New bike lane on Old Georgetown Rd in Bethesda

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Anonymous wrote:These lanes are racist. We know exactly who uses them. Rich white men. It’s a garage to say it has anything to do with the environment. It’s called green gentrification.

We know exactly who had to be injured/killed to get them: a 13-year-old, a 17-year-old, and an 18-year-old.

Four bicyclists have been killed in Montgomery County this year: an immigrant woman in her 60s in Gaithersburg, an 18-year-old college student in Bethesda, a US diplomat in her 40s in Bethesda, and a 19-year-old recent high school graduate in Wheaton. So take your bigoted "rich white men" nonsense somewhere else.

I take it that you are a white guy then. Because only white guys are so insensitive yet carry such victimhood as to go around calling people “bike bigots”. You folks spend too much time talking to yourselves in an epistemically closed environment to understand how dumb you sound.

I think you need to acquaint yourself with the meaning of "bigot". No one particular group gets exclusive rights to the term.

People who spread stereotypes about cyclists are as bigoted as those who spread stereotypes about people from other groups.

While this may give you cognitive dissonance, it happens to be true.

I encourage you, aggrieved white man, to keep calling people bigots. It discredits whatever point you’re trying trying to make because you sound totally insane.

Those who peddle bigotry are bigots. Hence, you are a bigot. If you don't want to be one, stop spreading bigoted stereotypes about groups you don't like. Even if you oppose bike lanes, there is no need to make ill-informed, invidious generalizations about cyclists as a group. Unless of course you are prone to bigotry.

You really need to reassess your life choices, because these four sentences are absolutely crazy.

Poor, oppressed white cyclists having to deal with such rampant bigotry.

There you go with more stereotypes. It's a shame that you apparently lack the mental capacity and/or conscience to think through the consequences of the garbage you spill in public fora.

Your problem isn’t bigotry. Your problem is that angry white dudes have made themselves the mascots and spokesmen for your activity.

Nope. The problem every cyclist faces is a small group of drivers who show absolutely no concern for the safety of vulnerable road users, an attitude that you condone with your dehumanizing bigotry.

[Anonymous]

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Look friend, data is data. The vast majority of cyclists are affluent, white males. You say you are not a man, so then you are most likely an affluent white female. That you put on this act of offense is absolutely ridiculous and demonstrates that you have adopted a mentality of somehow being part of an oppressed minority that goes along with your “bigotry” language. It’s pretty pathetic and offensive to actual oppressed and vulnerable groups. I am just trying to give you friendly advice. But keep it up, I am sure it works wonders to convince more people that you’re nuts.

The vast majority of people who use bicycles for transportation in Montgomery County are young people, low-income people, and black and brown people. You just don't see them from behind your windshield.

Using bikes for transportation is not the same thing as cycling for recreation. You don’t think all the rich Middle Ages white guys biking on closed Beach drive or the CCT are the key market for all these bike lanes? If the county actually cared about low wage workers having safe and reliable transportation, they would increase the safety and reliability of our public transportation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These lanes are racist. We know exactly who uses them. Rich white men. It’s a garage to say it has anything to do with the environment. It’s called green gentrification.

We know exactly who had to be injured/killed to get them: a 13-year-old, a 17-year-old, and an 18-year-old.

Four bicyclists have been killed in Montgomery County this year: an immigrant woman in her 60s in Gaithersburg, an 18-year-old college student in Bethesda, a US diplomat in her 40s in Bethesda, and a 19-year-old recent high school graduate in Wheaton. So take your bigoted "rich white men" nonsense somewhere else.

I take it that you are a white guy then. Because only white guys are so insensitive yet carry such victimhood as to go around calling people “bike bigots”. You folks spend too much time talking to yourselves in an epistemically closed environment to understand how dumb you sound.

I think you need to acquaint yourself with the meaning of "bigot". No one particular group gets exclusive rights to the term.

People who spread stereotypes about cyclists are as bigoted as those who spread stereotypes about people from other groups.

While this may give you cognitive dissonance, it happens to be true.

I encourage you, aggrieved white man, to keep calling people bigots. It discredits whatever point you’re trying trying to make because you sound totally insane.

Those who peddle bigotry are bigots. Hence, you are a bigot. If you don't want to be one, stop spreading bigoted stereotypes about groups you don't like. Even if you oppose bike lanes, there is no need to make ill-informed, invidious generalizations about cyclists as a group. Unless of course you are prone to bigotry.

You really need to reassess your life choices, because these four sentences are absolutely crazy.

Poor, oppressed white cyclists having to deal with such rampant bigotry.

There you go with more stereotypes. It's a shame that you apparently lack the mental capacity and/or conscience to think through the consequences of the garbage you spill in public fora.

You’re just one caffeine headache away from being this lady.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11588353/EXCL-Moment-unhinged-San-Francisco-start-founder-screeches-ambulance-blocking-cycle-lane.html

That someone called out a driver for blocking a bike lane is news now? Oh well, better that I guess than a news report about a toddler being killed because of a bike lane blockage: https://news.wttw.com/2022/12/08/spurred-death-3-year-old-key-city-panel-advances-plan-step-bike-lane-enforcement.

But it's ridiculous and racist of us to care more about people being killed than about people calling out illegal behavior, am I right?

[Anonymous]

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Look friend, data is data. The vast majority of cyclists are affluent, white males. You say you are not a man, so then you are most likely an affluent white female. That you put on this act of offense is absolutely ridiculous and demonstrates that you have adopted a mentality of somehow being part of an oppressed minority that goes along with your “bigotry” language. It’s pretty pathetic and offensive to actual oppressed and vulnerable groups. I am just trying to give you friendly advice. But keep it up, I am sure it works wonders to convince more people that you’re nuts.

The vast majority of people who use bicycles for transportation in Montgomery County are young people, low-income people, and black and brown people. You just don't see them from behind your windshield.

Using bikes for transportation is not the same thing as cycling for recreation. You don’t think all the rich Middle Ages white guys biking on closed Beach drive or the CCT are the key market for all these bike lanes? If the county actually cared about low wage workers having safe and reliable transportation, they would increase the safety and reliability of our public transportation.

The market for "all these bike lanes" includes the 2 youths who died and their friends and family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These lanes are racist. We know exactly who uses them. Rich white men. It’s a garage to say it has anything to do with the environment. It’s called green gentrification.

We know exactly who had to be injured/killed to get them: a 13-year-old, a 17-year-old, and an 18-year-old.

Four bicyclists have been killed in Montgomery County this year: an immigrant woman in her 60s in Gaithersburg, an 18-year-old college student in Bethesda, a US diplomat in her 40s in Bethesda, and a 19-year-old recent high school graduate in Wheaton. So take your bigoted "rich white men" nonsense somewhere else.

I take it that you are a white guy then. Because only white guys are so insensitive yet carry such victimhood as to go around calling people “bike bigots”. You folks spend too much time talking to yourselves in an epistemically closed environment to understand how dumb you sound.

I think you need to acquaint yourself with the meaning of "bigot". No one particular group gets exclusive rights to the term.

People who spread stereotypes about cyclists are as bigoted as those who spread stereotypes about people from other groups.

While this may give you cognitive dissonance, it happens to be true.

I encourage you, aggrieved white man, to keep calling people bigots. It discredits whatever point you’re trying trying to make because you sound totally insane.

Those who peddle bigotry are bigots. Hence, you are a bigot. If you don't want to be one, stop spreading bigoted stereotypes about groups you don't like. Even if you oppose bike lanes, there is no need to make ill-informed, invidious generalizations about cyclists as a group. Unless of course you are prone to bigotry.

You really need to reassess your life choices, because these four sentences are absolutely crazy.

Poor, oppressed white cyclists having to deal with such rampant bigotry.

There you go with more stereotypes. It's a shame that you apparently lack the mental capacity and/or conscience to think through the consequences of the garbage you spill in public fora.

You’re just one caffeine headache away from being this lady.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11588353/EXCL-Moment-unhinged-San-Francisco-start-founder-screeches-ambulance-blocking-cycle-lane.html

That someone called out a driver for blocking a bike lane is news now? Oh well, better that I guess than a news report about a toddler being killed because of a bike lane blockage: https://news.wttw.com/2022/12/08/spurred-death-3-year-old-key-city-panel-advances-plan-step-bike-lane-enforcement.

But it's ridiculous and racist of us to care more about people being killed than about people calling out illegal behavior, am I right?

I think you’re losing it because your posts are getting increasingly deranged. You may want to put the phone down for a while and practice mindfulness.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Look friend, data is data. The vast majority of cyclists are affluent, white males. You say you are not a man, so then you are most likely an affluent white female. That you put on this act of offense is absolutely ridiculous and demonstrates that you have adopted a mentality of somehow being part of an oppressed minority that goes along with your “bigotry” language. It’s pretty pathetic and offensive to actual oppressed and vulnerable groups. I am just trying to give you friendly advice. But keep it up, I am sure it works wonders to convince more people that you’re nuts.

The vast majority of people who use bicycles for transportation in Montgomery County are young people, low-income people, and black and brown people. You just don't see them from behind your windshield.

Using bikes for transportation is not the same thing as cycling for recreation. You don’t think all the rich Middle Ages white guys biking on closed Beach drive or the CCT are the key market for all these bike lanes? If the county actually cared about low wage workers having safe and reliable transportation, they would increase the safety and reliability of our public transportation.

The market for "all these bike lanes" includes the 2 youths who died and their friends and family.

Sure and there has been a reaction. And now there will be another reaction because the bike lanes will not stay how they are. You don’t know this because you do not live in Montgomery County, but people in Montgomery County do know this because we get our news from more sources than Twitter and whatever bike forums you frequent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These lanes are racist. We know exactly who uses them. Rich white men. It’s a garage to say it has anything to do with the environment. It’s called green gentrification.

We know exactly who had to be injured/killed to get them: a 13-year-old, a 17-year-old, and an 18-year-old.

Four bicyclists have been killed in Montgomery County this year: an immigrant woman in her 60s in Gaithersburg, an 18-year-old college student in Bethesda, a US diplomat in her 40s in Bethesda, and a 19-year-old recent high school graduate in Wheaton. So take your bigoted "rich white men" nonsense somewhere else.

I take it that you are a white guy then. Because only white guys are so insensitive yet carry such victimhood as to go around calling people “bike bigots”. You folks spend too much time talking to yourselves in an epistemically closed environment to understand how dumb you sound.

I think you need to acquaint yourself with the meaning of "bigot". No one particular group gets exclusive rights to the term.

People who spread stereotypes about cyclists are as bigoted as those who spread stereotypes about people from other groups.

While this may give you cognitive dissonance, it happens to be true.

I encourage you, aggrieved white man, to keep calling people bigots. It discredits whatever point you’re trying trying to make because you sound totally insane.

Those who peddle bigotry are bigots. Hence, you are a bigot. If you don't want to be one, stop spreading bigoted stereotypes about groups you don't like. Even if you oppose bike lanes, there is no need to make ill-informed, invidious generalizations about cyclists as a group. Unless of course you are prone to bigotry.

You really need to reassess your life choices, because these four sentences are absolutely crazy.

Poor, oppressed white cyclists having to deal with such rampant bigotry.

There you go with more stereotypes. It's a shame that you apparently lack the mental capacity and/or conscience to think through the consequences of the garbage you spill in public fora.

Your problem isn’t bigotry. Your problem is that angry white dudes have made themselves the mascots and spokesmen for your activity.

Nope. The problem every cyclist faces is a small group of drivers who show absolutely no concern for the safety of vulnerable road users, an attitude that you condone with your dehumanizing bigotry.

“dehumanizing bigotry”? You really need to get some help.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Look friend, data is data. The vast majority of cyclists are affluent, white males. You say you are not a man, so then you are most likely an affluent white female. That you put on this act of offense is absolutely ridiculous and demonstrates that you have adopted a mentality of somehow being part of an oppressed minority that goes along with your “bigotry” language. It’s pretty pathetic and offensive to actual oppressed and vulnerable groups. I am just trying to give you friendly advice. But keep it up, I am sure it works wonders to convince more people that you’re nuts.

The vast majority of people who use bicycles for transportation in Montgomery County are young people, low-income people, and black and brown people. You just don't see them from behind your windshield.

Using bikes for transportation is not the same thing as cycling for recreation. You don’t think all the rich Middle Ages white guys biking on closed Beach drive or the CCT are the key market for all these bike lanes? If the county actually cared about low wage workers having safe and reliable transportation, they would increase the safety and reliability of our public transportation.

The market for "all these bike lanes" includes the 2 youths who died and their friends and family.

Sure and there has been a reaction. And now there will be another reaction because the bike lanes will not stay how they are. You don’t know this because you do not live in Montgomery County, but people in Montgomery County do know this because we get our news from more sources than Twitter and whatever bike forums you frequent.

Those 2 kids lived in MoCo too. So do their families and friends. And local news was all over their deaths. People who watch the news know about this problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Look friend, data is data. The vast majority of cyclists are affluent, white males. You say you are not a man, so then you are most likely an affluent white female. That you put on this act of offense is absolutely ridiculous and demonstrates that you have adopted a mentality of somehow being part of an oppressed minority that goes along with your “bigotry” language. It’s pretty pathetic and offensive to actual oppressed and vulnerable groups. I am just trying to give you friendly advice. But keep it up, I am sure it works wonders to convince more people that you’re nuts.

The vast majority of people who use bicycles for transportation in Montgomery County are young people, low-income people, and black and brown people. You just don't see them from behind your windshield.

Using bikes for transportation is not the same thing as cycling for recreation. You don’t think all the rich Middle Ages white guys biking on closed Beach drive or the CCT are the key market for all these bike lanes? If the county actually cared about low wage workers having safe and reliable transportation, they would increase the safety and reliability of our public transportation.

The market for "all these bike lanes" includes the 2 youths who died and their friends and family.

Sure and there has been a reaction. And now there will be another reaction because the bike lanes will not stay how they are. You don’t know this because you do not live in Montgomery County, but people in Montgomery County do know this because we get our news from more sources than Twitter and whatever bike forums you frequent.

Those 2 kids lived in MoCo too. So do their families and friends. And local news was all over their deaths. People who watch the news know about this problem.

Your lack of understanding of what is going on is quite evident and at this stage I am not sure what your point is, what you are arguing or why because you are not a county resident.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Look friend, data is data. The vast majority of cyclists are affluent, white males. You say you are not a man, so then you are most likely an affluent white female. That you put on this act of offense is absolutely ridiculous and demonstrates that you have adopted a mentality of somehow being part of an oppressed minority that goes along with your “bigotry” language. It’s pretty pathetic and offensive to actual oppressed and vulnerable groups. I am just trying to give you friendly advice. But keep it up, I am sure it works wonders to convince more people that you’re nuts.

The vast majority of people who use bicycles for transportation in Montgomery County are young people, low-income people, and black and brown people. You just don't see them from behind your windshield.

Using bikes for transportation is not the same thing as cycling for recreation. You don’t think all the rich Middle Ages white guys biking on closed Beach drive or the CCT are the key market for all these bike lanes? If the county actually cared about low wage workers having safe and reliable transportation, they would increase the safety and reliability of our public transportation.

The market for "all these bike lanes" includes the 2 youths who died and their friends and family.

Sure and there has been a reaction. And now there will be another reaction because the bike lanes will not stay how they are. You don’t know this because you do not live in Montgomery County, but people in Montgomery County do know this because we get our news from more sources than Twitter and whatever bike forums you frequent.

Those 2 kids lived in MoCo too. So do their families and friends. And local news was all over their deaths. People who watch the news know about this problem.

Someone was recently murdered in a parking garage in Montgomery County. Since you are so concerned about Montgomery County deaths that make the news, I would love to hear how you are actively trying to advocate for victims of crime and gun violence in the county.

[Anonymous]

Is there more than one person that keeps accusing people of defending the bike lanes of not living in the county? I live right off OG and do not know how to ride a bicycle. I support the bicycle lanes because they make the neighborhood safer for the community.
I am on that road every single day walking or driving or both and have not noticed appreciably different traffic. (I can remember years when it took 15 minutes to go a mile up OG to get my kids to 6 pm religious Ed, so it’s not like the traffic backup is new.).
I have seen many people using the bike lanes and none of them look like lance Armstrong. They are mostly families going to/from the Y or getting to the trolley trail, some retirees out for exercise, some people that look like they are going to work at NIH, and some older kids or teens going to friends’ houses. Going up to pike and rose this weekend I saw several young couple riding to/from that development.
I don’t know where the PPs are getting the stereotype of the aggro lance Armstrong wanna bes, but that’s not what I’m seeing. If the lanes stay. I expect use will increase.

To reiterate, I can’t ride a bike myself, but I like seeing others being able to safely do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Is there more than one person that keeps accusing people of defending the bike lanes of not living in the county? I live right off OG and do not know how to ride a bicycle. I support the bicycle lanes because they make the neighborhood safer for the community.
I am on that road every single day walking or driving or both and have not noticed appreciably different traffic. (I can remember years when it took 15 minutes to go a mile up OG to get my kids to 6 pm religious Ed, so it’s not like the traffic backup is new.).
I have seen many people using the bike lanes and none of them look like lance Armstrong. They are mostly families going to/from the Y or getting to the trolley trail, some retirees out for exercise, some people that look like they are going to work at NIH, and some older kids or teens going to friends’ houses. Going up to pike and rose this weekend I saw several young couple riding to/from that development.
I don’t know where the PPs are getting the stereotype of the aggro lance Armstrong wanna bes, but that’s not what I’m seeing. If the lanes stay. I expect use will increase.

To reiterate, I can’t ride a bike myself, but I like seeing others being able to safely do so.

You will be happy to know that the bike lanes are in the process of being reevaluated and will not stay the way that they are. Since you are a county resident, I would assume that you would know that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These lanes are racist. We know exactly who uses them. Rich white men. It’s a garage to say it has anything to do with the environment. It’s called green gentrification.

We know exactly who had to be injured/killed to get them: a 13-year-old, a 17-year-old, and an 18-year-old.

Four bicyclists have been killed in Montgomery County this year: an immigrant woman in her 60s in Gaithersburg, an 18-year-old college student in Bethesda, a US diplomat in her 40s in Bethesda, and a 19-year-old recent high school graduate in Wheaton. So take your bigoted "rich white men" nonsense somewhere else.

I take it that you are a white guy then. Because only white guys are so insensitive yet carry such victimhood as to go around calling people “bike bigots”. You folks spend too much time talking to yourselves in an epistemically closed environment to understand how dumb you sound.

I think you need to acquaint yourself with the meaning of "bigot". No one particular group gets exclusive rights to the term.

People who spread stereotypes about cyclists are as bigoted as those who spread stereotypes about people from other groups.

While this may give you cognitive dissonance, it happens to be true.

I encourage you, aggrieved white man, to keep calling people bigots. It discredits whatever point you’re trying trying to make because you sound totally insane.

Those who peddle bigotry are bigots. Hence, you are a bigot. If you don't want to be one, stop spreading bigoted stereotypes about groups you don't like. Even if you oppose bike lanes, there is no need to make ill-informed, invidious generalizations about cyclists as a group. Unless of course you are prone to bigotry.

You really need to reassess your life choices, because these four sentences are absolutely crazy.

Poor, oppressed white cyclists having to deal with such rampant bigotry.

There you go with more stereotypes. It's a shame that you apparently lack the mental capacity and/or conscience to think through the consequences of the garbage you spill in public fora.

Your problem isn’t bigotry. Your problem is that angry white dudes have made themselves the mascots and spokesmen for your activity.

Nope. The problem every cyclist faces is a small group of drivers who show absolutely no concern for the safety of vulnerable road users, an attitude that you condone with your dehumanizing bigotry.

“dehumanizing bigotry”? You really need to get some help.

You and your attitudes need help, bigot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These lanes are racist. We know exactly who uses them. Rich white men. It’s a garage to say it has anything to do with the environment. It’s called green gentrification.

We know exactly who had to be injured/killed to get them: a 13-year-old, a 17-year-old, and an 18-year-old.

Four bicyclists have been killed in Montgomery County this year: an immigrant woman in her 60s in Gaithersburg, an 18-year-old college student in Bethesda, a US diplomat in her 40s in Bethesda, and a 19-year-old recent high school graduate in Wheaton. So take your bigoted "rich white men" nonsense somewhere else.

I take it that you are a white guy then. Because only white guys are so insensitive yet carry such victimhood as to go around calling people “bike bigots”. You folks spend too much time talking to yourselves in an epistemically closed environment to understand how dumb you sound.

I think you need to acquaint yourself with the meaning of "bigot". No one particular group gets exclusive rights to the term.

People who spread stereotypes about cyclists are as bigoted as those who spread stereotypes about people from other groups.

While this may give you cognitive dissonance, it happens to be true.

I encourage you, aggrieved white man, to keep calling people bigots. It discredits whatever point you’re trying trying to make because you sound totally insane.

Those who peddle bigotry are bigots. Hence, you are a bigot. If you don't want to be one, stop spreading bigoted stereotypes about groups you don't like. Even if you oppose bike lanes, there is no need to make ill-informed, invidious generalizations about cyclists as a group. Unless of course you are prone to bigotry.

You really need to reassess your life choices, because these four sentences are absolutely crazy.

Poor, oppressed white cyclists having to deal with such rampant bigotry.

There you go with more stereotypes. It's a shame that you apparently lack the mental capacity and/or conscience to think through the consequences of the garbage you spill in public fora.

You’re just one caffeine headache away from being this lady.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11588353/EXCL-Moment-unhinged-San-Francisco-start-founder-screeches-ambulance-blocking-cycle-lane.html

That someone called out a driver for blocking a bike lane is news now? Oh well, better that I guess than a news report about a toddler being killed because of a bike lane blockage: https://news.wttw.com/2022/12/08/spurred-death-3-year-old-key-city-panel-advances-plan-step-bike-lane-enforcement.

But it's ridiculous and racist of us to care more about people being killed than about people calling out illegal behavior, am I right?

I think you’re losing it because your posts are getting increasingly deranged. You may want to put the phone down for a while and practice mindfulness.

It seems you missed the point. People are well justified for being upset with drivers for blocking bike lanes because such behavior can and does kill people, as it did the three-year old child in Chicago.

[Anonymous]

This seems relevant: https://www.alexandriava.gov/sites/default/files/2022-11/Seminary%20Road%20Project%20Evaluation.pdf

Almost everything seems to have gotten better as a result of the bike lanes. Crashes are down, traffic is down, speeding is down, biking is up, and traffic isn't being diverted.