ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.


On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.





Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.


"believe" being the operative word


If you don't "believe" the guy, then what exposure is his player getting in MLSN2 that is so great? They added so many clubs in that league this past year - 1/3 of them were not even playing in a regional league before - basically a punch of state premier and NAL clubs. without that MSLN badge on the sleeve you would laugh at any poster on here claiming their kid was getting exposure at state premier or NAL. So, if your saying that badge is worth that much, then explain why? I'm not seeing it - not at the MLSN2 level; especially with a split BY and SY for next season making MLSN2 a dead end for promotion.


How are ECNL coaches, coaching and development of players better than MLSN2?

How is the level of competition in ECNL better than MLSN2?


Most MLS2 is B team and we all know what level of B team is. You can call it MLS#, like you put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.


ECNL is a B Team League behind MLS Next

People here keep putting layers of lipstick on that pig though


Obviously has no real knowledge about p2p MLS clubs. They are at best sthe ame as ECNL. Check the Surf College Cup last weekend: MLS teams are mostly at the bottom of each group, and some got beaten by RL teams.


In SURF College Cup 2011 age group for example there were ECNL teams and MLS AD teams (Academy division - MLS 2). No actual MLS Next HG (top division teams). In one half of the bracket the MLS2 teams prevailed, and on the other half the ECNL teams prevailed. Same thing with 2010. Big deal - these are not MLS Next 1 teams losing to ECNL. https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33985 AND https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33980


MLS Next HG lost to ECNL RL teams in Copa Rayados Internacional:https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/44447/schedules?group=387879


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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.


On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.





Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.


"believe" being the operative word


If you don't "believe" the guy, then what exposure is his player getting in MLSN2 that is so great? They added so many clubs in that league this past year - 1/3 of them were not even playing in a regional league before - basically a punch of state premier and NAL clubs. without that MSLN badge on the sleeve you would laugh at any poster on here claiming their kid was getting exposure at state premier or NAL. So, if your saying that badge is worth that much, then explain why? I'm not seeing it - not at the MLSN2 level; especially with a split BY and SY for next season making MLSN2 a dead end for promotion.


How are ECNL coaches, coaching and development of players better than MLSN2?

How is the level of competition in ECNL better than MLSN2?


Most MLS2 is B team and we all know what level of B team is. You can call it MLS#, like you put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.


ECNL is a B Team League behind MLS Next

People here keep putting layers of lipstick on that pig though


Obviously has no real knowledge about p2p MLS clubs. They are at best sthe ame as ECNL. Check the Surf College Cup last weekend: MLS teams are mostly at the bottom of each group, and some got beaten by RL teams.


In SURF College Cup 2011 age group for example there were ECNL teams and MLS AD teams (Academy division - MLS 2). No actual MLS Next HG (top division teams). In one half of the bracket the MLS2 teams prevailed, and on the other half the ECNL teams prevailed. Same thing with 2010. Big deal - these are not MLS Next 1 teams losing to ECNL. https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33985 AND https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33980


MLS Next HG lost to ECNL RL teams in Copa Rayados Internacional:https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/44447/schedules?group=387879




MLSN teams in Texas are not even close to ECNL teams. Texas and California, ECNL is king. We know boys playing on MLSN HG teams in Houston that couldn't even make an HTX RL team, but they're having fun! Enjoying playing soccer, developing as players. So really who cares? Personally I think playing on a MLSN HG team as opposed to an ECNL RL team and because of that missing ourt on the joy and camaraderie that is texas high school soccer is silly but to each other own!

The only thing thats laughable is the idea that MLS P2P clubs in Texas is somehow a better path to a professional academy. We see kids every year go from all kinds of teams into the professional academies, as well as get cut form those same academies and come back to ECNL teams. No age group change is going to change any of that.
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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.


On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.





Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.


"believe" being the operative word


If you don't "believe" the guy, then what exposure is his player getting in MLSN2 that is so great? They added so many clubs in that league this past year - 1/3 of them were not even playing in a regional league before - basically a punch of state premier and NAL clubs. without that MSLN badge on the sleeve you would laugh at any poster on here claiming their kid was getting exposure at state premier or NAL. So, if your saying that badge is worth that much, then explain why? I'm not seeing it - not at the MLSN2 level; especially with a split BY and SY for next season making MLSN2 a dead end for promotion.


How are ECNL coaches, coaching and development of players better than MLSN2?

How is the level of competition in ECNL better than MLSN2?


Most MLS2 is B team and we all know what level of B team is. You can call it MLS#, like you put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.


ECNL is a B Team League behind MLS Next

People here keep putting layers of lipstick on that pig though


Obviously has no real knowledge about p2p MLS clubs. They are at best sthe ame as ECNL. Check the Surf College Cup last weekend: MLS teams are mostly at the bottom of each group, and some got beaten by RL teams.


In SURF College Cup 2011 age group for example there were ECNL teams and MLS AD teams (Academy division - MLS 2). No actual MLS Next HG (top division teams). In one half of the bracket the MLS2 teams prevailed, and on the other half the ECNL teams prevailed. Same thing with 2010. Big deal - these are not MLS Next 1 teams losing to ECNL. https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33985 AND https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33980


fyi, Albion Elite 2010 is the top players from all Albion clubs, including MLS1. The 1st team is at the bottom of the 2010 group. The 2nd 2010 team tied the Surf ECNL 2011 team that plays up. The MLS2 teams that top the bracket is actually from the MLS2 only club and they beat Barca Academy MLS2 team 9:0, so they are actually MLS1 level if the club can get MLS1 status.
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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.


On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.





Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.


"believe" being the operative word


If you don't "believe" the guy, then what exposure is his player getting in MLSN2 that is so great? They added so many clubs in that league this past year - 1/3 of them were not even playing in a regional league before - basically a punch of state premier and NAL clubs. without that MSLN badge on the sleeve you would laugh at any poster on here claiming their kid was getting exposure at state premier or NAL. So, if your saying that badge is worth that much, then explain why? I'm not seeing it - not at the MLSN2 level; especially with a split BY and SY for next season making MLSN2 a dead end for promotion.


How are ECNL coaches, coaching and development of players better than MLSN2?

How is the level of competition in ECNL better than MLSN2?


Most MLS2 is B team and we all know what level of B team is. You can call it MLS#, like you put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.


ECNL is a B Team League behind MLS Next

People here keep putting layers of lipstick on that pig though


Obviously has no real knowledge about p2p MLS clubs. They are at best sthe ame as ECNL. Check the Surf College Cup last weekend: MLS teams are mostly at the bottom of each group, and some got beaten by RL teams.


In SURF College Cup 2011 age group for example there were ECNL teams and MLS AD teams (Academy division - MLS 2). No actual MLS Next HG (top division teams). In one half of the bracket the MLS2 teams prevailed, and on the other half the ECNL teams prevailed. Same thing with 2010. Big deal - these are not MLS Next 1 teams losing to ECNL. https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33985 AND https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33980


fyi, Albion Elite 2010 is the top players from all Albion clubs, including MLS1. The 1st team is at the bottom of the 2010 group. The 2nd 2010 team tied the Surf ECNL 2011 team that plays up. The MLS2 teams that top the bracket is actually from the MLS2 only club and they beat Barca Academy MLS2 team 9:0, so they are actually MLS1 level if the club can get MLS1 status.


Surf’s 2011 ECNL team is just average in their own age group, but they played up one year and tied Albion’s eilite team with 2010 MLS squad. So anyone saying P2P MLS is better than ECNL is talking nonsense.
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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.


On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.





Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.


"believe" being the operative word


If you don't "believe" the guy, then what exposure is his player getting in MLSN2 that is so great? They added so many clubs in that league this past year - 1/3 of them were not even playing in a regional league before - basically a punch of state premier and NAL clubs. without that MSLN badge on the sleeve you would laugh at any poster on here claiming their kid was getting exposure at state premier or NAL. So, if your saying that badge is worth that much, then explain why? I'm not seeing it - not at the MLSN2 level; especially with a split BY and SY for next season making MLSN2 a dead end for promotion.


How are ECNL coaches, coaching and development of players better than MLSN2?

How is the level of competition in ECNL better than MLSN2?


Most MLS2 is B team and we all know what level of B team is. You can call it MLS#, like you put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.


ECNL is a B Team League behind MLS Next

People here keep putting layers of lipstick on that pig though


Obviously has no real knowledge about p2p MLS clubs. They are at best sthe ame as ECNL. Check the Surf College Cup last weekend: MLS teams are mostly at the bottom of each group, and some got beaten by RL teams.


In SURF College Cup 2011 age group for example there were ECNL teams and MLS AD teams (Academy division - MLS 2). No actual MLS Next HG (top division teams). In one half of the bracket the MLS2 teams prevailed, and on the other half the ECNL teams prevailed. Same thing with 2010. Big deal - these are not MLS Next 1 teams losing to ECNL. https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33985 AND https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33980


MLS Next HG lost to ECNL RL teams in Copa Rayados Internacional:https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/44447/schedules?group=387879




MLSN teams in Texas are not even close to ECNL teams. Texas and California, ECNL is king. We know boys playing on MLSN HG teams in Houston that couldn't even make an HTX RL team, but they're having fun! Enjoying playing soccer, developing as players. So really who cares? Personally I think playing on a MLSN HG team as opposed to an ECNL RL team and because of that missing ourt on the joy and camaraderie that is texas high school soccer is silly but to each other own!

The only thing thats laughable is the idea that MLS P2P clubs in Texas is somehow a better path to a professional academy. We see kids every year go from all kinds of teams into the professional academies, as well as get cut form those same academies and come back to ECNL teams. No age group change is going to change any of that.

Give it some time + Boys ECNL is not top in socal. MLSN2 is simply a clone of ECNL boys now that its completely seperate from MLS and SY. It will compete in the 2nd tier boys market for players.
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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.


On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.





Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.


"believe" being the operative word


If you don't "believe" the guy, then what exposure is his player getting in MLSN2 that is so great? They added so many clubs in that league this past year - 1/3 of them were not even playing in a regional league before - basically a punch of state premier and NAL clubs. without that MSLN badge on the sleeve you would laugh at any poster on here claiming their kid was getting exposure at state premier or NAL. So, if your saying that badge is worth that much, then explain why? I'm not seeing it - not at the MLSN2 level; especially with a split BY and SY for next season making MLSN2 a dead end for promotion.


How are ECNL coaches, coaching and development of players better than MLSN2?

How is the level of competition in ECNL better than MLSN2?


Most MLS2 is B team and we all know what level of B team is. You can call it MLS#, like you put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.


ECNL is a B Team League behind MLS Next

People here keep putting layers of lipstick on that pig though


Obviously has no real knowledge about p2p MLS clubs. They are at best sthe ame as ECNL. Check the Surf College Cup last weekend: MLS teams are mostly at the bottom of each group, and some got beaten by RL teams.


In SURF College Cup 2011 age group for example there were ECNL teams and MLS AD teams (Academy division - MLS 2). No actual MLS Next HG (top division teams). In one half of the bracket the MLS2 teams prevailed, and on the other half the ECNL teams prevailed. Same thing with 2010. Big deal - these are not MLS Next 1 teams losing to ECNL. https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33985 AND https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33980


MLS Next HG lost to ECNL RL teams in Copa Rayados Internacional:https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/44447/schedules?group=387879




MLSN teams in Texas are not even close to ECNL teams. Texas and California, ECNL is king. We know boys playing on MLSN HG teams in Houston that couldn't even make an HTX RL team, but they're having fun! Enjoying playing soccer, developing as players. So really who cares? Personally I think playing on a MLSN HG team as opposed to an ECNL RL team and because of that missing ourt on the joy and camaraderie that is texas high school soccer is silly but to each other own!

The only thing thats laughable is the idea that MLS P2P clubs in Texas is somehow a better path to a professional academy. We see kids every year go from all kinds of teams into the professional academies, as well as get cut form those same academies and come back to ECNL teams. No age group change is going to change any of that.

Give it some time + Boys ECNL is not top in socal. MLSN2 is simply a clone of ECNL boys now that its completely seperate from MLS and SY. It will compete in the 2nd tier boys market for players.


You are talking nonsense without any fact, so your IQ must be low.
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Anonymous wrote:Rumor is that ECNL will have a team based league at the top level. There are already some MLSN2 teams playing both MLSN2 and ECRL leagues. Some of those teams are ranked top in ECRL, they could be promoted to the rumored team based ECNL league

Explain to me how that would work.

The reason leagues are club based not team based is so a single coach can coach multiple age groups. This is also why a club plays one other club each week in league. It allows one coach to have multiple teams. They just stay at the same field all day representing multiple teams from their club.

If leagues were team based each team would need to have its own coach. Which would quadruple the costs for clubs and for each team. It would also make scheduling a nightmare.

Sometimes the people that post here are just dumb. It’s unfortunate because sometimes theres good information but most of the time it’s just garbage.


RL is already team based? Or at least my daughter’s RL league is. We do not travel as a club. From what I understood was most RL teams do this as well if they do not have an ECNL team and RL is their highest level.

With that said my director told us many clubs will be pulled up into “ECNL” next year because they are having a team based ECNL league. Those teams will be allowed at showcases with the club based ECNL teams.
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Anonymous wrote:Rumor is that ECNL will have a team based league at the top level. There are already some MLSN2 teams playing both MLSN2 and ECRL leagues. Some of those teams are ranked top in ECRL, they could be promoted to the rumored team based ECNL league

Explain to me how that would work.

The reason leagues are club based not team based is so a single coach can coach multiple age groups. This is also why a club plays one other club each week in league. It allows one coach to have multiple teams. They just stay at the same field all day representing multiple teams from their club.

If leagues were team based each team would need to have its own coach. Which would quadruple the costs for clubs and for each team. It would also make scheduling a nightmare.

Sometimes the people that post here are just dumb. It’s unfortunate because sometimes theres good information but most of the time it’s just garbage.


RL is already team based? Or at least my daughter’s RL league is. We do not travel as a club. From what I understood was most RL teams do this as well if they do not have an ECNL team and RL is their highest level.

With that said my director told us many clubs will be pulled up into “ECNL” next year because they are having a team based ECNL league. Those teams will be allowed at showcases with the club based ECNL teams.


Bingo! It is a fact that ECRL already has a team based league. E.g, in ECRL NorCal for boys. some boys teams plays both MLSN2 and ECRL leagues. And seems it would become true that there would be team based ECNL soon
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Anonymous wrote:Rumor is that ECNL will have a team based league at the top level. There are already some MLSN2 teams playing both MLSN2 and ECRL leagues. Some of those teams are ranked top in ECRL, they could be promoted to the rumored team based ECNL league

Explain to me how that would work.

The reason leagues are club based not team based is so a single coach can coach multiple age groups. This is also why a club plays one other club each week in league. It allows one coach to have multiple teams. They just stay at the same field all day representing multiple teams from their club.

If leagues were team based each team would need to have its own coach. Which would quadruple the costs for clubs and for each team. It would also make scheduling a nightmare.

Sometimes the people that post here are just dumb. It’s unfortunate because sometimes theres good information but most of the time it’s just garbage.


RL is already team based? Or at least my daughter’s RL league is. We do not travel as a club. From what I understood was most RL teams do this as well if they do not have an ECNL team and RL is their highest level.

With that said my director told us many clubs will be pulled up into “ECNL” next year because they are having a team based ECNL league. Those teams will be allowed at showcases with the club based ECNL teams.

You're moving the goalposts.

ECRL teams playing in a single ECNL showcase event is doable for coaches because eveyone is at the same location.

If you had a league that was team based it would be impossible for coaches to coach multiple teams. Which would mean either coaches make less money or parents pay much more money to have a single coach thats dedicated to their team.
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Our team attends team based ECRL and only two age groups in our club got invited to ECRL this season. I don’t see any coach problem with this. Our coach coaches 2 teams. There were one or two game time conflicts, when the club just send another coach to one of the games
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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.


On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.





Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.


"believe" being the operative word


If you don't "believe" the guy, then what exposure is his player getting in MLSN2 that is so great? They added so many clubs in that league this past year - 1/3 of them were not even playing in a regional league before - basically a punch of state premier and NAL clubs. without that MSLN badge on the sleeve you would laugh at any poster on here claiming their kid was getting exposure at state premier or NAL. So, if your saying that badge is worth that much, then explain why? I'm not seeing it - not at the MLSN2 level; especially with a split BY and SY for next season making MLSN2 a dead end for promotion.


How are ECNL coaches, coaching and development of players better than MLSN2?

How is the level of competition in ECNL better than MLSN2?


Most MLS2 is B team and we all know what level of B team is. You can call it MLS#, like you put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.


ECNL is a B Team League behind MLS Next

People here keep putting layers of lipstick on that pig though


Obviously has no real knowledge about p2p MLS clubs. They are at best sthe ame as ECNL. Check the Surf College Cup last weekend: MLS teams are mostly at the bottom of each group, and some got beaten by RL teams.


In SURF College Cup 2011 age group for example there were ECNL teams and MLS AD teams (Academy division - MLS 2). No actual MLS Next HG (top division teams). In one half of the bracket the MLS2 teams prevailed, and on the other half the ECNL teams prevailed. Same thing with 2010. Big deal - these are not MLS Next 1 teams losing to ECNL. https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33985 AND https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33980


MLS Next HG lost to ECNL RL teams in Copa Rayados Internacional:https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/44447/schedules?group=387879




MLSN teams in Texas are not even close to ECNL teams. Texas and California, ECNL is king. We know boys playing on MLSN HG teams in Houston that couldn't even make an HTX RL team, but they're having fun! Enjoying playing soccer, developing as players. So really who cares? Personally I think playing on a MLSN HG team as opposed to an ECNL RL team and because of that missing ourt on the joy and camaraderie that is texas high school soccer is silly but to each other own!

The only thing thats laughable is the idea that MLS P2P clubs in Texas is somehow a better path to a professional academy. We see kids every year go from all kinds of teams into the professional academies, as well as get cut form those same academies and come back to ECNL teams. No age group change is going to change any of that.


When we look at the USYNT age groups, should we expect to see many ECNL representatives from U15 to U21?
Especially from Texas?

Because currently the rosters don't reflect your claimed superiority
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Anonymous wrote:Rumor is that ECNL will have a team based league at the top level. There are already some MLSN2 teams playing both MLSN2 and ECRL leagues. Some of those teams are ranked top in ECRL, they could be promoted to the rumored team based ECNL league

Explain to me how that would work.

The reason leagues are club based not team based is so a single coach can coach multiple age groups. This is also why a club plays one other club each week in league. It allows one coach to have multiple teams. They just stay at the same field all day representing multiple teams from their club.

If leagues were team based each team would need to have its own coach. Which would quadruple the costs for clubs and for each team. It would also make scheduling a nightmare.

Sometimes the people that post here are just dumb. It’s unfortunate because sometimes theres good information but most of the time it’s just garbage.


RL is already team based? Or at least my daughter’s RL league is. We do not travel as a club. From what I understood was most RL teams do this as well if they do not have an ECNL team and RL is their highest level.

With that said my director told us many clubs will be pulled up into “ECNL” next year because they are having a team based ECNL league. Those teams will be allowed at showcases with the club based ECNL teams.


Not sure how I’m moving goal posts by stating what was told to me? ECNL team based league will essentially be a renamed RL league but with ability to attend showcases with club based ECNL teams.
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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.


On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.





Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.


"believe" being the operative word


If you don't "believe" the guy, then what exposure is his player getting in MLSN2 that is so great? They added so many clubs in that league this past year - 1/3 of them were not even playing in a regional league before - basically a punch of state premier and NAL clubs. without that MSLN badge on the sleeve you would laugh at any poster on here claiming their kid was getting exposure at state premier or NAL. So, if your saying that badge is worth that much, then explain why? I'm not seeing it - not at the MLSN2 level; especially with a split BY and SY for next season making MLSN2 a dead end for promotion.


How are ECNL coaches, coaching and development of players better than MLSN2?

How is the level of competition in ECNL better than MLSN2?


Most MLS2 is B team and we all know what level of B team is. You can call it MLS#, like you put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.


ECNL is a B Team League behind MLS Next

People here keep putting layers of lipstick on that pig though


Obviously has no real knowledge about p2p MLS clubs. They are at best sthe ame as ECNL. Check the Surf College Cup last weekend: MLS teams are mostly at the bottom of each group, and some got beaten by RL teams.


In SURF College Cup 2011 age group for example there were ECNL teams and MLS AD teams (Academy division - MLS 2). No actual MLS Next HG (top division teams). In one half of the bracket the MLS2 teams prevailed, and on the other half the ECNL teams prevailed. Same thing with 2010. Big deal - these are not MLS Next 1 teams losing to ECNL. https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33985 AND https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33980


MLS Next HG lost to ECNL RL teams in Copa Rayados Internacional:https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/44447/schedules?group=387879




MLSN teams in Texas are not even close to ECNL teams. Texas and California, ECNL is king. We know boys playing on MLSN HG teams in Houston that couldn't even make an HTX RL team, but they're having fun! Enjoying playing soccer, developing as players. So really who cares? Personally I think playing on a MLSN HG team as opposed to an ECNL RL team and because of that missing ourt on the joy and camaraderie that is texas high school soccer is silly but to each other own!

The only thing thats laughable is the idea that MLS P2P clubs in Texas is somehow a better path to a professional academy. We see kids every year go from all kinds of teams into the professional academies, as well as get cut form those same academies and come back to ECNL teams. No age group change is going to change any of that.


When we look at the USYNT age groups, should we expect to see many ECNL representatives from U15 to U21?
Especially from Texas?

Because currently the rosters don't reflect your claimed superiority


No, you'll see exclusively MLS professional academies, and if you are claiming that in Texas, the MLS professional academies and the MLSN P2P clubs are similar in quality you are very far off. They are not competitive at all.
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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.


On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.





Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.


"believe" being the operative word


If you don't "believe" the guy, then what exposure is his player getting in MLSN2 that is so great? They added so many clubs in that league this past year - 1/3 of them were not even playing in a regional league before - basically a punch of state premier and NAL clubs. without that MSLN badge on the sleeve you would laugh at any poster on here claiming their kid was getting exposure at state premier or NAL. So, if your saying that badge is worth that much, then explain why? I'm not seeing it - not at the MLSN2 level; especially with a split BY and SY for next season making MLSN2 a dead end for promotion.


How are ECNL coaches, coaching and development of players better than MLSN2?

How is the level of competition in ECNL better than MLSN2?


Most MLS2 is B team and we all know what level of B team is. You can call it MLS#, like you put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.


ECNL is a B Team League behind MLS Next

People here keep putting layers of lipstick on that pig though


Obviously has no real knowledge about p2p MLS clubs. They are at best sthe ame as ECNL. Check the Surf College Cup last weekend: MLS teams are mostly at the bottom of each group, and some got beaten by RL teams.


In SURF College Cup 2011 age group for example there were ECNL teams and MLS AD teams (Academy division - MLS 2). No actual MLS Next HG (top division teams). In one half of the bracket the MLS2 teams prevailed, and on the other half the ECNL teams prevailed. Same thing with 2010. Big deal - these are not MLS Next 1 teams losing to ECNL. https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33985 AND https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33980


MLS Next HG lost to ECNL RL teams in Copa Rayados Internacional:https://system.gotsport.com/org_event/events/44447/schedules?group=387879




MLSN teams in Texas are not even close to ECNL teams. Texas and California, ECNL is king. We know boys playing on MLSN HG teams in Houston that couldn't even make an HTX RL team, but they're having fun! Enjoying playing soccer, developing as players. So really who cares? Personally I think playing on a MLSN HG team as opposed to an ECNL RL team and because of that missing ourt on the joy and camaraderie that is texas high school soccer is silly but to each other own!

The only thing thats laughable is the idea that MLS P2P clubs in Texas is somehow a better path to a professional academy. We see kids every year go from all kinds of teams into the professional academies, as well as get cut form those same academies and come back to ECNL teams. No age group change is going to change any of that.


When we look at the USYNT age groups, should we expect to see many ECNL representatives from U15 to U21?
Especially from Texas?

Because currently the rosters don't reflect your claimed superiority


No, you'll see exclusively MLS professional academies, and if you are claiming that in Texas, the MLS professional academies and the MLSN P2P clubs are similar in quality you are very far off. They are not competitive at all.


Those MLS shills love to mix the MLSN Academy team with the P2P MLSN together to make them look superior, while the P2P MLS is at most on par with ECNL.
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