Donald Jr. slam on public schools?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:His speech was offensive, particularly the claim that US public education is like "Soviet-era department stores that existed for the benefit of clerks." Similarly, he said that public schools exist for the benefit of teachers. That's a grave misunderstanding of the hard work that American teachers put in, particularly as the party his father wants to run has cut public education dollars around the country.

The cutest part is that this was plagiarized too.

No, it wasn’t. Do some research.

It was. He stole from Buckley. Granted, Buckley probably wrote the speech, but these remarks had been published previously in The American Conservative. I seriously think we are being punk'ed. There is no way this happens two nights in a row.

I guess Obama plagiarized his speech when the same thing happened in 2008, then.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-accused-of-plagiarism-in-speech/

They had the same message, and good intent. And Obama owned it. He didn't blame it on "My Little Pony."

So, they did the same thing, but only Don, Jr. is a plagiarist?
Your partisanship is showing.......

Come on, don't be an idiot. Obama said he spoke that man's words. He explained why he did it. My guess is Buckley and Don have never even met. There is no apology or gravitas with the Trumps. Ironic that he said, "People learn from mistakes," yet they keep fucking up and won't own it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:His speech was offensive, particularly the claim that US public education is like "Soviet-era department stores that existed for the benefit of clerks." Similarly, he said that public schools exist for the benefit of teachers. That's a grave misunderstanding of the hard work that American teachers put in, particularly as the party his father wants to run has cut public education dollars around the country.

The cutest part is that this was plagiarized too.

No, it wasn’t. Do some research.

Well, it actually was.

Then, Obama is guilty of the same “crime.” You are getting way too much of your news from the Daily Show.

And then apparent confirmation from Business Insider: Buckley worked as a speechwriter for Trump's effort. He told Vox that he was the principal speechwriter for Trump. Not plagiarism, then, but a re-purposing of language and ideas from the same author.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/20/theres-a-cribbed-passage-in-donald-trump-jr-s-speech-too-but-its-not-that-simple/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/writer-says-trumps-son-did-not-plagiarize-in-gop-address/2016/07/20/0d16dea2-4e34-11e6-bf27-405106836f96_story.html

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He's correct. Ask Black America how schools work for them.

more like ask Black America how poverty is working for them.

That's part of it too. Improve their educational situation and you will see poverty lift.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:His speech was offensive, particularly the claim that US public education is like "Soviet-era department stores that existed for the benefit of clerks." Similarly, he said that public schools exist for the benefit of teachers. That's a grave misunderstanding of the hard work that American teachers put in, particularly as the party his father wants to run has cut public education dollars around the country.

Says the teacher during her eight weeks of paid vacation.

[Anonymous]

I didn't watch his speech but American public schools ARE awful....

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He's correct. Ask Black America how schools work for them.

more like ask Black America how poverty is working for them.

Well, let's see. I'm not poor and my DCPS school is working out great for me - asshole. We aren't all poor. How's meth working out for white people?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Retired public school teacher here.
He is correct. The unions defend teachers who should not be defended when it comes to incompetence and sometimes even, neglect and abuse.
I have seen it. Horrible teachers who have no business working with students are “rescued” by the union.
It is very hard for districts to get rid of teachers who are harmful to students.

I agree with him on choice.

And there are some TERRIBLE schools funded through choice. Teachers can be fired like anyone else. Principles just have to be diligent. Go to a state like NC with no teacher's union and see how that is working out.

Signed, former COO of a State Superintendent

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:His speech was offensive, particularly the claim that US public education is like "Soviet-era department stores that existed for the benefit of clerks." Similarly, he said that public schools exist for the benefit of teachers. That's a grave misunderstanding of the hard work that American teachers put in, particularly as the party his father wants to run has cut public education dollars around the country.

Says the teacher during her eight weeks of paid vacation.

Hey now. I agree with Donald Jr’s speech. There is a lot of work to be done on the education front. And, unions are harmful to education, in my experience.
I, too, was a teacher. Many teachers DO work hard. Many are actually good at what they do. There are just too many that are incompetent at the job which they have been hired.
Teachers are NOT paid for the summer months. So, that is blatantly false.
And, many of them put in work during the summer for which they are not paid.
So, careful in your criticism.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch his speech but American public schools ARE awful....

I read a study several years back regarding out system compared to Europe. The BIGGEST difference cited was that other countries pay for pre-K, healthcare and provide food. Kids go to school ready to learn. You can't get shit out of republicans.

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Anonymous wrote:He's correct. Ask Black America how schools work for them.

more like ask Black America how poverty is working for them.

Well, let's see. I'm not poor and my DCPS school is working out great for me - asshole. We aren't all poor. How's meth working out for white people?

Then, pp wasn’t talking about you. Do you not understand that?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's correct. Ask Black America how schools work for them.

more like ask Black America how poverty is working for them.

Well, let's see. I'm not poor and my DCPS school is working out great for me - asshole. We aren't all poor. How's meth working out for white people?

Probably the same as crack and crank are working out for black people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch his speech but American public schools ARE awful....

I read a study several years back regarding out system compared to Europe. The BIGGEST difference cited was that other countries pay for pre-K, healthcare and provide food. Kids go to school ready to learn. You can't get shit out of republicans.

My child's school provide breakfast and lunch and companies provide food for weekend backpacks given to children who are food insecure. These same children were in Headstart and receive Medicaid. Not sure what I am missing here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch his speech but American public schools ARE awful....

I read a study several years back regarding out system compared to Europe. The BIGGEST difference cited was that other countries pay for pre-K, healthcare and provide food. Kids go to school ready to learn. You can't get shit out of republicans.

My child's school provide breakfast and lunch and companies provide food for weekend backpacks given to children who are food insecure. These same children were in Headstart and receive Medicaid. Not sure what I am missing here.

Bingo. There are all kinds of safety nets in place for those who need them. But, for some reason, it hasn’t made a big difference in the quality of education.
I think Donald Trump, Jr. is onto something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He's correct. Ask Black America how schools work for them.

more like ask Black America how poverty is working for them.

Well, let's see. I'm not poor and my DCPS school is working out great for me - asshole. We aren't all poor. How's meth working out for white people?

Then, pp wasn’t talking about you. Do you not understand that?

I am Black America.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch his speech but American public schools ARE awful....

I read a study several years back regarding out system compared to Europe. The BIGGEST difference cited was that other countries pay for pre-K, healthcare and provide food. Kids go to school ready to learn. You can't get shit out of republicans.

My child's school provide breakfast and lunch and companies provide food for weekend backpacks given to children who are food insecure. These same children were in Headstart and receive Medicaid. Not sure what I am missing here.

Bingo. There are all kinds of safety nets in place for those who need them. But, for some reason, it hasn’t made a big difference in the quality of education.
I think Donald Trump, Jr. is onto something.

It's not across the board. Lot's of kids can't get into Headstart. DC is great with food, but not all jurisdictions are. It's not universal so lots of kids fall through the cracks.