Petition to bring back SROs

[Anonymous]

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That's great! And all, but meanwhile SROs at parkland and uvalde sit by while students are gunned down. They just don't help reduce school violence.

Look, I'm not a huge fan of American policing, but this is just terrible logic. Violence at schools is not limited to mass shootings, and most of our kids are far more likely to run into something less horrific but still traumatic.

No, SROs are not historically great in situations of mass murder, but we don't have an answer for that other than comprehensive gun control.

But for the day-to-day violence that is currently occurring in MCPS high schools, stopping short of some kid with an AR-15, SROs can and should be one part of a larger set of solutions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There should be an SRO officer at every high school and middle school.

+1 yes, and I'm fine with them walking the hallways.

since they only make schools less safe it's kind of a bad idea

Post proof, and it can’t be about Parkland or Uvalde. Bonus points if your data is actually related to MCPS, since that’s the subject of this thread.

MCPS SROs are no different than azarose every place else this isn't magic. Cases like parkland and uvalde show that they are not effective in these dangerous situations, nor do they indicate that they make schools in any way safer for our children

I’m a teacher. In one case, I watched an SRO calmly take a 16-18 inch knife off one of my students. I watched as the student admitted to the officer he planned to use it on another student at the end of the school day. In another case, I watched an SRO respond to a student who was stranded with a pair of scissors. He administered the aid. In a third case, I watched an SRO talk to a distressed student about something that occurred the day prior, and helped the student calmly resolve the matter.

There was no press for any of these occasions. That’s a shame, too, because the narrative about SROs is remarkably unbalanced. I’m 100% in support of SROs because I’ve seen first hand (multiple times) the good they can bring to our community.

I’ve often wondered how many interactions the loudest among us have actually had with SROs.

MCPS HS pricnipals were also universally in favor of keeping SROS, but they were overruled by activist voices and Elrich and Jawando.

Never been a fan of Jawando but at least he got this right. All the research shows that SROs make schools less safe.

I’ll fix this for you:
All the research Jawando decided to look at shows SROs make schools less safe.

Interestingly, PGCPS went the other way and kept SROs. They surveyed the whole community and 80% of students and staff said they wanted SROs to remain. The research they presented showed the positive value of SROs on a community.

But the MCPS removal was all Cherry-picked data and minuscule focus groups.

And PGCPS is majority black, so the idea that black people universally hate or are made uncomfortable by the police is false.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should be an SRO officer at every high school and middle school.

+1 yes, and I'm fine with them walking the hallways.

since they only make schools less safe it's kind of a bad idea

Post proof, and it can’t be about Parkland or Uvalde. Bonus points if your data is actually related to MCPS, since that’s the subject of this thread.

MCPS SROs are no different than azarose every place else this isn't magic. Cases like parkland and uvalde show that they are not effective in these dangerous situations, nor do they indicate that they make schools in any way safer for our children

Yep, it's been conclusively shown they don't make schools safer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

That's great! And all, but meanwhile SROs at parkland and uvalde sit by while students are gunned down. They just don't help reduce school violence.

Look, I'm not a huge fan of American policing, but this is just terrible logic. Violence at schools is not limited to mass shootings, and most of our kids are far more likely to run into something less horrific but still traumatic.

No, SROs are not historically great in situations of mass murder, but we don't have an answer for that other than comprehensive gun control.

But for the day-to-day violence that is currently occurring in MCPS high schools, stopping short of some kid with an AR-15, SROs can and should be one part of a larger set of solutions.

+1 100% agree. Well said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should be an SRO officer at every high school and middle school.

+1 yes, and I'm fine with them walking the hallways.

since they only make schools less safe it's kind of a bad idea

Post proof, and it can’t be about Parkland or Uvalde. Bonus points if your data is actually related to MCPS, since that’s the subject of this thread.

MCPS SROs are no different than azarose every place else this isn't magic. Cases like parkland and uvalde show that they are not effective in these dangerous situations, nor do they indicate that they make schools in any way safer for our children

Yep, it's been conclusively shown they don't make schools safer.

Principals want SROs. Only the progressive kumbaya RJ lovers who want to defund the police don't want SROs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should be an SRO officer at every high school and middle school.

+1 yes, and I'm fine with them walking the hallways.

since they only make schools less safe it's kind of a bad idea

Post proof, and it can’t be about Parkland or Uvalde. Bonus points if your data is actually related to MCPS, since that’s the subject of this thread.

MCPS SROs are no different than azarose every place else this isn't magic. Cases like parkland and uvalde show that they are not effective in these dangerous situations, nor do they indicate that they make schools in any way safer for our children

Yep, it's been conclusively shown they don't make schools safer.

Principals want SROs. Only the progressive kumbaya RJ lovers who want to defund the police don't want SROs.

Our principal doesn't want SROs. They said SROs make schools less safe. They certainly didn't help at Parkland or Uvalde.

[Anonymous]

Is there a petition to keep schools SRO free?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there a petition to keep schools SRO free?

It's the status quo and I dont' think there are any proposals (by Council members) to add them back in. Why would there be a petition in favor of the status quo when there are no firm proposals to change it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should be an SRO officer at every high school and middle school.

+1 yes, and I'm fine with them walking the hallways.

since they only make schools less safe it's kind of a bad idea

Post proof, and it can’t be about Parkland or Uvalde. Bonus points if your data is actually related to MCPS, since that’s the subject of this thread.

MCPS SROs are no different than azarose every place else this isn't magic. Cases like parkland and uvalde show that they are not effective in these dangerous situations, nor do they indicate that they make schools in any way safer for our children

I’m a teacher. In one case, I watched an SRO calmly take a 16-18 inch knife off one of my students. I watched as the student admitted to the officer he planned to use it on another student at the end of the school day. In another case, I watched an SRO respond to a student who was stranded with a pair of scissors. He administered the aid. In a third case, I watched an SRO talk to a distressed student about something that occurred the day prior, and helped the student calmly resolve the matter.

There was no press for any of these occasions. That’s a shame, too, because the narrative about SROs is remarkably unbalanced. I’m 100% in support of SROs because I’ve seen first hand (multiple times) the good they can bring to our community.

I’ve often wondered how many interactions the loudest among us have actually had with SROs.

MCPS HS pricnipals were also universally in favor of keeping SROS, but they were overruled by activist voices and Elrich and Jawando.

HS principals want to leave enforcement to the police department not the security staff principals oversee.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should be an SRO officer at every high school and middle school.

+1 yes, and I'm fine with them walking the hallways.

since they only make schools less safe it's kind of a bad idea

Post proof, and it can’t be about Parkland or Uvalde. Bonus points if your data is actually related to MCPS, since that’s the subject of this thread.

MCPS SROs are no different than azarose every place else this isn't magic. Cases like parkland and uvalde show that they are not effective in these dangerous situations, nor do they indicate that they make schools in any way safer for our children

I’m a teacher. In one case, I watched an SRO calmly take a 16-18 inch knife off one of my students. I watched as the student admitted to the officer he planned to use it on another student at the end of the school day. In another case, I watched an SRO respond to a student who was stranded with a pair of scissors. He administered the aid. In a third case, I watched an SRO talk to a distressed student about something that occurred the day prior, and helped the student calmly resolve the matter.

There was no press for any of these occasions. That’s a shame, too, because the narrative about SROs is remarkably unbalanced. I’m 100% in support of SROs because I’ve seen first hand (multiple times) the good they can bring to our community.

I’ve often wondered how many interactions the loudest among us have actually had with SROs.

MCPS HS pricnipals were also universally in favor of keeping SROS, but they were overruled by activist voices and Elrich and Jawando.

HS principals want to leave enforcement to the police department not the security staff principals oversee.

And yet only 9 arrests were initiated by SROs in the most recent year with data, out of 168. Looks like the administrations did the majority of the enforcement anyway.

The truth doesn’t match what the council and exec decided to present. SROs were removed because Reimer and Jawando pushed a narrative.

https://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/pol/Resources/Files/SRO/MCPD-SRO-FAQ.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a petition to keep schools SRO free?

It's the status quo and I dont' think there are any proposals (by Council members) to add them back in. Why would there be a petition in favor of the status quo when there are no firm proposals to change it?

With the regressive pushing so hard to turn schools into prisons I want to show my support for keeping schools safe and SRO free.

[Anonymous]

Why would people prefer security guards, who are constantly yelling at kids and who are downright mean, to SROs, who have more specialized training? I don't get it.

At my kid's school, the security guards are always yelling. No relationship building, no rapport. How is that better?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a petition to keep schools SRO free?

It's the status quo and I dont' think there are any proposals (by Council members) to add them back in. Why would there be a petition in favor of the status quo when there are no firm proposals to change it?

With the regressive pushing so hard to turn schools into prisons I want to show my support for keeping schools safe and SRO free.

I’m not sure what you mean about “regressive pushing,” but I would love to know how SROs turn schools into prisons. There’s literally no proof… anywhere… that MCPD SROs turn schools into prisons. That’s just… not what they do. But I know that because I have worked with them, read their reports, and follow true data. If you get your information from certain council members, I’m sure you have been led to believe that SROs are vindictive monsters who wake up in the morning just itching to narc on kids. (Heck, I’ve heard council testimony that suggests this. It’s based on nothing, of course.)

As a teacher, I’m far more afraid of uncontrolled schools than I am a well-trained SRO. And we have a stunning lack of control of our schools right now. Our students deserve better than the chaos we are giving them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Is there a petition to keep schools SRO free?

It's the status quo and I dont' think there are any proposals (by Council members) to add them back in. Why would there be a petition in favor of the status quo when there are no firm proposals to change it?

With the regressive pushing so hard to turn schools into prisons I want to show my support for keeping schools safe and SRO free.

I’m not sure what you mean about “regressive pushing,” but I would love to know how SROs turn schools into prisons. There’s literally no proof… anywhere… that MCPD SROs turn schools into prisons. That’s just… not what they do. But I know that because I have worked with them, read their reports, and follow true data. If you get your information from certain council members, I’m sure you have been led to believe that SROs are vindictive monsters who wake up in the morning just itching to narc on kids. (Heck, I’ve heard council testimony that suggests this. It’s based on nothing, of course.)

As a teacher, I’m far more afraid of uncontrolled schools than I am a well-trained SRO. And we have a stunning lack of control of our schools right now. Our students deserve better than the chaos we are giving them.

Many adults parenting these students do not understand this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There should be an SRO officer at every high school and middle school.

+1 yes, and I'm fine with them walking the hallways.

since they only make schools less safe it's kind of a bad idea

Post proof, and it can’t be about Parkland or Uvalde. Bonus points if your data is actually related to MCPS, since that’s the subject of this thread.

MCPS SROs are no different than azarose every place else this isn't magic. Cases like parkland and uvalde show that they are not effective in these dangerous situations, nor do they indicate that they make schools in any way safer for our children

Yep, it's been conclusively shown they don't make schools safer.

Actually there are lots of positive reports on SRO's. You just cherry pick what you want to.

So, what is your plan?