Donald Jr. slam on public schools?

Anonymous
Last night Donald Jr. stated that American schools are failing and U.S. students are falling behind other countries because in other countries people have the choice to go to other schools. He blamed teachers unions for the fact that students are "falling behind".

This just doesn't sound correct to me on several levels. Aren't the countries that are improving and overtaking US in education typically unionized? And their teachers are very well paid? In fact, isn't there a Scandinavian country that actually prohibits school choice-- i.e., there are no private schools, you have to send your kid to a public school-- which not much sacrifice because the teachers are super educated and love their jobs)? And country scores far better on international tests than US even though (arguably because) there is no school choice.

I thought the reason other kids are surpassing US kids was because poverty is increasing in US while decreasing in other countries?
Anonymous
His speech was offensive, particularly the claim that US public education is like "Soviet-era department stores that existed for the benefit of clerks." Similarly, he said that public schools exist for the benefit of teachers. That's a grave misunderstanding of the hard work that American teachers put in, particularly as the party his father wants to run has cut public education dollars around the country.
Anonymous
Other countries don't have universal education. They track early. That is antithetical to our entire educational model.

This alone makes comparisons to other countries faulty.
Anonymous
He's correct. Ask Black America how schools work for them.
Anonymous
It would have more resonance if he had ever stepped foot in a public school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:He's correct. Ask Black America how schools work for them.


more like ask Black America how poverty is working for them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:His speech was offensive, particularly the claim that US public education is like "Soviet-era department stores that existed for the benefit of clerks." Similarly, he said that public schools exist for the benefit of teachers. That's a grave misunderstanding of the hard work that American teachers put in, particularly as the party his father wants to run has cut public education dollars around the country.


The cutest part is that this was plagiarized too.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:His speech was offensive, particularly the claim that US public education is like "Soviet-era department stores that existed for the benefit of clerks." Similarly, he said that public schools exist for the benefit of teachers. That's a grave misunderstanding of the hard work that American teachers put in, particularly as the party his father wants to run has cut public education dollars around the country.


The cutest part is that this was plagiarized too.


No, it wasn’t. Do some research.
Anonymous
Retired public school teacher here.
He is correct. The unions defend teachers who should not be defended when it comes to incompetence and sometimes even, neglect and abuse.
I have seen it. Horrible teachers who have no business working with students are “rescued” by the union.
It is very hard for districts to get rid of teachers who are harmful to students.

I agree with him on choice.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:His speech was offensive, particularly the claim that US public education is like "Soviet-era department stores that existed for the benefit of clerks." Similarly, he said that public schools exist for the benefit of teachers. That's a grave misunderstanding of the hard work that American teachers put in, particularly as the party his father wants to run has cut public education dollars around the country.


The cutest part is that this was plagiarized too.


No, it wasn’t. Do some research.


It was. He stole from Buckley. Granted, Buckley probably wrote the speech, but these remarks had been published previously in The American Conservative. I seriously think we are being punk'ed. There is no way this happens two nights in a row.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:His speech was offensive, particularly the claim that US public education is like "Soviet-era department stores that existed for the benefit of clerks." Similarly, he said that public schools exist for the benefit of teachers. That's a grave misunderstanding of the hard work that American teachers put in, particularly as the party his father wants to run has cut public education dollars around the country.


The cutest part is that this was plagiarized too.


No, it wasn’t. Do some research.


It was. He stole from Buckley. Granted, Buckley probably wrote the speech, but these remarks had been published previously in The American Conservative. I seriously think we are being punk'ed. There is no way this happens two nights in a row.


PP here. Due diligence. Preface your statements with. "As Buckley said. . ." Or whatever to not make you look like an asshole when people fact check and realize there is not an original, consistent, or sane thought in the Trump campaign.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:His speech was offensive, particularly the claim that US public education is like "Soviet-era department stores that existed for the benefit of clerks." Similarly, he said that public schools exist for the benefit of teachers. That's a grave misunderstanding of the hard work that American teachers put in, particularly as the party his father wants to run has cut public education dollars around the country.


The cutest part is that this was plagiarized too.


No, it wasn’t. Do some research.


It was. He stole from Buckley. Granted, Buckley probably wrote the speech, but these remarks had been published previously in The American Conservative. I seriously think we are being punk'ed. There is no way this happens two nights in a row.


I guess Obama plagiarized his speech when the same thing happened in 2008, then.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-accused-of-plagiarism-in-speech/
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:His speech was offensive, particularly the claim that US public education is like "Soviet-era department stores that existed for the benefit of clerks." Similarly, he said that public schools exist for the benefit of teachers. That's a grave misunderstanding of the hard work that American teachers put in, particularly as the party his father wants to run has cut public education dollars around the country.


The cutest part is that this was plagiarized too.


No, it wasn’t. Do some research.


It was. He stole from Buckley. Granted, Buckley probably wrote the speech, but these remarks had been published previously in The American Conservative. I seriously think we are being punk'ed. There is no way this happens two nights in a row.


I guess Obama plagiarized his speech when the same thing happened in 2008, then.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-accused-of-plagiarism-in-speech/


They had the same message, and good intent. And Obama owned it. He didn't blame it on "My Little Pony."
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:His speech was offensive, particularly the claim that US public education is like "Soviet-era department stores that existed for the benefit of clerks." Similarly, he said that public schools exist for the benefit of teachers. That's a grave misunderstanding of the hard work that American teachers put in, particularly as the party his father wants to run has cut public education dollars around the country.


The cutest part is that this was plagiarized too.


No, it wasn’t. Do some research.


It was. He stole from Buckley. Granted, Buckley probably wrote the speech, but these remarks had been published previously in The American Conservative. I seriously think we are being punk'ed. There is no way this happens two nights in a row.


I guess Obama plagiarized his speech when the same thing happened in 2008, then.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-accused-of-plagiarism-in-speech/


They had the same message, and good intent. And Obama owned it. He didn't blame it on "My Little Pony."


So, they did the same thing, but only Don, Jr. is a plagiarist?
Your partisanship is showing.......
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:His speech was offensive, particularly the claim that US public education is like "Soviet-era department stores that existed for the benefit of clerks." Similarly, he said that public schools exist for the benefit of teachers. That's a grave misunderstanding of the hard work that American teachers put in, particularly as the party his father wants to run has cut public education dollars around the country.


The cutest part is that this was plagiarized too.


No, it wasn’t. Do some research.


Well, it actually was.
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