Jen Hatmaker
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2022.
The Legacy Collective raised how much $? And then gave away how much $ as a percentage? |
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Jen’s MeCourse on Sex is probably selling terribly on account that no one is asking for sex talks from Big Sis.
So Jen is lashing out wildly cause supposedly she got a little pushback from some evangelicals on a post. But this isn’t 2016 and no one in the evangelical community really cares or listens to Jen anymore from that community. So this is all really just Big Sis lashing out trying to be some sort of hero-victim. Imagine how exhausting it would be to live this way? |
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How many of these sound like Big Sis???!!!
“15 signs of a grandiose narcissistic personality disorder in toxic relationships So what are grandiose narcissism symptoms in relationships? Consider the 15 signs below: 1. Superficial charm One of the primary features of grandiose narcissistic personality disorder is that people with this condition present as incredibly charming. At the beginning of the relationship, they may appear highly attractive and charming. In fact, their charm is usually what helps people with a grandiose narcissistic personality disorder to attract a partner. However, as time goes on, the initial charm fades, and the grandiose narcissist will become cold, callous, and even cruel. 2. They come across as immature Research has shown that grandiose narcissistic personality disorder is associated with immature defense mechanisms. This means that grandiose narcissists can come across as quite immature within the context of a relationship. During arguments, they may demonstrate childlike or even toddler-like behaviors, such as pouting, throwing temper tantrums, or demanding that they have their way. 3. Outbursts of anger Anger is one of the core grandiose narcissists traits. People who show symptoms of grandiose narcissism are likely to have outbursts of anger in response to perceived slights or disagreements. They are also likely to have outbursts of anger disproportionate to the event or trigger that led to the anger. For instance, they may show outbursts of rage in reaction to a small disagreement. 4. Double standards A relationship with a grandiose narcissist is likely to feel one-sided with double standards. They will expect you to devote all your time, energy, and attention to them, but they will give little to you in return. They may also expect extreme loyalty and commitment from you, while they give you only bread crumbs of attention, or they are repeatedly unfaithful. 5. Frequent bragging Grandiose narcissists are known for their frequent bragging. In most social situations, they will take over the conversation and tell everyone about their accomplishments. They may even exaggerate their achievements so long as they remain the center of attention. In a relationship, they will likely remind you how superior they are to you regarding looks, talents, and achievements. They will also be willing to put you down to appear superior. 6. Flashiness People with grandiose narcissistic personality disorder want to have the best of everything. They will come across as extremely flashy, with the best car, clothes, and house. When you’re in a relationship with one, they will likely place their material needs before yours. You might even end up sacrificing your own needs or perhaps going into deep debt to satisfy the material desires of the grandiose narcissist. 7. Sexual promiscuity One telltale sign of grandiose narcissism is sexual promiscuity. The grandiose narcissist is likely to have many sexual encounters, and they are also at high risk of being unfaithful. They may even go so far as to be sexually manipulative, coercing their partner into sexual activity that makes the partner uncomfortable. People in long-term relationships with sexual narcissists may give in to their partner’s sexual demands to keep the relationship going or to prevent the narcissistic partner from cheating. 8. Tendency to blame others Narcissistic grandiosity is associated with a tendency to blame others for one’s shortcomings. When you’re dating a grandiose narcissist, you’ll find that when you give advice or correct them for some sort of wrongdoing, they will shift the blame onto other people. They will not be able to accept accountability and may even become enraged at you if you point out something they’ve done that offended you. 9. Their needs always come first Selfishness is one of the main grandiose narcissist signs. This means that the grandiose narcissist won’t be particularly concerned about your needs. They can only see things from their point of view, which they perceive to be the most important. 10. Lack of empathy Grandiose narcissists aren’t particularly concerned with the feelings of others because they have a hard time showing empathy. It seems they don’t care about your feelings when you’re hurt or upset. They may even come across as cold and heartless because they don’t identify with your feelings. 11. Need for constant admiration A person who is a grandiose narcissist ultimately believes that they are worthy of constant admiration, and they need it to maintain their self-esteem. Being in a relationship with someone like this means you will be expected to shower them with attention, gifts, and compliments. If you don’t meet the grandiose narcissists’ need for attention (which is difficult to do), they won’t hesitate to go elsewhere to meet their needs. 12. Sense of entitlement Being told “no,” or not getting what they want threatens the self-esteem of a grandiose narcissist. They feel they are entitled to having all of their needs met, and they don’t particularly care who they have to take advantage of to achieve this end. 13. Expectation of compliance In relationships, grandiose narcissists do not view you as a person with unique needs and free will. Instead, they view you as an extension of themselves and expect automatic compliance with their demands. They will likely become quite upset if you question them or set a boundary. 14. They’re rigid in their beliefs A grandiose narcissist views themselves as being superior to others, and as such, they believe that their way of thinking is perfect. If you challenge their beliefs, they will become angry and maintain their way of thinking, even when presented with evidence that it’s flawed. They are likely to become hostile if you challenge their belief system. 15. Vindictiveness If you cross a grandiose narcissist, there will likely be consequences. This personality type is incredibly vindictive; they feel people deserve revenge when they make mistakes. A partner with grandiose narcissistic personality disorder will likely punish you for hurting them, even if it was minor or unintentional.” |
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Superficial Charm? Check.
They Come Across As Immature? Check. She proudly says she’s immature. Outbursts Of Anger? Her blowups are well catalogued. The Game Night Table Flip? Double Standards? Check. Jen always sees the splinter in her critic’s eye but never the plank on her own. She attributes the worst possible motives of her opponents. Frequent Bragging? Double check! “Look at me! Look At my magical life!” Flashiness. Half Check. Expensive name brand bags but could be worse. Sexual Promiscuity? Check. She’s all about sex these days! Tendency To Blame Others? Check. The Church, her Ex, Cancel Culture, Trump. Lots of blame for the evils of the world but never ever herself. Their Needs Come First? Check. Jen is all about her MeLife. She’s even branded content around it. Lack Of Empathy? Check. Look how charitable she is towards anyone who doesn’t think or vote like her. They are truly Evil in her eyes. Need For Constant Admiration? Ha ha. Triple Check! Public admiration is her life fuel! She craves it. Sense of Entitlement? Check. Jen is very very entitled. Expectation of Compliance? Check. She can’t even stomach mild criticism and pushback in the socials. Delete! They Are Rigid In Their Beliefs? Check. Good lord there’s absolutely no grace extended towards anyone who doesn’t vote like Jen. They are Evil. She is 100% in all things. Vindictiveness? Check. Big shade constantly towards her ex. Hatred towards her ex fan base. Hated towards the Church and evangelicals and Republicans. She wants them punished. And she’s love to be the one doling out the punishment. It’s personal for her. |
Anonymous
I wanted to respond to this PP because my mother was also a grandiose narcissist. I can completely relate to what you're going through and even though this is some snarky part of the internet, I'd give you a hug if I knew you. You're right about narcissists as they age. They actually get worse because vanity is such a cornerstone for them and they have a difficult time realizing they no longer had the looks they did when they were 25 and they can no longer get away with immaturity. My mom had a sad end and it was difficult to watch because again, you're right. When they get to a certain age, they've alienated everyone because everyone has had to draw boundaries around them. I'm sorry you've had to deal with this. I had to make myself shrink in her presence for so many years because if anyone called attention to me and it took the attention off of her, she'd act out and say mean things to me about my looks when we were alone. So to you I say, always stand tall and be assured that you're not your mother and because of your experiences you most likely took a much different path of authenticity, honesty and privacy. And I know it's difficult because she's your mom and you love her even though she's a narcissist. So from one survivor of a big time narcissistic mom to another, virtual hugs. |
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It all makes sense when you realize Jen truly is a grandiose narcissist. Everything fits.
Is it treatable though? I assume a grandiose narcissist would never see themselves like this. |
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The position of influencer only fuels the narcissism. Her failures as an influencer of late only trigger her already fragile ego leading her worst narc traits to come out.
Narcs tend to come from parents who are too neglectful or too fawning. Her parents are notoriously over fawning of her. |
Anonymous
Yes! Thanks for pointing this out. It’s been her MO for years. She gets bored/feels like no one is listening and drops a bomb to stir up drama. I think she feeds off of it. |
Anonymous
| What does a grandiose narcissist look like as they age? |
Anonymous
| These bombs used to get national press coverage. Now except for some clapping penguin corn-eaters no one really cares. Her impact is thankfully shrinking day to day. And she knows it. |
Anonymous
It’s not a pretty sight. I was the poster who commented on PP’s post about it. It’s a very, very sad and lonely end. The narcissist gets meaner and those who were there previously have all drifted away because they’ve gotten sick of their sh!t. You know how her kids all left when they could? They’ll never come back except for holidays. Her parents will die and her biggest enablers will be gone. The narcissist can’t find a lasting romantic relationship either. It’s not a happy ending. |
Anonymous
| Imagine Larry and Jana’s horror at their daughter’s sex MeCourse with big dildos and life-like rubber vagina molds? They must be quietly hanging their heads in shame. |
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I know someone, also named Jen, who is a Christian “influencer” and the parallels between her and big sis are insane. She left our friend group (and subsequently about 5 others) and on the way out just burns them to the ground. My friend actually surmised she’s a narcissist and it’s crazy to watch both her and big sis live the same pattern over and over.
The influencer life just exponentially fans the flames. It’s fascinating slash maddening to watch happen. The woman in our world is about to release a book which is just comedy that she thinks she has something the world needs to read. The most maddening part, for both Jens, is that they live this life (which ok fine whatever) but try to include Jesus in it and spiritualize everything they do. Just own it. I want to make money and be famous. Just claim it. As annoying as you are, I’d respect that a hell of a lot more than this “all I do is for Jesus while I grift and sell and MLM and self promote.” Gross. |
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I would 100% respect Jen a lot more if she was just honest and said something like “Christianity, for me, is just too toxic and traumatizing to vulnerable people at the margins blah blah blah and I can’t support it anymore so I reject it all and am now an agnostic humanist who just wants to do good in the world.” It’s not like she’s be losing or giving up anything and she’s be way more honest. |
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It’s her hypocrisy people can’t stand.
Does anyone remember her penning these words? Advice obviously for other people to follow but she cannot do it herself. “We can disagree and yet honor one another. We can make opposite choices and yet hold on as brothers and sisters. We can experience tension and remain in community…I crave a spiritual community that can hold tensions with more kindness, more stamina. When you pull one way and I pull another, yes, the line is taut; it would certainly be easier to drop the line altogether. I could better coexist with people of constant like-mindedness, where there is virtually no tension to hold at all. Holding tension stretches me spiritually and emotionally, which involves discomfort, effort and energy.” |