ECNL moving to school year part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Rumor is that ECNL will have a team based league at the top level. There are already some MLSN2 teams playing both MLSN2 and ECRL leagues. Some of those teams are ranked top in ECRL, they could be promoted to the rumored team based ECNL league

USYS National League is also using that double standard Club and Team based league, with different ranks: Premier 1, 2 etc …

If ECNL merges/absorbs USYS it will be really interesting.

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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.

On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.

Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.

You can do biobanding to play in the MLS1 younger group, so same as ECNL SY.

Not necessarily! You have to be a late developer to play in the younger group.

No biobanding police in MLS. As long as you are short, then you can play down. There is no doctor or sth to check. They only measure your height.

Actually, they measure weight, sitting height, standing height and take several photos that must be submitted to the league, including one comparing the players on the entire MLS team in birth order in a line so you can se relative size based upon age. They also take photos of the players’ necks to evaluate whether an Adam’s Apple is present.

Most people here have no clue about the process. Some say you just have to be short, others say they are “giraffes” or “tallest on the field”. None of that is correct.

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Anonymous wrote:Rumor is that ECNL will have a team based league at the top level. There are already some MLSN2 teams playing both MLSN2 and ECRL leagues. Some of those teams are ranked top in ECRL, they could be promoted to the rumored team based ECNL league

Explain to me how that would work.

The reason leagues are club based not team based is so a single coach can coach multiple age groups. This is also why a club plays one other club each week in league. It allows one coach to have multiple teams. They just stay at the same field all day representing multiple teams from their club.

If leagues were team based each team would need to have its own coach. Which would quadruple the costs for clubs and for each team. It would also make scheduling a nightmare.

Sometimes the people that post here are just dumb. Its unfortunate because sometimes theres good information but most of the time its just garbage.

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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.

On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.

Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.

"believe" being the operative word

If you don't "believe" the guy, then what exposure is his player getting in MLSN2 that is so great? They added so many clubs in that league this past year - 1/3 of them were not even playing in a regional league before - basically a punch of state premier and NAL clubs. without that MSLN badge on the sleeve you would laugh at any poster on here claiming their kid was getting exposure at state premier or NAL. So, if your saying that badge is worth that much, then explain why? I'm not seeing it - not at the MLSN2 level; especially with a split BY and SY for next season making MLSN2 a dead end for promotion.

How are ECNL coaches, coaching and development of players better than MLSN2?

How is the level of competition in ECNL better than MLSN2?

Most MLS2 is B team and we all know what level of B team is. You can call it MLS#, like you put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

ECNL is a B Team League behind MLS Next

People here keep putting layers of lipstick on that pig though

I agree that MLSN1 is higher level, generally spoken, than ECNL.

However ECNL has better level of playing than MLSN2.

No, they're about the same and ECNL is often worse depending on where you are.

Both are similar quality for sure. Now ECNL is the best SY league and MLSN is the best BY league . MLSN banking on MLS2 to sustain things and clubs put up with multiple age cutoffs. Not really healthy or sustainable . MLSN2 only clubs likely won’t be able to sell all that travel to quality players who will move to ECNL especially if Aug+. MLSN2 talent pool takes a hit for sure. I am at an MLSN club and wish it weren’t true.

Yep, that was the parents comment today at pratice, asking club's staff if the MLSN2 team can be registered at ECNL for next year.

Are you for real?

Clubs join leagues not teams.

If a parent said somehting like that outloud to other parents on one of my teams I'd boot their kid. Its not just because MLS is better or worse than any other league. Its disrespectful and parents trying to recruit other parents to jump ship for other leagues.

We parents at our team don’t ask permission to you to talk about what we consider interesting.

You are disrespectful.


We want the best for our club and kids, and now we are evaluating if switching to ECNL is the right move to do.

And yes, believe me, the club’s management listens carefully our opinions and arguments.

You are ridiculious.

Coaches will simply "cut out the cancer" and be done with you.

Like all the over involved busy bodies eventually you'll piss off the wrong person and your kid will get benched or cut from the team. Unless your kid is a superstar which most likely they are not.

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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.

On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.

Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.

You can do biobanding to play in the MLS1 younger group, so same as ECNL SY.

Not necessarily! You have to be a late developer to play in the younger group.

No biobanding police in MLS. As long as you are short, then you can play down. There is no doctor or sth to check. They only measure your height.

Actually, they measure weight, sitting height, standing height and take several photos that must be submitted to the league, including one comparing the players on the entire MLS team in birth order in a line so you can se relative size based upon age. They also take photos of the players’ necks to evaluate whether an Adam’s Apple is present.

Most people here have no clue about the process. Some say you just have to be short, others say they are “giraffes” or “tallest on the field”. None of that is correct.

We only measure standing height; no picture is taken. The procedure is very loose. The younger team coach emailed our team saying that he wants to biobanding, talk to him. So as long as you are short, you can bioband if you cannot get minutes in your team. We also have U18 playing down in U17.

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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.

On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.

Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.

"believe" being the operative word

If you don't "believe" the guy, then what exposure is his player getting in MLSN2 that is so great? They added so many clubs in that league this past year - 1/3 of them were not even playing in a regional league before - basically a punch of state premier and NAL clubs. without that MSLN badge on the sleeve you would laugh at any poster on here claiming their kid was getting exposure at state premier or NAL. So, if your saying that badge is worth that much, then explain why? I'm not seeing it - not at the MLSN2 level; especially with a split BY and SY for next season making MLSN2 a dead end for promotion.

How are ECNL coaches, coaching and development of players better than MLSN2?

How is the level of competition in ECNL better than MLSN2?

Most MLS2 is B team and we all know what level of B team is. You can call it MLS#, like you put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

ECNL is a B Team League behind MLS Next

People here keep putting layers of lipstick on that pig though

I agree that MLSN1 is higher level, generally spoken, than ECNL.

However ECNL has better level of playing than MLSN2.

No, they're about the same and ECNL is often worse depending on where you are.

Both are similar quality for sure. Now ECNL is the best SY league and MLSN is the best BY league . MLSN banking on MLS2 to sustain things and clubs put up with multiple age cutoffs. Not really healthy or sustainable . MLSN2 only clubs likely won’t be able to sell all that travel to quality players who will move to ECNL especially if Aug+. MLSN2 talent pool takes a hit for sure. I am at an MLSN club and wish it weren’t true.

Yep, that was the parents comment today at pratice, asking club's staff if the MLSN2 team can be registered at ECNL for next year.

Are you for real?

Clubs join leagues not teams.

If a parent said somehting like that outloud to other parents on one of my teams I'd boot their kid. Its not just because MLS is better or worse than any other league. Its disrespectful and parents trying to recruit other parents to jump ship for other leagues.

We parents at our team don’t ask permission to you to talk about what we consider interesting.

You are disrespectful.


We want the best for our club and kids, and now we are evaluating if switching to ECNL is the right move to do.

And yes, believe me, the club’s management listens carefully our opinions and arguments.

You are ridiculious.

Coaches will simply "cut out the cancer" and be done with you.

Like all the over involved busy bodies eventually you'll piss off the wrong person and your kid will get benched or cut from the team. Unless your kid is a superstar which most likely they are not.

Wow, you are, in fact, a giant turd.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.

On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.

Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.

You can do biobanding to play in the MLS1 younger group, so same as ECNL SY.

Not necessarily! You have to be a late developer to play in the younger group.

No biobanding police in MLS. As long as you are short, then you can play down. There is no doctor or sth to check. They only measure your height.

Actually, they measure weight, sitting height, standing height and take several photos that must be submitted to the league, including one comparing the players on the entire MLS team in birth order in a line so you can se relative size based upon age. They also take photos of the players’ necks to evaluate whether an Adam’s Apple is present.

Most people here have no clue about the process. Some say you just have to be short, others say they are “giraffes” or “tallest on the field”. None of that is correct.

We only measure standing height; no picture is taken. The procedure is very loose. The younger team coach emailed our team saying that he wants to biobanding, talk to him. So as long as you are short, you can bioband if you cannot get minutes in your team. We also have U18 playing down in U17.

Can you bioband all the way until you're U18?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Rumor is that ECNL will have a team based league at the top level. There are already some MLSN2 teams playing both MLSN2 and ECRL leagues. Some of those teams are ranked top in ECRL, they could be promoted to the rumored team based ECNL league

USYS National League is also using that double standard Club and Team based league, with different ranks: Premier 1, 2 etc …

If ECNL merges/absorbs USYS it will be really interesting.

Both GA and ECNL already do this to a certain degree by offering extra events for teams/clubs that perform the best in their leagues. USYS was trying to replicate this. All of it is designed to protect big clubs AND dangle the "pathway" that the little club can somehow win big or advance.

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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.

On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.

Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.

You can do biobanding to play in the MLS1 younger group, so same as ECNL SY.

Not necessarily! You have to be a late developer to play in the younger group.

No biobanding police in MLS. As long as you are short, then you can play down. There is no doctor or sth to check. They only measure your height.

Actually, they measure weight, sitting height, standing height and take several photos that must be submitted to the league, including one comparing the players on the entire MLS team in birth order in a line so you can se relative size based upon age. They also take photos of the players’ necks to evaluate whether an Adam’s Apple is present.

Most people here have no clue about the process. Some say you just have to be short, others say they are “giraffes” or “tallest on the field”. None of that is correct.

We only measure standing height; no picture is taken. The procedure is very loose. The younger team coach emailed our team saying that he wants to biobanding, talk to him. So as long as you are short, you can bioband if you cannot get minutes in your team. We also have U18 playing down in U17.

Can you bioband all the way until you're U18?

I thought the most they go is up to is U16

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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.

On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.

Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.

"believe" being the operative word

If you don't "believe" the guy, then what exposure is his player getting in MLSN2 that is so great? They added so many clubs in that league this past year - 1/3 of them were not even playing in a regional league before - basically a punch of state premier and NAL clubs. without that MSLN badge on the sleeve you would laugh at any poster on here claiming their kid was getting exposure at state premier or NAL. So, if your saying that badge is worth that much, then explain why? I'm not seeing it - not at the MLSN2 level; especially with a split BY and SY for next season making MLSN2 a dead end for promotion.

How are ECNL coaches, coaching and development of players better than MLSN2?

How is the level of competition in ECNL better than MLSN2?

Most MLS2 is B team and we all know what level of B team is. You can call it MLS#, like you put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

ECNL is a B Team League behind MLS Next

People here keep putting layers of lipstick on that pig though

Obviously has no real knowledge about p2p MLS clubs. They are at best sthe ame as ECNL. Check the Surf College Cup last weekend: MLS teams are mostly at the bottom of each group, and some got beaten by RL teams.

In SURF College Cup 2011 age group for example there were ECNL teams and MLS AD teams (Academy division - MLS 2). No actual MLS Next HG (top division teams). In one half of the bracket the MLS2 teams prevailed, and on the other half the ECNL teams prevailed. Same thing with 2010. Big deal - these are not MLS Next 1 teams losing to ECNL. https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33985 AND https://public.totalglobalsports.com/public/event/4014/standings/33980

[Anonymous]

What does the Adam's apple have to do with anything? just curious.

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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.

On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.

Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.

You can do biobanding to play in the MLS1 younger group, so same as ECNL SY.

Not necessarily! You have to be a late developer to play in the younger group.

No biobanding police in MLS. As long as you are short, then you can play down. There is no doctor or sth to check. They only measure your height.

Actually, they measure weight, sitting height, standing height and take several photos that must be submitted to the league, including one comparing the players on the entire MLS team in birth order in a line so you can se relative size based upon age. They also take photos of the players’ necks to evaluate whether an Adam’s Apple is present.

Most people here have no clue about the process. Some say you just have to be short, others say they are “giraffes” or “tallest on the field”. None of that is correct.

We only measure standing height; no picture is taken. The procedure is very loose. The younger team coach emailed our team saying that he wants to biobanding, talk to him. So as long as you are short, you can bioband if you cannot get minutes in your team. We also have U18 playing down in U17.

What club? For our club they told us MLS Next (HG at least) requires all of the measurements and the photo to be submitted and late developers to be approved by the league. Maybe MLS2 is more lenient? I'm not familiar with them.

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Anonymous wrote:What does the Adam's apple have to do with anything? just curious.

It indicates that puberty has occurred and certain levels of testosterone are present. So a kid is generally not a late developer if the Adam's apple is present. So many people hate the biobanding concept because it does generally take minutes from other kids but there really are checks and balances. It's not arbitrary who qualifies. Our U15 team had 2 gets get rejected by the league and they weren't allowed to bioband to U14 this year as a result.

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Anonymous wrote:Very good chance MLSN will be merging/absorbing ECNL boys and GA girls.

On the contrary.

Very good chance ECNL will be absorbing MLSN2 boys and GA girls.

Agree. As a dad of a Q4 kid I believe it will be better for my kid's development and exposure ECNL rather than MLSN2.

"believe" being the operative word

If you don't "believe" the guy, then what exposure is his player getting in MLSN2 that is so great? They added so many clubs in that league this past year - 1/3 of them were not even playing in a regional league before - basically a punch of state premier and NAL clubs. without that MSLN badge on the sleeve you would laugh at any poster on here claiming their kid was getting exposure at state premier or NAL. So, if your saying that badge is worth that much, then explain why? I'm not seeing it - not at the MLSN2 level; especially with a split BY and SY for next season making MLSN2 a dead end for promotion.

How are ECNL coaches, coaching and development of players better than MLSN2?

How is the level of competition in ECNL better than MLSN2?

Most MLS2 is B team and we all know what level of B team is. You can call it MLS#, like you put lipstick on a pig, but it is still a pig.

In Texas MLS1 teams lose to ECNL and ECNL RL teams all of the time.