Confederate Battle Flag

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About half the GOP candidates running when initially asked said its a states right issue. Then they changed their tune when Haley stuck her neck out and took action.

Some of you are tone deaf, play dumb, or just dont listen to things. The problem isnt that these candidates are racist. The problem is the pandering that is done to that minority who are or are just ignorant period. I get not trying to lose votes but are the votes of the ignorant and bigoted that much of a crucial voting block. Id like to think that this group of voters is small and seeing how their is so much wavering when it comes to issues like this, it seems like the opposite is the truth.

Hilarious.

GOP candidates say it's a state's rights issue.

Nikki Haley, the governor of the STATE of SC, decides to take action.

GOP candidates then support the governor of the STATE'S decision.

Where did they change their tune again? Where is the wavering? Seems to me they are supporting the governor of a STATE because she exercise - wait for it - state's rights.

Just like segregation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About half the GOP candidates running when initially asked said its a states right issue. Then they changed their tune when Haley stuck her neck out and took action.

Some of you are tone deaf, play dumb, or just dont listen to things. The problem isnt that these candidates are racist. The problem is the pandering that is done to that minority who are or are just ignorant period. I get not trying to lose votes but are the votes of the ignorant and bigoted that much of a crucial voting block. Id like to think that this group of voters is small and seeing how their is so much wavering when it comes to issues like this, it seems like the opposite is the truth.

Hilarious.

GOP candidates say it's a state's rights issue.

Nikki Haley, the governor of the STATE of SC, decides to take action.

GOP candidates then support the governor of the STATE'S decision.

Where did they change their tune again? Where is the wavering? Seems to me they are supporting the governor of a STATE because she exercise - wait for it - state's rights.

Just like segregation.

Which of the candidates wants to put segregation back into states?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is weird that it is flown anywhere outside of private residences. It was the flag of a rebellious treason in the USA. It represents an oppressive regime that sold and purchased black bodies.[/quote\

I have no sympathy for the Confederate flag but I would point out that the flag used by the colonists who were fighting Britain was the flag of a rebellious treason and it was also responsible for purchasing and selling African bodies

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Who said the following recently...

"Are all people who display or own a Confederate flag racist? No.
Are there racists who display and own Confederate flags. Yes.
Can it be offensive? Yes.
Does that mean that all Confederate flags are to be banned or wiped out? Well, of course not. This is America…remember?"

Ok...if you want to read all she has to say I will save you the search...I especially liked her pointing out there were NO RIOTS and people of all colors and creeds came together! She also points out where the confederate flag should never be displayed.

http://yellowhammernews.com/faithandculture/alabama-civil-rights-lawyers-epic-rant-media-targeted-confederate-flag-because-charleston-didnt-riot/

Actually, you'd better do some more reading, there have been several brawls at the SC Statehouse, with violence primarily instigated by confederate flag supporters.

So you didn't read what she had to say or if you did just ignore it?

That comment about brawls was referring to the claim that there were no riots and that people of all colors and creeds coming together. That is soooooo false. It's 99.995% Southern whites who are coming to the defense of the Confederate flag, and it is the Confederate Flag supporters who have been the first to start physically attacking and using violence against others.

You're FOS.

I was just down there, I saw the protests for myself. I did not see one single non-white face among the pro-Confederate protesters. You are the one who is FOS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About half the GOP candidates running when initially asked said its a states right issue. Then they changed their tune when Haley stuck her neck out and took action.

Some of you are tone deaf, play dumb, or just dont listen to things. The problem isnt that these candidates are racist. The problem is the pandering that is done to that minority who are or are just ignorant period. I get not trying to lose votes but are the votes of the ignorant and bigoted that much of a crucial voting block. Id like to think that this group of voters is small and seeing how their is so much wavering when it comes to issues like this, it seems like the opposite is the truth.

Hilarious.

GOP candidates say it's a state's rights issue.

Nikki Haley, the governor of the STATE of SC, decides to take action.

GOP candidates then support the governor of the STATE'S decision.

Where did they change their tune again? Where is the wavering? Seems to me they are supporting the governor of a STATE because she exercise - wait for it - state's rights.

Just like segregation.

Which of the candidates wants to put segregation back into states?

The Confederate flag is directly tied to segregation, as the main reason it saw a resurgence in the south in the 1950s and 1960s is because it was resurrected as a protest flag against civil rights. That's its "heritage" whether you like it or not, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:About half the GOP candidates running when initially asked said its a states right issue. Then they changed their tune when Haley stuck her neck out and took action.

Some of you are tone deaf, play dumb, or just dont listen to things. The problem isnt that these candidates are racist. The problem is the pandering that is done to that minority who are or are just ignorant period. I get not trying to lose votes but are the votes of the ignorant and bigoted that much of a crucial voting block. Id like to think that this group of voters is small and seeing how their is so much wavering when it comes to issues like this, it seems like the opposite is the truth.

Hilarious.

GOP candidates say it's a state's rights issue.

Nikki Haley, the governor of the STATE of SC, decides to take action.

GOP candidates then support the governor of the STATE'S decision.

Where did they change their tune again? Where is the wavering? Seems to me they are supporting the governor of a STATE because she exercise - wait for it - state's rights.

Just like segregation.

Which of the candidates wants to put segregation back into states?

The Confederate flag is directly tied to segregation, as the main reason it saw a resurgence in the south in the 1950s and 1960s is because it was resurrected as a protest flag against civil rights. That's its "heritage" whether you like it or not, whether you want to acknowledge it or not.

What does that have to do with the current group of conservative candidates and states rights? That about law. These candidates obviously respect the law. You want lawlessness?

[Anonymous]

^Ah, the candidates positions and the law?

Here are the ones who to date have been too chickenshit to take a firm position on the Confederate flag:

Rubio
Santorum
Cruz
Huckabee
Jindal
Carson
Fiorina

Some, like Jindal, aren't even willing to admit Dylann Roof's massacre of 9 blacks was racially motivated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^Ah, the candidates positions and the law?

Here are the ones who to date have been too chickenshit to take a firm position on the Confederate flag:

Rubio
Santorum
Cruz
Huckabee
Jindal
Carson
Fiorina

Some, like Jindal, aren't even willing to admit Dylann Roof's massacre of 9 blacks was racially motivated.

What's a firm position to you? That it's racist? That it's not? That it's history? That it's the flag of the KKK?

It seems you simply want a parrot of your particular beliefs, otherwise they are 'chickenshit'.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^Ah, the candidates positions and the law?

Here are the ones who to date have been too chickenshit to take a firm position on the Confederate flag:

Rubio
Santorum
Cruz
Huckabee
Jindal
Carson
Fiorina

Some, like Jindal, aren't even willing to admit Dylann Roof's massacre of 9 blacks was racially motivated.

And is the confederate flag against the law now?

[Anonymous]

Ah yes, the high moral ground to which we should all aspire!

[Anonymous]

I encourage you to read Tony Horwitz's piece.

www.theatlantic.com/author/tony-horwitz
Confederates in the Attic should be mandatory reading in high school. Unfortunately, most of the morons proudly displaying this abhorrent symbol of racism (and treason) are chsllenged by the content of People Magazine. There is no moral equivalency with Revolutionary Flags as there is no recent corollary to Jim Crow. This, however, causes me consider the Tea Party's adoption of the Gadsden Flag in a new light. Does this mean that they oppose the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amenfmdnts and seek to reintroduce a form of indentured servitude?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^Ah, the candidates positions and the law?

Here are the ones who to date have been too chickenshit to take a firm position on the Confederate flag:

Rubio
Santorum
Cruz
Huckabee
Jindal
Carson
Fiorina

Some, like Jindal, aren't even willing to admit Dylann Roof's massacre of 9 blacks was racially motivated.

What's a firm position to you? That it's racist? That it's not? That it's history? That it's the flag of the KKK?

It seems you simply want a parrot of your particular beliefs, otherwise they are 'chickenshit'.

Taking ANY POSITION AT ALL would be "firm" - that's something none of them have done... Just mealy-mouthed wishy washy stuff like "It's up to South Carolina" as though they have zero personal opinion on it, or "They should do the right thing" - while not telling us what they think "the right thing" is...

Really zero leadership or courage among any of the candidates in that list...

Most of the other GOP candidates weren't much better, most of them waited for Nikki Haley to say something first. No opinion? None whatsoever? You needed Nikki Haley to make up your mind for you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I encourage you to read Tony Horwitz's piece.

www.theatlantic.com/author/tony-horwitz
Confederates in the Attic should be mandatory reading in high school. Unfortunately, most of the morons proudly displaying this abhorrent symbol of racism (and treason) are chsllenged by the content of People Magazine. There is no moral equivalency with Revolutionary Flags as there is no recent corollary to Jim Crow. This, however, causes me consider the Tea Party's adoption of the Gadsden Flag in a new light. Does this mean that they oppose the Thirteenth and Fourteenth Amenfmdnts and seek to reintroduce a form of indentured servitude?

The Tea Party's adoption of the Gadsden "Don't Tread On Me" Flag is thoroughly laughable. The Gadsden flag was based on Ben Franklin's famous design depicting the colonies as a snake cut into pieces, with the slogan "Join, or Die" which was advocating for a strong federal union of states, not the weak, decentralized or worse yet secessionist nonsense that the Tea Partiers constantly babble. That theme is again echoed in the 13 rattles on the snake's tail in the Gadsden flag, and the fact that the Gadsden flag was first carried into battle by FEDERAL troops, not fed-haters or "states rights" advocates....

It serves one thing - to put the Tea Party's utter ignorance of history on display, and just goes to show that they are all just relying on rhetoric and groupthink like brainwashed fools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^Ah, the candidates positions and the law?

Here are the ones who to date have been too chickenshit to take a firm position on the Confederate flag:

Rubio
Santorum
Cruz
Huckabee
Jindal
Carson
Fiorina

Some, like Jindal, aren't even willing to admit Dylann Roof's massacre of 9 blacks was racially motivated.

What's a firm position to you? That it's racist? That it's not? That it's history? That it's the flag of the KKK?

It seems you simply want a parrot of your particular beliefs, otherwise they are 'chickenshit'.

Taking ANY POSITION AT ALL would be "firm" - that's something none of them have done... Just mealy-mouthed wishy washy stuff like "It's up to South Carolina" as though they have zero personal opinion on it, or "They should do the right thing" - while not telling us what they think "the right thing" is...

Really zero leadership or courage among any of the candidates in that list...

Most of the other GOP candidates weren't much better, most of them waited for Nikki Haley to say something first. No opinion? None whatsoever? You needed Nikki Haley to make up your mind for you?

Saying it's a state's issue is indeed a firm answer. It's also a correct one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:^Ah, the candidates positions and the law?

Here are the ones who to date have been too chickenshit to take a firm position on the Confederate flag:

Rubio
Santorum
Cruz
Huckabee
Jindal
Carson
Fiorina

Some, like Jindal, aren't even willing to admit Dylann Roof's massacre of 9 blacks was racially motivated.

What's a firm position to you? That it's racist? That it's not? That it's history? That it's the flag of the KKK?

It seems you simply want a parrot of your particular beliefs, otherwise they are 'chickenshit'.

Taking ANY POSITION AT ALL would be "firm" - that's something none of them have done... Just mealy-mouthed wishy washy stuff like "It's up to South Carolina" as though they have zero personal opinion on it, or "They should do the right thing" - while not telling us what they think "the right thing" is...

Really zero leadership or courage among any of the candidates in that list...

Most of the other GOP candidates weren't much better, most of them waited for Nikki Haley to say something first. No opinion? None whatsoever? You needed Nikki Haley to make up your mind for you?

Saying it's a state's issue is indeed a firm answer. It's also a correct one.

Firm? It's "I don't have an opinion, let them do whatever they want and I guess I'll go along with it...." - it's anything but firm.