Donald Jr. slam on public schools?

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Anonymous wrote:He's correct. Ask Black America how schools work for them.

more like ask Black America how poverty is working for them.

Well, let's see. I'm not poor and my DCPS school is working out great for me - asshole. We aren't all poor. How's meth working out for white people?

Probably the same as crack and crank are working out for black people.

Then stop worrying about us and worry about yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch his speech but American public schools ARE awful....

I read a study several years back regarding out system compared to Europe. The BIGGEST difference cited was that other countries pay for pre-K, healthcare and provide food. Kids go to school ready to learn. You can't get shit out of republicans.

My child's school provide breakfast and lunch and companies provide food for weekend backpacks given to children who are food insecure. These same children were in Headstart and receive Medicaid. Not sure what I am missing here.

There is not enough money to help all the kids who need it. Things vary a lot by state and district.

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Anonymous wrote:He's correct. Ask Black America how schools work for them.

It's not the schools that are the problem. It's the total lack of parental help/involvement in academics. The black kids with parents who are involved in their education do well. Those who depend entirely on the schools don't. No school, including predominantly white ones, will do well if there aren't parents encouraging reading, stressing the importance of doing academic work outside of school, and helping where necessary. The help could include finding free tutoring for areas in which the parent is unable to help. People can bash public schools all they want, but lack of parental involvement is the real issue.

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What % of k-12 children in DC are in public, publc for Wilson/Banneker/School ww/elligton, charter, private?

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Anonymous wrote:Last night Donald Jr. stated that American schools are failing and U.S. students are falling behind other countries because in other countries people have the choice to go to other schools. He blamed teachers unions for the fact that students are "falling behind".

This just doesn't sound correct to me on several levels. Aren't the countries that are improving and overtaking US in education typically unionized? And their teachers are very well paid? In fact, isn't there a Scandinavian country that actually prohibits school choice-- i.e., there are no private schools, you have to send your kid to a public school-- which not much sacrifice because the teachers are super educated and love their jobs)? And country scores far better on international tests than US even though (arguably because) there is no school choice.

I thought the reason other kids are surpassing US kids was because poverty is increasing in US while decreasing in other countries?

No he is correct and it isn't because of poverty. Plenty of information out there for where we fall in compared to other countries and you need to look at our math scores compared to other countries. Math is important on so many levels. I bet the teacher unions are all voting for Hillary.

Not a Trump supporter but Donald Jr. is correct.

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What has a man who claims to be worth TEN BILLION DOLLARS done to advance public education? Oh yeah, jack shit. I'm sure he garnered a deep understanding of the public school system while attending the Hill School. STFU douchebag.

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Well, in some ways, I do agree with him, too. When you have public schools that want to teach Creationism in Science class, there is something deeply wrong with the public school system.

FWIW, I am a Christian.

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I'm sure he has neither knowledge nor interest in public schools or education policy. He just read a generic Republican political speech written by a generic Republican speech writer. The attack on public schools and the comparison to Soviet department stores made it sound like it was written 30 years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:His speech was offensive, particularly the claim that US public education is like "Soviet-era department stores that existed for the benefit of clerks." Similarly, he said that public schools exist for the benefit of teachers. That's a grave misunderstanding of the hard work that American teachers put in, particularly as the party his father wants to run has cut public education dollars around the country.

The cutest part is that this was plagiarized too.

No, it wasn’t. Do some research.

It was. He stole from Buckley. Granted, Buckley probably wrote the speech, but these remarks had been published previously in The American Conservative. I seriously think we are being punk'ed. There is no way this happens two nights in a row.

I guess Obama plagiarized his speech when the same thing happened in 2008, then.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/obama-accused-of-plagiarism-in-speech/

They had the same message, and good intent. And Obama owned it. He didn't blame it on "My Little Pony."

Therein lies the difference.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch his speech but American public schools ARE awful....

I read a study several years back regarding out system compared to Europe. The BIGGEST difference cited was that other countries pay for pre-K, healthcare and provide food. Kids go to school ready to learn. You can't get shit out of republicans.

My child's school provide breakfast and lunch and companies provide food for weekend backpacks given to children who are food insecure. These same children were in Headstart and receive Medicaid. Not sure what I am missing here.

Bingo. There are all kinds of safety nets in place for those who need them. But, for some reason, it hasn’t made a big difference in the quality of education.
I think Donald Trump, Jr. is onto something.

Not only haven't all the safety nets made a difference in the quality of the education, all the social welfare programs put forth by President Johnson's haven't made a dent in poverty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:His speech was offensive, particularly the claim that US public education is like "Soviet-era department stores that existed for the benefit of clerks." Similarly, he said that public schools exist for the benefit of teachers. That's a grave misunderstanding of the hard work that American teachers put in, particularly as the party his father wants to run has cut public education dollars around the country.

Says the teacher during her eight weeks of paid vacation.

Anti-public education folks always throw this line around. FYI-- teachers do not get "paid vacation", they get a salary based on the fact that they work 9 months out of 12 but can opt to have that salary paid out over 12 months. They are treated as hourly employees, however, and do lots of work after their duty hours/on school breaks that they are not compensated for.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch his speech but American public schools ARE awful....

I read a study several years back regarding out system compared to Europe. The BIGGEST difference cited was that other countries pay for pre-K, healthcare and provide food. Kids go to school ready to learn. You can't get shit out of republicans.

My child's school provide breakfast and lunch and companies provide food for weekend backpacks given to children who are food insecure. These same children were in Headstart and receive Medicaid. Not sure what I am missing here.

Bingo. There are all kinds of safety nets in place for those who need them. But, for some reason, it hasn’t made a big difference in the quality of education.
I think Donald Trump, Jr. is onto something.

Not only haven't all the safety nets made a difference in the quality of the education, all the social welfare programs put forth by President Johnson's haven't made a dent in poverty.

Perhaps the Republicsn insistence on dismantling the safety net and community redevelopment programs, which started under Reagan and continued with the acquiescence of Bill Clinton, has had an effect.

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Who here thinks that DC has good public schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch his speech but American public schools ARE awful....

I read a study several years back regarding out system compared to Europe. The BIGGEST difference cited was that other countries pay for pre-K, healthcare and provide food. Kids go to school ready to learn. You can't get shit out of republicans.

My child's school provide breakfast and lunch and companies provide food for weekend backpacks given to children who are food insecure. These same children were in Headstart and receive Medicaid. Not sure what I am missing here.

Bingo. There are all kinds of safety nets in place for those who need them. But, for some reason, it hasn’t made a big difference in the quality of education.
I think Donald Trump, Jr. is onto something.

Not only haven't all the safety nets made a difference in the quality of the education, all the social welfare programs put forth by President Johnson's haven't made a dent in poverty.

Perhaps the Republicsn insistence on dismantling the safety net and community redevelopment programs, which started under Reagan and continued with the acquiescence of Bill Clinton, has had an effect.

Yeah, yeah....blame the Republicans. (It's always someone else's fault.)

First, the rise in the poverty rate in the early 1980s was due to a deep recession, with unemployment above 11%. It followed the high double-digit inflation years of Jimmy Carter.

Second, you're not really defending the Community Reinvestment Act, are you? Tha liberal hogwash that "everyone deserves to buy a house" led to the crisis with the subprime loans - you know, lend money to low-income people to buy houses they can't afford - which in turn crashed the entire economy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't watch his speech but American public schools ARE awful....

I read a study several years back regarding out system compared to Europe. The BIGGEST difference cited was that other countries pay for pre-K, healthcare and provide food. Kids go to school ready to learn. You can't get shit out of republicans.

My child's school provide breakfast and lunch and companies provide food for weekend backpacks given to children who are food insecure. These same children were in Headstart and receive Medicaid. Not sure what I am missing here.

Bingo. There are all kinds of safety nets in place for those who need them. But, for some reason, it hasn’t made a big difference in the quality of education.
I think Donald Trump, Jr. is onto something.

Not only haven't all the safety nets made a difference in the quality of the education, all the social welfare programs put forth by President Johnson's haven't made a dent in poverty.

Perhaps the Republicsn insistence on dismantling the safety net and community redevelopment programs, which started under Reagan and continued with the acquiescence of Bill Clinton, has had an effect.

Yeah, yeah....blame the Republicans. (It's always someone else's fault.)

First, the rise in the poverty rate in the early 1980s was due to a deep recession, with unemployment above 11%. It followed the high double-digit inflation years of Jimmy Carter.

Second, you're not really defending the Community Reinvestment Act, are you? Tha liberal hogwash that "everyone deserves to buy a house" led to the crisis with the subprime loans - you know, lend money to low-income people to buy houses they can't afford - which in turn crashed the entire economy.

Link about how Comm Reinvestment Act led to housing crisis: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-cra-debate-a-users-guide-2009-6