Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Imagine how exhausting it would be to live this way?

I think these types thrive on thinking they are leading women. I don’t think they think it’s exhausting at all. It’s probably exhilarating to have followers fawn all over you.

[Anonymous]

Just saw her pushback post. I missed the original, what were the commenters saying?

And it’s wild to me that she equates having sex as a single woman as the same thing as not being affirming. And she makes those two the same thing so you can’t push back on one without the other. Sex outside of marriage is just fine fine fine now and if you push back then you hate gay people and don’t live a life of love and joy in this happy hilarious community?

Even she has to see how dumb that is.

[Anonymous]

Some of the comments on the original (there are actually a lot on Insta)…way more than she gets in recent years. Not sure if that’s because it was sponsored or people went to it after the pushback post?

Anyways the fawning comments just, I don’t understand them or people who would look to her as some sort of guru or bridge for talking about sex. Does no one know how google works or like to look almost anywhere else?

One woman actually commented that she was a therapist and was curious if this course would be helpful for her and educating her in working with clients with a sexual abuse history, clients that she says she works with all the time. I’m just…flabbergasted.

I genuinely don’t understand it.

Also some people I kind of respected or valued their work post fawning comments at Jen a lot no matter what she says or does and it has made me question them more from a distance.

[Anonymous]

A young influencer can maintain a good living without ever having to sponsor anything. You can make videos of making macaroni in a sink for Pete’s sake. Her engagement is so low that this “backlash” post was absolutely about driving engagement. I shudder to think what things she will continue to post in the next 5-10 years to stay relevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Some of the comments on the original (there are actually a lot on Insta

Also some people I kind of respected or valued their work post fawning comments at Jen a lot no matter what she says or does and it has made me question them more from a distance.

Ugh, yes!!! Those complimentary posts from Ree Drummond, Trisha Yearwood, and Martina McBride all made me think, "stay in your lane, lady! Don't get sucked into the train wreck that is Jen." Plus, I'm sad that she sucked up to them with fawning and presents and they clearly can't see the manipulation.

[Anonymous]

Ah yes, the pampered straight White cisgender lady, throws herself on the cross in sacrifice just so she can raise her bloodied hand to scold anyone who dares challenges her. And her followers wept in gratitude. Jen will rise again.

[Anonymous]

I used to be a real fan of Jen, loved her early books, thought she was a welcome ally between the old stuffy conservative evangelical church and the broader secular world, always still centering on the core gospel.

Now days, though, any woman who still supports her I automatically hold in deep deep suspicion. You are either a fool or fellow fraud.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My mother is a grandiose narcissist- I thank God social media was not around when I was young because I know she would have posted us all over it and behave much like Jen.
The spiral we are watching is nothing surprising as narcissists become more manic as they age. They no longer can rely on their looks, and a lot of people in their circle have finally figured them out and abandoned them to protect themselves. The aging narcissist is grasping at the straws of their youth and trying to be relevant and has no self awareness
I’ve recently done a lot of reading on the aging narcissist because my mother has been increasingly bizarre and it’s pretty eye opening. This is my first time commenting but I felt like I see similar things taking place here

I wanted to respond to this PP because my mother was also a grandiose narcissist. I can completely relate to what you're going through and even though this is some snarky part of the internet, I'd give you a hug if I knew you. You're right about narcissists as they age. They actually get worse because vanity is such a cornerstone for them and they have a difficult time realizing they no longer had the looks they did when they were 25 and they can no longer get away with immaturity. My mom had a sad end and it was difficult to watch because again, you're right. When they get to a certain age, they've alienated everyone because everyone has had to draw boundaries around them. I'm sorry you've had to deal with this. I had to make myself shrink in her presence for so many years because if anyone called attention to me and it took the attention off of her, she'd act out and say mean things to me about my looks when we were alone. So to you I say, always stand tall and be assured that you're not your mother and because of your experiences you most likely took a much different path of authenticity, honesty and privacy. And I know it's difficult because she's your mom and you love her even though she's a narcissist. So from one survivor of a big time narcissistic mom to another, virtual hugs.

Hugs to both of you. Not a survivor but I have some friends who had narc or borderline moms so I’m a little familiar with the hell. All of them became excellent mothers themselves, however!

[Anonymous]

Could we please end the anti-Christianity posts? Like, simply out of respect to the many (majority?) Christ followers on this sub? It’s grown tiresome and there are other subs available for that purpose.

[Anonymous]

Thankful that there is some pushback still showing on Instagram. Lots of fawning and LOTS of praise from agnostic/atheist people, which is telling- that's the tribe now- but still some honest and respectful pushback stating you can't have it both ways.

[Anonymous]

Jen is the Madonna of late career lifestyle influencers. Both had some "hits" a long time ago, both are desperate for continued relevance, both are looking towards shock and sex and stoked public outrage to keep their fame machines going, both are in deep denial, and both hate conservative religious people and the church.

[Anonymous]

What does Jen think she can offer in the way of sex education in 2023?

[Anonymous]

What is everyone predicting for Jen for the rest of 2023?

She hasn't mentioned a book. Will she produce more Me Courses?

Will she and Tyler stay together?
Will she ever find a church that suits her?

[Anonymous]

Her latest post just paints a picture of all “others” with the overwhelming assumption of ideological and political sameness. Nope. Sorry Big Sis.

Also she’s embracing sec outside of marriage. The exact thing that led to the end of her marriage? How does she reconcile that?

[Anonymous]

Doesn't look like there are any more books coming out. She would have humble bragged writing one by now if she had a deal. All about how it's the greatest and most dear and most revelatory thing she'd ever written!

Of course more MeCourses but to diminishing subscriptions.

The clock is ticking on Big Sass and Big Sis. It's not fueling her narc fuel anymore as no one cares and the ones who do care are laughing at it.

Unlikely as Jen built a church already in her own image and even that isn't something she participates in anymore.