NYT: Men where have you gone, please come back.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree. Unf many dads don’t talk about anything meaningful with their sons or daughters. Maybe some sports stuff here or there or cliches like Get good grades. But never feelings, life, goals, friend groups, life stories or real advice, etc.

Perhaps in your circles.

My spouse just lectures the girls about the industry sector he works in. Good times.

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Anonymous wrote:When it comes to relationships, well-educated men tend to prefer well-educated women. And vice versa. But in 2025, it can be difficult to find a partner outside college and grad school. Work is a no-go zone these days. The professional risks are far too high to consider flirting or asking a colleague out. And bars and online dating are lame. I can see with my own kids at elite schools that they are locking things down far earlier than my generation. I think there is a general recognition - even among college students - that dating with the intent of a relationship after 26/27 sucks. Everything is about serendipity at that point. With work out of the picture, there's no natural milieu where men and women can meet each other without the "dating" thing hanging over everything. It's difficult in this era for men and women to meet and get to know each other organically.

Thank god for Business School!

I agree. Where else could I have met so many high quality women in a relatively sane environment?

high quality women = boss bit**es. Who would want that at home.

81% of educated men seem fine with them 🤷‍♀️

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Anonymous wrote:I agree. Where else could I have met so many high quality women in a relatively sane environment?

high quality women = boss bit**es. Who would want that at home.

81% of educated men seem fine with them 🤷‍♀️

Yes, those 81% losers/simps. Just because they are "educated" does not mean they are not losers/simps.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree. Where else could I have met so many high quality women in a relatively sane environment?

high quality women = boss bit**es. Who would want that at home.

81% of educated men seem fine with them 🤷‍♀️

Yes, those 81% losers/simps. Just because they are "educated" does not mean they are not losers/simps.
So you think the vast majority of men with more education than you are losers and simps. You think that 81% of educated men who married another educated person are losers and simps.

And you are a single man posting on a mommy website. But they are losers.

[Anonymous]

Amused at all the posters talking about being "educated" simply because of getting a participation trophy (degree) and thinking they are suddenly intelligent.

Don't confuse indoctrination with education. Huge difference.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Amused at all the posters talking about being "educated" simply because of getting a participation trophy (degree) and thinking they are suddenly intelligent.

Don't confuse indoctrination with education. Huge difference.

Perfectly stated

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Anonymous wrote:When it comes to relationships, well-educated men tend to prefer well-educated women. And vice versa. But in 2025, it can be difficult to find a partner outside college and grad school. Work is a no-go zone these days. The professional risks are far too high to consider flirting or asking a colleague out. And bars and online dating are lame. I can see with my own kids at elite schools that they are locking things down far earlier than my generation. I think there is a general recognition - even among college students - that dating with the intent of a relationship after 26/27 sucks. Everything is about serendipity at that point. With work out of the picture, there's no natural milieu where men and women can meet each other without the "dating" thing hanging over everything. It's difficult in this era for men and women to meet and get to know each other organically.

Here we go again. Every DCUM kids are in elite schools. GTFOH.....

+1
Like seriously

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Anonymous wrote:Amused at all the posters talking about being "educated" simply because of getting a participation trophy (degree) and thinking they are suddenly intelligent.

Don't confuse indoctrination with education. Huge difference.

Any don’t confuse higher pay with a better job? Education leads to better pay. Everyone agrees with that.

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Anonymous wrote:Amused at all the posters talking about being "educated" simply because of getting a participation trophy (degree) and thinking they are suddenly intelligent.

Don't confuse indoctrination with education. Huge difference.

Perfectly stated

I can’t believe some lucky lady hasn’t snatched either of you up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Amused at all the posters talking about being "educated" simply because of getting a participation trophy (degree) and thinking they are suddenly intelligent.

Don't confuse indoctrination with education. Huge difference.

You sound poor.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Amused at all the posters talking about being "educated" simply because of getting a participation trophy (degree) and thinking they are suddenly intelligent.

Don't confuse indoctrination with education. Huge difference.

+1
Everybody and their brother has a college degree. You aren't anything special and being obsessed with a degree is very weird. There are a lot of other qualities that are more important in a partner.

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/20/style/modern-love-men-where-have-you-gone-please-come-back.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Wonder what posters here think of this and if things are equal in dc or no?

I would be curious if the author, in addition to her anecdotes, talked to 24, 34 and 44, and 64 year olds.

Moms and Dads: Please teach your sons to flirt! (in a non creepy way of course). I've just been realizing talking to teen dds and their friends. Boys will approach girls these days, but sort of out of nowhere. Like, the girls never thought of them in that way and suddenly he'll ask her out. And it's not that she dislikes the boy, but she just never thought of him like that before. There doesn't seem to be as much innocent flirtation going on. Which is what gets a girl to have a crush on you, which is usually what she needs in order to say yes to her.

I say this because I feel like a lot of these boys put themselves out there to ask a girl out, get turned down, and give up. Not realizing that the whole thing is a dance, they have to plant some seeds first!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/20/style/modern-love-men-where-have-you-gone-please-come-back.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Wonder what posters here think of this and if things are equal in dc or no?

I would be curious if the author, in addition to her anecdotes, talked to 24, 34 and 44, and 64 year olds.

Moms and Dads: Please teach your sons to flirt! (in a non creepy way of course). I've just been realizing talking to teen dds and their friends. Boys will approach girls these days, but sort of out of nowhere. Like, the girls never thought of them in that way and suddenly he'll ask her out. And it's not that she dislikes the boy, but she just never thought of him like that before. There doesn't seem to be as much innocent flirtation going on. Which is what gets a girl to have a crush on you, which is usually what she needs in order to say yes to her.

I say this because I feel like a lot of these boys put themselves out there to ask a girl out, get turned down, and give up. Not realizing that the whole thing is a dance, they have to plant some seeds first!

No sane parent will “teach” their sons to “flirt”. What you liked/did a million years ago is not what is happening today. Also “not is a creepy” is largely dependent on how attractive the girl thinks the guy is.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/20/style/modern-love-men-where-have-you-gone-please-come-back.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Wonder what posters here think of this and if things are equal in dc or no?

I would be curious if the author, in addition to her anecdotes, talked to 24, 34 and 44, and 64 year olds.

Moms and Dads: Please teach your sons to flirt! (in a non creepy way of course). I've just been realizing talking to teen dds and their friends. Boys will approach girls these days, but sort of out of nowhere. Like, the girls never thought of them in that way and suddenly he'll ask her out. And it's not that she dislikes the boy, but she just never thought of him like that before. There doesn't seem to be as much innocent flirtation going on. Which is what gets a girl to have a crush on you, which is usually what she needs in order to say yes to her.

I say this because I feel like a lot of these boys put themselves out there to ask a girl out, get turned down, and give up. Not realizing that the whole thing is a dance, they have to plant some seeds first!

I agree but this is a cultural thing lost on Americans. I'm not so sure you can really each flirting. You are also dealing with women in the US who don't flirt and generally aren't very receptive to guys chatting them up. I will say that it it's very entertaining to see guys in Brazil and Colombia flirt with those chimbitas. It's like a sport

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/20/style/modern-love-men-where-have-you-gone-please-come-back.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

Wonder what posters here think of this and if things are equal in dc or no?

I would be curious if the author, in addition to her anecdotes, talked to 24, 34 and 44, and 64 year olds.

This yearning for "real men" [to return] has been a trope for generations. Example, in the mid 1990s there was this Grammy-nominated top 10 song "Where Have All The Cowboys Gone" by Paula Cole: