? She has succeeded in being the most popular celeb of the social media era. It was going to be someone, and not someone of any great talent. No one of substance looks up to her as an artist. She's just really good at getting women of all ages to become fascinated with her low stakes high school level relationships. Whoopee

Who exactly do you define as artists “of substance”? You don’t have to like her music but she writes, produces, plays the instruments, and clearly has a good business acumen. Plenty of other artists simply sing other people’s work.

Wow, you've absorbed the Taylor Swift talking points. Tree has done her work well.

DP. What, exactly, was false in the PP's post? Maybe a better question would be, what, exactly, is your problem?

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Anonymous wrote:No lol. That was someone trying to rewrite the narrative. We would never be psychotic enough to hard launch a first date."----- That is Taylor making a dig at Matty bc of his Gabriette pap walk.

I just looked this woman up. Why does she make that face all the time? She looks like a dollar store Billie Eilish.

Gabriette is very cute when she is in casual clothes and not much makeup though. I have seen videos of her with Matty out and about and at his concerts. She has that young Angelina Jolie’s bone structure and sex appeal.
Better looking than TS imo.

Kind of funny-looking, but she has some interesting sounding recipes on her IG.

Meanwhile Taylor and Travis seem to be making it work. I'm glad she's found someone who appreciates the fact she's TAYLOR SWIFT and isn't intimidated by that.

Do you really think she is intimidating? I just see it as giving up a lot of freedom to be yourself and go out in the world. The trade off isn’t worth it for anyone unless you aim to be famous. I think Travis wants fame more than Matty does. As Marty seems more artist like and Travis more like a fame chaser. I think Taylor and her parents are fame chasing too (that is why her dad wrote she was going to be something (actress,model) if not a singer). Granted Taylor IS extraordinarily famous, but fame is her primary goal. Just like it is Travis’ goal. I don’t see that as Marty’s goal.

There's fame, and then there's what Taylor Swift is experiencing. Sure, she wanted fame as any musician does, but no one could "wish for" this level of fame because it seems 100% unrealistic and unattainable. Now that she has, I think it becomes about managing the fame and the fact that you can't just let anyone into your circle. I think it works in TK's favor that he wants fame. Because he's not upset about it when it comes his way.

Ok, I disagree. I think the level of marketing she and her parents have done (from her first webpage at 12 to her handwriting font, to her cultivating a persona to be friends with her fans) are all selling yourself to achieve a high level of fame. They didn’t think about the downside of their actions very much at all. Until recently.

Ok? So what? Do you know how many kids try to do stuff like this? Have you been on YouTube ever? She has achieved iconic success. She is a billionaire. She is respected by other musicians and in the industry, she is a force. She is likely going to set records for sales and tours that won’t be surpassed. She writes songs. She has won many awards. The woman is wildly successful, talented and again, iconic. She is one of a kind. And if you’re the one saying she’s not as attractive as some internet model who will be long over by 30, I feel sad for you and your reductionist viewpoint of women. Grow up.

Also, I’d rather be the internet model and end up with the man I want (who by the way is worth north of $20 million - not too shabby), than the center of obsession of all the crazies out there and keep doing it all with a broken heart.

Well your none of those. Just a judgy lady sitting behind a keyboard.

What do you know? I ended up with the man I wanted and with a similar net worth, albeit not a literal rock star.

I know that you feel the need to prove something by telling anons you’re with such and such man, meanwhile, you’re bagging on a celebrity that you don’t even know. Hmm.

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Anonymous wrote:Very confused…
Do Taylor Swift fans love Taylor with Travis or with Matty at this moment?

I am a fan, and I prefer her with a smarter, more artistic man. Between those two, Matty would be my choice, not that I get any say in the matter.
Once knows how to ball, the other one knows Aristotle. One is so high school, the other one is the love and loss of her life.
I think if Matty Healy had been ok with all the insanity that surrounded them as a couple, she would have chosen him over everyone and everything else. "I choose you, religiously."

Matty Healy obviously has some level of intelligence if you listen to him speak on certain subjects and you read his lyrics, etc., but it’s also clear that he has a very low level of emotional intelligence. I’m not even talking about the addiction and drugs. I’m talking about the offensive words that come out of his mouth, how he treats the women in his life, All of this has been documented in the media so don’t need to rehash it, but he is a troubled man. I can’t imagine saying you’d rather someone be with someone who you consider to be intelligent as opposed to someone who you think is not intelligent emotional intelligence into consideration.

Travis, of course has a stereotype of not being intelligent and much of that is due to the learning disabilities he has that led him to him struggle in school. Yes, he’s had some issues with drugs, not to the level of MH, but that have impacted his life when he was younger. But the man is super emotionally, intelligent. He’s able to express his feelings, has a strong sense of commitment and love to his family, is philanthropic, and not afraid to show his for those in his life. And on the intelligent note, you may not be well-versed in football, but Travis isn’t only good at football because of his size and raw athletic ability, as a football player you have to memorize a ton of plays and routes so you can be at the right place at the right time. But what makes Travis successful is he not only memorizes his own, he memorizes those of everyone else out on that field so he knows exactly where they will be which allows him to get to a spot on the Field, that may be open based on everything he’s memorized about those plays. There’s a recent article about it and it was pretty interesting. Very rare for a player to do this, or to have the capacity to do that and make decisions in a split second on the fly. Not sure you could call someone who does all that not intelligent, it’s just intelligence used in a different way.