FCPS High School Poverty and Enrollment

[Anonymous]

If it doesn’t cost us anything then all parents in the county should be allowed to choose the school of choice for their child.

The argument boils down to advocating for more fringe benefits for military personnel instead of just actually paying them more or actually providing better healthcare.

They chose/volunteered. Did their kids? No. But neither did the kids born to single parent/low income/homeless choose to be born into their situation. That argument doesn’t actually go very far.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it doesn’t cost us anything then all parents in the county should be allowed to choose the school of choice for their child.

The argument boils down to advocating for more fringe benefits for military personnel instead of just actually paying them more or actually providing better healthcare.

They chose/volunteered. Did their kids? No. But neither did the kids born to single parent/low income/homeless choose to be born into their situation. That argument doesn’t actually go very far.

This is exactly right. Some of the PPs are adamant to protect the special fringe benefits military families are getting because they think it’s somehow patriotic to do so, but giving them schooling options denied other families still is poor educational policy. If you want to incentivize people to enlist, teach, or be a doctor in a poor community, just pay them more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If it doesn’t cost us anything then all parents in the county should be allowed to choose the school of choice for their child.

The argument boils down to advocating for more fringe benefits for military personnel instead of just actually paying them more or actually providing better healthcare.

They chose/volunteered. Did their kids? No. But neither did the kids born to single parent/low income/homeless choose to be born into their situation. That argument doesn’t actually go very far.

The cost of choice include, but is not limited to, bus transportation and space (and teacher) allocation. FCPS would spend alot of money if 500 kids per grade chose Great Falls -> Langley and 10 kids per grade chose Hybla Valley -> West Potomac. As a society, I think we provide should some "perks" to those families that serve our country, especially those who make the ultimate sacrifice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it doesn’t cost us anything then all parents in the county should be allowed to choose the school of choice for their child.

The argument boils down to advocating for more fringe benefits for military personnel instead of just actually paying them more or actually providing better healthcare.

They chose/volunteered. Did their kids? No. But neither did the kids born to single parent/low income/homeless choose to be born into their situation. That argument doesn’t actually go very far.

The cost of choice include, but is not limited to, bus transportation and space (and teacher) allocation. FCPS would spend alot of money if 500 kids per grade chose Great Falls -> Langley and 10 kids per grade chose Hybla Valley -> West Potomac. As a society, I think we provide should some "perks" to those families that serve our country, especially those who make the ultimate sacrifice.

DP, but we already do. There’s no need to provide educational choices denied other families.

And PP appears to have been referring to a scenario where people arranged their own kids’ transportation to an OOB school with excess capacity. Not sure that’s desirable from an educational perspective, since only some families are in a position to arrange for transportation, but it’s not as obviously discriminatory as giving military families choices denied others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DP. It seems to me that FCPS does fine by military families but there’s still a legitimate discussion to be had as to whether military families living at Ft. Belvoir should effectively have pupil placement options not available to other non-military families.

Of course the military kids should have this ability.

My goodness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. It seems to me that FCPS does fine by military families but there’s still a legitimate discussion to be had as to whether military families living at Ft. Belvoir should effectively have pupil placement options not available to other non-military families.

What is your objection? I think PP is the least we can do. It likely kept Ft Belvoir out of the boundary discussion when South County boundaries were being discussed.

My objection is giving military families living at Ft. Belvoir special pupil placement options that are not available to civilian families. It does not seem necessary.

What a silly post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If it doesn’t cost us anything then all parents in the county should be allowed to choose the school of choice for their child.

The argument boils down to advocating for more fringe benefits for military personnel instead of just actually paying them more or actually providing better healthcare.

They chose/volunteered. Did their kids? No. But neither did the kids born to single parent/low income/homeless choose to be born into their situation. That argument doesn’t actually go very far.

The cost of choice include, but is not limited to, bus transportation and space (and teacher) allocation. FCPS would spend alot of money if 500 kids per grade chose Great Falls -> Langley and 10 kids per grade chose Hybla Valley -> West Potomac. As a society, I think we provide should some "perks" to those families that serve our country, especially those who make the ultimate sacrifice.

DP, but we already do. There’s no need to provide educational choices denied other families.

And PP appears to have been referring to a scenario where people arranged their own kids’ transportation to an OOB school with excess capacity. Not sure that’s desirable from an educational perspective, since only some families are in a position to arrange for transportation, but it’s not as obviously discriminatory as giving military families choices denied others.

It is not discriminatory. Geez.

Anyone, including you, can enlist in the military.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. It seems to me that FCPS does fine by military families but there’s still a legitimate discussion to be had as to whether military families living at Ft. Belvoir should effectively have pupil placement options not available to other non-military families.

What is your objection? I think PP is the least we can do. It likely kept Ft Belvoir out of the boundary discussion when South County boundaries were being discussed.

My objection is giving military families living at Ft. Belvoir special pupil placement options that are not available to civilian families. It does not seem necessary.

What a silly post.

You don’t seem to have much other than vapid one-liners at your disposal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. It seems to me that FCPS does fine by military families but there’s still a legitimate discussion to be had as to whether military families living at Ft. Belvoir should effectively have pupil placement options not available to other non-military families.

Of course the military kids should have this ability.

My goodness.

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I am against special options given to one group of kids vs another (AAP vs Gen Ed). However, when it comes to military families, I think they should definitely get first priority pupil placements - over everyone else. They have earned it. No one else should get special choices, just military families and their kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. It seems to me that FCPS does fine by military families but there’s still a legitimate discussion to be had as to whether military families living at Ft. Belvoir should effectively have pupil placement options not available to other non-military families.

Of course the military kids should have this ability.

My goodness.

+1
I am against special options given to one group of kids vs another (AAP vs Gen Ed). However, when it comes to military families, I think they should definitely get first priority pupil placements - over everyone else. They have earned it. No one else should get special choices, just military families and their kids.

You’re against special options given to one group of kids vs. another, unless they are military kids?

You are being facetious, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. It seems to me that FCPS does fine by military families but there’s still a legitimate discussion to be had as to whether military families living at Ft. Belvoir should effectively have pupil placement options not available to other non-military families.

Of course the military kids should have this ability.

My goodness.

+1
I am against special options given to one group of kids vs another (AAP vs Gen Ed). However, when it comes to military families, I think they should definitely get first priority pupil placements - over everyone else. They have earned it. No one else should get special choices, just military families and their kids.

You’re against special options given to one group of kids vs. another, unless they are military kids?

You are being facetious, right?

Getting stationed at Fort Belvoir is very different than a person voluntarily purchasing in Silverbrook knowing that the house is zoned for Lewis, or a home on the other side of Belvoir knowing you are zoned for Mount Vernon, then complaining that you are zoned for Lewis or MV and wanting special treatment to send your kids to a different school, or trying to push through redistricting other people who made sacrifices to buy a more expensive home so you don't have to go to the school you picked when you bought your house.

The military kid station at Belvoir is an extraordinary situation.

The other person made an educated housing choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DP. It seems to me that FCPS does fine by military families but there’s still a legitimate discussion to be had as to whether military families living at Ft. Belvoir should effectively have pupil placement options not available to other non-military families.

Of course the military kids should have this ability.

My goodness.

+1
I am against special options given to one group of kids vs another (AAP vs Gen Ed). However, when it comes to military families, I think they should definitely get first priority pupil placements - over everyone else. They have earned it. No one else should get special choices, just military families and their kids.

You’re against special options given to one group of kids vs. another, unless they are military kids?

You are being facetious, right?

Getting stationed at Fort Belvoir is very different than a person voluntarily purchasing in Silverbrook knowing that the house is zoned for Lewis, or a home on the other side of Belvoir knowing you are zoned for Mount Vernon, then complaining that you are zoned for Lewis or MV and wanting special treatment to send your kids to a different school, or trying to push through redistricting other people who made sacrifices to buy a more expensive home so you don't have to go to the school you picked when you bought your house.

The military kid station at Belvoir is an extraordinary situation.

The other person made an educated housing choice.

All these kids deserve a public education, but military kids don’t deserve preferential treatment.

[Anonymous]

They already get housing subsidies and food subsidies to live here.

[Anonymous]

The military should put pressure on FCPS to make another high school down their AP. That would actually be helpful for all

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The military should put pressure on FCPS to make another high school down their AP. That would actually be helpful for all

The problem is the poverty rate at the school, not the lack of AP