student admissions and TJ lawsuit

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Children cannot choose their parents. Kids should not get a leg up in admissions because they happened to be born to parents who started thinking about TJ and how to best position their child to be accepted there from the time their child entered elementary school.

You're inventing kids who simply don't exist in FCPS. The brilliant, poor kids born to families that don't prioritize education, but who still absolutely belong at TJ would have had to:

-Somehow not be placed in Young Scholar and not get the mentorship and enrichment from that. My kids' school had special field trips, summer camps, pull outs, and other programs for Young Scholars

-Perform poorly on the NNAT and CogAT, noting that completely unprepped, gifted kids ought to get high scores, and noting that it often only takes a 120-ish score to get into AAP from lower SES schools.

-Fail to impress any teachers anywhere in grades K-6. If they had impressed teachers, they would have been flagged for advanced services, a teacher would have referred them for AAP, or the like.

-Fail to qualify for Algebra in 7th, even though IAAT is pretty basic, and study materials are readily available.

-Fail to do any of the STEM extracurriculars, even though at least some are offered for free at every single FCPS middle school.

FCPS casts a very wide net and certainly isn't failing to identify and support gifted, lower income students. At some point, though, the kids have to show some initiative. They're 14 and not babies. If they want to go to a school like TJ, they can sign up for STEM extracurriculars and try to distinguish themselves in some way.

Or, you know, they didn't apply to or declined their offer of admission to TJ because they discovered that it was a hostile environment for kids who look like them.

Because of people with attitudes like the ones you find on DCUM.

I have two boys in middle school that are Black and been in AAP at Center schools since 3rd grade. They have experienced the racism the entire time and lots of micro aggressions from the other nonwhite groups in the program and they don’t want to go to TJ. We have decided to send our kid to a private where they will be more comfortable next year.

The current BS and treatment of Blacks at FCPS is like it was when the schools integrated in the 60’s.

keep fabricating stuff. people should have their IQs checked if they believe you're anyone else who isn't a white liberal.

What makes me a white liberal and what makes me fabricating?

The inconvenience of your lived experience to their precious persecution narrative. There is an obsession now with winning the Oppression Olympics because parts of America are finally reckoning with our horrendous treatment of Black folks for centuries.

I’m just sharing my personal experience. I’ve been sharing my experiences with prejudices and anti-Black racism long before the recent event’s causing discussion. I’ve lived it and don’t want my kids to suffer and be held back the way I was at times because Of it.

Unfortunately, I feel that I need to and have to teach my kids to counteract racism. I don’t Ike seeing any person be mistreated because of the color of their skin the way Black people in the US have been.

You must be for ending blatant discrimination against Asians. Please join Asian American groups and donate to them like many Asians have for black causes including BLM.

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Children cannot choose their parents. Kids should not get a leg up in admissions because they happened to be born to parents who started thinking about TJ and how to best position their child to be accepted there from the time their child entered elementary school.

You're inventing kids who simply don't exist in FCPS. The brilliant, poor kids born to families that don't prioritize education, but who still absolutely belong at TJ would have had to:

-Somehow not be placed in Young Scholar and not get the mentorship and enrichment from that. My kids' school had special field trips, summer camps, pull outs, and other programs for Young Scholars

-Perform poorly on the NNAT and CogAT, noting that completely unprepped, gifted kids ought to get high scores, and noting that it often only takes a 120-ish score to get into AAP from lower SES schools.

-Fail to impress any teachers anywhere in grades K-6. If they had impressed teachers, they would have been flagged for advanced services, a teacher would have referred them for AAP, or the like.

-Fail to qualify for Algebra in 7th, even though IAAT is pretty basic, and study materials are readily available.

-Fail to do any of the STEM extracurriculars, even though at least some are offered for free at every single FCPS middle school.

FCPS casts a very wide net and certainly isn't failing to identify and support gifted, lower income students. At some point, though, the kids have to show some initiative. They're 14 and not babies. If they want to go to a school like TJ, they can sign up for STEM extracurriculars and try to distinguish themselves in some way.

Or, you know, they didn't apply to or declined their offer of admission to TJ because they discovered that it was a hostile environment for kids who look like them.

Because of people with attitudes like the ones you find on DCUM.

I have two boys in middle school that are Black and been in AAP at Center schools since 3rd grade. They have experienced the racism the entire time and lots of micro aggressions from the other nonwhite groups in the program and they don’t want to go to TJ. We have decided to send our kid to a private where they will be more comfortable next year.

The current BS and treatment of Blacks at FCPS is like it was when the schools integrated in the 60’s.

keep fabricating stuff. people should have their IQs checked if they believe you're anyone else who isn't a white liberal.

What makes me a white liberal and what makes me fabricating?

The inconvenience of your lived experience to their precious persecution narrative. There is an obsession now with winning the Oppression Olympics because parts of America are finally reckoning with our horrendous treatment of Black folks for centuries.

I’m just sharing my personal experience. I’ve been sharing my experiences with prejudices and anti-Black racism long before the recent event’s causing discussion. I’ve lived it and don’t want my kids to suffer and be held back the way I was at times because Of it.

Unfortunately, I feel that I need to and have to teach my kids to counteract racism. I don’t Ike seeing any person be mistreated because of the color of their skin the way Black people in the US have been.

Except that it's a fabricated experience from a white liberal liar.

That’s fine. Whoever it is, they are speaking the truth about white supremacy in FCPS and the honorary white supremacists who want to be favored under the system of white supremacy and how they treat the black and brown students.

If any of this is true, file a lawsuit. This thread was started to discuss the discrimination lawsuit filed by Asian students and parents for the discrimination in TJ Admissions. Please find plaintiffs to bring a suit to end the white supremacy and mistreatment of black and brown students you claim exists. We will support you if you can back it up.

If it were as simple as bringing a lawsuit, many issues of white supremacy would have been solved generations ago.

Right! This is Fairfax County and Virginia. Who do you think are a lot of the judges, lawyers, and even jurors? Probably not so sympathetic to anti-Black racism.
The people in this thread aren’t either and most of them call themselves minorities.

Not sure of your point. If it's that the system is racist and the citizenry is too, I disagree. But even accepting that premise, that's what appellate courts are for.

Can you tell me when the Dred Scott ruling was ever overturned?

After the Civil War over 150 years ago. And white women couldn't vote until 1920 but Black men could by 1865, so your rhetoric fails and is a terrible analogy. But I am sure lowering Asian admissions into TJ will help solve all of your perceived ills of society.

The kkk wasn’t using violence and murdering white women who tried to vote. Asians still have a high admissions rate. Some of you Asians would join the kkk if they let you.

Actually, you seem like a classic KKK person. Close minded, hate-filled, and pointing fingers at others for your own problems.

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Children cannot choose their parents. Kids should not get a leg up in admissions because they happened to be born to parents who started thinking about TJ and how to best position their child to be accepted there from the time their child entered elementary school.

You're inventing kids who simply don't exist in FCPS. The brilliant, poor kids born to families that don't prioritize education, but who still absolutely belong at TJ would have had to:

-Somehow not be placed in Young Scholar and not get the mentorship and enrichment from that. My kids' school had special field trips, summer camps, pull outs, and other programs for Young Scholars

-Perform poorly on the NNAT and CogAT, noting that completely unprepped, gifted kids ought to get high scores, and noting that it often only takes a 120-ish score to get into AAP from lower SES schools.

-Fail to impress any teachers anywhere in grades K-6. If they had impressed teachers, they would have been flagged for advanced services, a teacher would have referred them for AAP, or the like.

-Fail to qualify for Algebra in 7th, even though IAAT is pretty basic, and study materials are readily available.

-Fail to do any of the STEM extracurriculars, even though at least some are offered for free at every single FCPS middle school.

FCPS casts a very wide net and certainly isn't failing to identify and support gifted, lower income students. At some point, though, the kids have to show some initiative. They're 14 and not babies. If they want to go to a school like TJ, they can sign up for STEM extracurriculars and try to distinguish themselves in some way.

Or, you know, they didn't apply to or declined their offer of admission to TJ because they discovered that it was a hostile environment for kids who look like them.

Because of people with attitudes like the ones you find on DCUM.

I have two boys in middle school that are Black and been in AAP at Center schools since 3rd grade. They have experienced the racism the entire time and lots of micro aggressions from the other nonwhite groups in the program and they don’t want to go to TJ. We have decided to send our kid to a private where they will be more comfortable next year.

The current BS and treatment of Blacks at FCPS is like it was when the schools integrated in the 60’s.

keep fabricating stuff. people should have their IQs checked if they believe you're anyone else who isn't a white liberal.

What makes me a white liberal and what makes me fabricating?

The inconvenience of your lived experience to their precious persecution narrative. There is an obsession now with winning the Oppression Olympics because parts of America are finally reckoning with our horrendous treatment of Black folks for centuries.

I’m just sharing my personal experience. I’ve been sharing my experiences with prejudices and anti-Black racism long before the recent event’s causing discussion. I’ve lived it and don’t want my kids to suffer and be held back the way I was at times because Of it.

Unfortunately, I feel that I need to and have to teach my kids to counteract racism. I don’t Ike seeing any person be mistreated because of the color of their skin the way Black people in the US have been.

Except that it's a fabricated experience from a white liberal liar.

That’s fine. Whoever it is, they are speaking the truth about white supremacy in FCPS and the honorary white supremacists who want to be favored under the system of white supremacy and how they treat the black and brown students.

If any of this is true, file a lawsuit. This thread was started to discuss the discrimination lawsuit filed by Asian students and parents for the discrimination in TJ Admissions. Please find plaintiffs to bring a suit to end the white supremacy and mistreatment of black and brown students you claim exists. We will support you if you can back it up.

If it were as simple as bringing a lawsuit, many issues of white supremacy would have been solved generations ago.

Right! This is Fairfax County and Virginia. Who do you think are a lot of the judges, lawyers, and even jurors? Probably not so sympathetic to anti-Black racism.
The people in this thread aren’t either and most of them call themselves minorities.

Not sure of your point. If it's that the system is racist and the citizenry is too, I disagree. But even accepting that premise, that's what appellate courts are for.

Can you tell me when the Dred Scott ruling was ever overturned?

After the Civil War over 150 years ago. And white women couldn't vote until 1920 but Black men could by 1865, so your rhetoric fails and is a terrible analogy. But I am sure lowering Asian admissions into TJ will help solve all of your perceived ills of society.

The kkk wasn’t using violence and murdering white women who tried to vote. Asians still have a high admissions rate. Some of you Asians would join the kkk if they let you.

Yes, Southern Democrats did horrible things to some Black Americans. Thankfully, Republicans were able to force the Constitutional guarantee of equality on those horrible Deomcrats.

The Southern Democrats of yesterday became the Southern Republicans of today. Anyone with half a brain knows how Lee Atwater pulled that off.

Thank God for Northern and Western Republicans then.

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Children cannot choose their parents. Kids should not get a leg up in admissions because they happened to be born to parents who started thinking about TJ and how to best position their child to be accepted there from the time their child entered elementary school.

You're inventing kids who simply don't exist in FCPS. The brilliant, poor kids born to families that don't prioritize education, but who still absolutely belong at TJ would have had to:

-Somehow not be placed in Young Scholar and not get the mentorship and enrichment from that. My kids' school had special field trips, summer camps, pull outs, and other programs for Young Scholars

-Perform poorly on the NNAT and CogAT, noting that completely unprepped, gifted kids ought to get high scores, and noting that it often only takes a 120-ish score to get into AAP from lower SES schools.

-Fail to impress any teachers anywhere in grades K-6. If they had impressed teachers, they would have been flagged for advanced services, a teacher would have referred them for AAP, or the like.

-Fail to qualify for Algebra in 7th, even though IAAT is pretty basic, and study materials are readily available.

-Fail to do any of the STEM extracurriculars, even though at least some are offered for free at every single FCPS middle school.

FCPS casts a very wide net and certainly isn't failing to identify and support gifted, lower income students. At some point, though, the kids have to show some initiative. They're 14 and not babies. If they want to go to a school like TJ, they can sign up for STEM extracurriculars and try to distinguish themselves in some way.

Or, you know, they didn't apply to or declined their offer of admission to TJ because they discovered that it was a hostile environment for kids who look like them.

Because of people with attitudes like the ones you find on DCUM.

I have two boys in middle school that are Black and been in AAP at Center schools since 3rd grade. They have experienced the racism the entire time and lots of micro aggressions from the other nonwhite groups in the program and they don’t want to go to TJ. We have decided to send our kid to a private where they will be more comfortable next year.

The current BS and treatment of Blacks at FCPS is like it was when the schools integrated in the 60’s.

keep fabricating stuff. people should have their IQs checked if they believe you're anyone else who isn't a white liberal.

What makes me a white liberal and what makes me fabricating?

The inconvenience of your lived experience to their precious persecution narrative. There is an obsession now with winning the Oppression Olympics because parts of America are finally reckoning with our horrendous treatment of Black folks for centuries.

I’m just sharing my personal experience. I’ve been sharing my experiences with prejudices and anti-Black racism long before the recent event’s causing discussion. I’ve lived it and don’t want my kids to suffer and be held back the way I was at times because Of it.

Unfortunately, I feel that I need to and have to teach my kids to counteract racism. I don’t Ike seeing any person be mistreated because of the color of their skin the way Black people in the US have been.

Except that it's a fabricated experience from a white liberal liar.

That’s fine. Whoever it is, they are speaking the truth about white supremacy in FCPS and the honorary white supremacists who want to be favored under the system of white supremacy and how they treat the black and brown students.

If any of this is true, file a lawsuit. This thread was started to discuss the discrimination lawsuit filed by Asian students and parents for the discrimination in TJ Admissions. Please find plaintiffs to bring a suit to end the white supremacy and mistreatment of black and brown students you claim exists. We will support you if you can back it up.

If it were as simple as bringing a lawsuit, many issues of white supremacy would have been solved generations ago.

Right! This is Fairfax County and Virginia. Who do you think are a lot of the judges, lawyers, and even jurors? Probably not so sympathetic to anti-Black racism.
The people in this thread aren’t either and most of them call themselves minorities.

Not sure of your point. If it's that the system is racist and the citizenry is too, I disagree. But even accepting that premise, that's what appellate courts are for.

Can you tell me when the Dred Scott ruling was ever overturned?

After the Civil War over 150 years ago. And white women couldn't vote until 1920 but Black men could by 1865, so your rhetoric fails and is a terrible analogy. But I am sure lowering Asian admissions into TJ will help solve all of your perceived ills of society.

The kkk wasn’t using violence and murdering white women who tried to vote. Asians still have a high admissions rate. Some of you Asians would join the kkk if they let you.

Yes, Southern Democrats did horrible things to some Black Americans. Thankfully, Republicans were able to force the Constitutional guarantee of equality on those horrible Deomcrats.

The Southern Democrats of yesterday became the Southern Republicans of today. Anyone with half a brain knows how Lee Atwater pulled that off.

Thank God for Northern and Western Republicans then.

Yeah... Republicans don't win too many of those states - at least not the ones where anyone lives.

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Children cannot choose their parents. Kids should not get a leg up in admissions because they happened to be born to parents who started thinking about TJ and how to best position their child to be accepted there from the time their child entered elementary school.

You're inventing kids who simply don't exist in FCPS. The brilliant, poor kids born to families that don't prioritize education, but who still absolutely belong at TJ would have had to:

-Somehow not be placed in Young Scholar and not get the mentorship and enrichment from that. My kids' school had special field trips, summer camps, pull outs, and other programs for Young Scholars

-Perform poorly on the NNAT and CogAT, noting that completely unprepped, gifted kids ought to get high scores, and noting that it often only takes a 120-ish score to get into AAP from lower SES schools.

-Fail to impress any teachers anywhere in grades K-6. If they had impressed teachers, they would have been flagged for advanced services, a teacher would have referred them for AAP, or the like.

-Fail to qualify for Algebra in 7th, even though IAAT is pretty basic, and study materials are readily available.

-Fail to do any of the STEM extracurriculars, even though at least some are offered for free at every single FCPS middle school.

FCPS casts a very wide net and certainly isn't failing to identify and support gifted, lower income students. At some point, though, the kids have to show some initiative. They're 14 and not babies. If they want to go to a school like TJ, they can sign up for STEM extracurriculars and try to distinguish themselves in some way.

Or, you know, they didn't apply to or declined their offer of admission to TJ because they discovered that it was a hostile environment for kids who look like them.

Because of people with attitudes like the ones you find on DCUM.

I have two boys in middle school that are Black and been in AAP at Center schools since 3rd grade. They have experienced the racism the entire time and lots of micro aggressions from the other nonwhite groups in the program and they don’t want to go to TJ. We have decided to send our kid to a private where they will be more comfortable next year.

The current BS and treatment of Blacks at FCPS is like it was when the schools integrated in the 60’s.

keep fabricating stuff. people should have their IQs checked if they believe you're anyone else who isn't a white liberal.

What makes me a white liberal and what makes me fabricating?

The inconvenience of your lived experience to their precious persecution narrative. There is an obsession now with winning the Oppression Olympics because parts of America are finally reckoning with our horrendous treatment of Black folks for centuries.

I’m just sharing my personal experience. I’ve been sharing my experiences with prejudices and anti-Black racism long before the recent event’s causing discussion. I’ve lived it and don’t want my kids to suffer and be held back the way I was at times because Of it.

Unfortunately, I feel that I need to and have to teach my kids to counteract racism. I don’t Ike seeing any person be mistreated because of the color of their skin the way Black people in the US have been.

Except that it's a fabricated experience from a white liberal liar.

That’s fine. Whoever it is, they are speaking the truth about white supremacy in FCPS and the honorary white supremacists who want to be favored under the system of white supremacy and how they treat the black and brown students.

If any of this is true, file a lawsuit. This thread was started to discuss the discrimination lawsuit filed by Asian students and parents for the discrimination in TJ Admissions. Please find plaintiffs to bring a suit to end the white supremacy and mistreatment of black and brown students you claim exists. We will support you if you can back it up.

If it were as simple as bringing a lawsuit, many issues of white supremacy would have been solved generations ago.

Right! This is Fairfax County and Virginia. Who do you think are a lot of the judges, lawyers, and even jurors? Probably not so sympathetic to anti-Black racism.
The people in this thread aren’t either and most of them call themselves minorities.

Not sure of your point. If it's that the system is racist and the citizenry is too, I disagree. But even accepting that premise, that's what appellate courts are for.

Can you tell me when the Dred Scott ruling was ever overturned?

After the Civil War over 150 years ago. And white women couldn't vote until 1920 but Black men could by 1865, so your rhetoric fails and is a terrible analogy. But I am sure lowering Asian admissions into TJ will help solve all of your perceived ills of society.

The kkk wasn’t using violence and murdering white women who tried to vote. Asians still have a high admissions rate. Some of you Asians would join the kkk if they let you.

Yes, Southern Democrats did horrible things to some Black Americans. Thankfully, Republicans were able to force the Constitutional guarantee of equality on those horrible Deomcrats.

The Southern Democrats of yesterday became the Southern Republicans of today. Anyone with half a brain knows how Lee Atwater pulled that off.

Thank God for Northern and Western Republicans then.

Yeah... Republicans don't win too many of those states - at least not the ones where anyone lives.

Still get just as many Senators.

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Children cannot choose their parents. Kids should not get a leg up in admissions because they happened to be born to parents who started thinking about TJ and how to best position their child to be accepted there from the time their child entered elementary school.

You're inventing kids who simply don't exist in FCPS. The brilliant, poor kids born to families that don't prioritize education, but who still absolutely belong at TJ would have had to:

-Somehow not be placed in Young Scholar and not get the mentorship and enrichment from that. My kids' school had special field trips, summer camps, pull outs, and other programs for Young Scholars

-Perform poorly on the NNAT and CogAT, noting that completely unprepped, gifted kids ought to get high scores, and noting that it often only takes a 120-ish score to get into AAP from lower SES schools.

-Fail to impress any teachers anywhere in grades K-6. If they had impressed teachers, they would have been flagged for advanced services, a teacher would have referred them for AAP, or the like.

-Fail to qualify for Algebra in 7th, even though IAAT is pretty basic, and study materials are readily available.

-Fail to do any of the STEM extracurriculars, even though at least some are offered for free at every single FCPS middle school.

FCPS casts a very wide net and certainly isn't failing to identify and support gifted, lower income students. At some point, though, the kids have to show some initiative. They're 14 and not babies. If they want to go to a school like TJ, they can sign up for STEM extracurriculars and try to distinguish themselves in some way.

Or, you know, they didn't apply to or declined their offer of admission to TJ because they discovered that it was a hostile environment for kids who look like them.

Because of people with attitudes like the ones you find on DCUM.

I have two boys in middle school that are Black and been in AAP at Center schools since 3rd grade. They have experienced the racism the entire time and lots of micro aggressions from the other nonwhite groups in the program and they don’t want to go to TJ. We have decided to send our kid to a private where they will be more comfortable next year.

The current BS and treatment of Blacks at FCPS is like it was when the schools integrated in the 60’s.

keep fabricating stuff. people should have their IQs checked if they believe you're anyone else who isn't a white liberal.

What makes me a white liberal and what makes me fabricating?

The inconvenience of your lived experience to their precious persecution narrative. There is an obsession now with winning the Oppression Olympics because parts of America are finally reckoning with our horrendous treatment of Black folks for centuries.

I’m just sharing my personal experience. I’ve been sharing my experiences with prejudices and anti-Black racism long before the recent event’s causing discussion. I’ve lived it and don’t want my kids to suffer and be held back the way I was at times because Of it.

Unfortunately, I feel that I need to and have to teach my kids to counteract racism. I don’t Ike seeing any person be mistreated because of the color of their skin the way Black people in the US have been.

You must be for ending blatant discrimination against Asians. Please join Asian American groups and donate to them like many Asians have for black causes including BLM.

BS! Asians will straight up tell you that they are with the woke movement. And when the say that they are talking about the push for anti-Black racism. There are exceptions, but for some reasons most Asians have a certain vitriol towards Black people.

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Children cannot choose their parents. Kids should not get a leg up in admissions because they happened to be born to parents who started thinking about TJ and how to best position their child to be accepted there from the time their child entered elementary school.

You're inventing kids who simply don't exist in FCPS. The brilliant, poor kids born to families that don't prioritize education, but who still absolutely belong at TJ would have had to:

-Somehow not be placed in Young Scholar and not get the mentorship and enrichment from that. My kids' school had special field trips, summer camps, pull outs, and other programs for Young Scholars

-Perform poorly on the NNAT and CogAT, noting that completely unprepped, gifted kids ought to get high scores, and noting that it often only takes a 120-ish score to get into AAP from lower SES schools.

-Fail to impress any teachers anywhere in grades K-6. If they had impressed teachers, they would have been flagged for advanced services, a teacher would have referred them for AAP, or the like.

-Fail to qualify for Algebra in 7th, even though IAAT is pretty basic, and study materials are readily available.

-Fail to do any of the STEM extracurriculars, even though at least some are offered for free at every single FCPS middle school.

FCPS casts a very wide net and certainly isn't failing to identify and support gifted, lower income students. At some point, though, the kids have to show some initiative. They're 14 and not babies. If they want to go to a school like TJ, they can sign up for STEM extracurriculars and try to distinguish themselves in some way.

Or, you know, they didn't apply to or declined their offer of admission to TJ because they discovered that it was a hostile environment for kids who look like them.

Because of people with attitudes like the ones you find on DCUM.

I have two boys in middle school that are Black and been in AAP at Center schools since 3rd grade. They have experienced the racism the entire time and lots of micro aggressions from the other nonwhite groups in the program and they don’t want to go to TJ. We have decided to send our kid to a private where they will be more comfortable next year.

The current BS and treatment of Blacks at FCPS is like it was when the schools integrated in the 60’s.

keep fabricating stuff. people should have their IQs checked if they believe you're anyone else who isn't a white liberal.

What makes me a white liberal and what makes me fabricating?

The inconvenience of your lived experience to their precious persecution narrative. There is an obsession now with winning the Oppression Olympics because parts of America are finally reckoning with our horrendous treatment of Black folks for centuries.

I’m just sharing my personal experience. I’ve been sharing my experiences with prejudices and anti-Black racism long before the recent event’s causing discussion. I’ve lived it and don’t want my kids to suffer and be held back the way I was at times because Of it.

Unfortunately, I feel that I need to and have to teach my kids to counteract racism. I don’t Ike seeing any person be mistreated because of the color of their skin the way Black people in the US have been.

You must be for ending blatant discrimination against Asians. Please join Asian American groups and donate to them like many Asians have for black causes including BLM.

BS! Asians will straight up tell you that they are with the woke movement. And when the say that they are talking about the push for anti-Black racism. There are exceptions, but for some reasons most Asians have a certain vitriol towards Black people.

I don't understand

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Children cannot choose their parents. Kids should not get a leg up in admissions because they happened to be born to parents who started thinking about TJ and how to best position their child to be accepted there from the time their child entered elementary school.

You're inventing kids who simply don't exist in FCPS. The brilliant, poor kids born to families that don't prioritize education, but who still absolutely belong at TJ would have had to:

-Somehow not be placed in Young Scholar and not get the mentorship and enrichment from that. My kids' school had special field trips, summer camps, pull outs, and other programs for Young Scholars

-Perform poorly on the NNAT and CogAT, noting that completely unprepped, gifted kids ought to get high scores, and noting that it often only takes a 120-ish score to get into AAP from lower SES schools.

-Fail to impress any teachers anywhere in grades K-6. If they had impressed teachers, they would have been flagged for advanced services, a teacher would have referred them for AAP, or the like.

-Fail to qualify for Algebra in 7th, even though IAAT is pretty basic, and study materials are readily available.

-Fail to do any of the STEM extracurriculars, even though at least some are offered for free at every single FCPS middle school.

FCPS casts a very wide net and certainly isn't failing to identify and support gifted, lower income students. At some point, though, the kids have to show some initiative. They're 14 and not babies. If they want to go to a school like TJ, they can sign up for STEM extracurriculars and try to distinguish themselves in some way.

Or, you know, they didn't apply to or declined their offer of admission to TJ because they discovered that it was a hostile environment for kids who look like them.

Because of people with attitudes like the ones you find on DCUM.

I have two boys in middle school that are Black and been in AAP at Center schools since 3rd grade. They have experienced the racism the entire time and lots of micro aggressions from the other nonwhite groups in the program and they don’t want to go to TJ. We have decided to send our kid to a private where they will be more comfortable next year.

The current BS and treatment of Blacks at FCPS is like it was when the schools integrated in the 60’s.

keep fabricating stuff. people should have their IQs checked if they believe you're anyone else who isn't a white liberal.

What makes me a white liberal and what makes me fabricating?

The inconvenience of your lived experience to their precious persecution narrative. There is an obsession now with winning the Oppression Olympics because parts of America are finally reckoning with our horrendous treatment of Black folks for centuries.

I’m just sharing my personal experience. I’ve been sharing my experiences with prejudices and anti-Black racism long before the recent event’s causing discussion. I’ve lived it and don’t want my kids to suffer and be held back the way I was at times because Of it.

Unfortunately, I feel that I need to and have to teach my kids to counteract racism. I don’t Ike seeing any person be mistreated because of the color of their skin the way Black people in the US have been.

You must be for ending blatant discrimination against Asians. Please join Asian American groups and donate to them like many Asians have for black causes including BLM.

BS! Asians will straight up tell you that they are with the woke movement. And when the say that they are talking about the push for anti-Black racism. There are exceptions, but for some reasons most Asians have a certain vitriol towards Black people.

I think you are projecting.

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Children cannot choose their parents. Kids should not get a leg up in admissions because they happened to be born to parents who started thinking about TJ and how to best position their child to be accepted there from the time their child entered elementary school.

You're inventing kids who simply don't exist in FCPS. The brilliant, poor kids born to families that don't prioritize education, but who still absolutely belong at TJ would have had to:

-Somehow not be placed in Young Scholar and not get the mentorship and enrichment from that. My kids' school had special field trips, summer camps, pull outs, and other programs for Young Scholars

-Perform poorly on the NNAT and CogAT, noting that completely unprepped, gifted kids ought to get high scores, and noting that it often only takes a 120-ish score to get into AAP from lower SES schools.

-Fail to impress any teachers anywhere in grades K-6. If they had impressed teachers, they would have been flagged for advanced services, a teacher would have referred them for AAP, or the like.

-Fail to qualify for Algebra in 7th, even though IAAT is pretty basic, and study materials are readily available.

-Fail to do any of the STEM extracurriculars, even though at least some are offered for free at every single FCPS middle school.

FCPS casts a very wide net and certainly isn't failing to identify and support gifted, lower income students. At some point, though, the kids have to show some initiative. They're 14 and not babies. If they want to go to a school like TJ, they can sign up for STEM extracurriculars and try to distinguish themselves in some way.

Or, you know, they didn't apply to or declined their offer of admission to TJ because they discovered that it was a hostile environment for kids who look like them.

Because of people with attitudes like the ones you find on DCUM.

I have two boys in middle school that are Black and been in AAP at Center schools since 3rd grade. They have experienced the racism the entire time and lots of micro aggressions from the other nonwhite groups in the program and they don’t want to go to TJ. We have decided to send our kid to a private where they will be more comfortable next year.

The current BS and treatment of Blacks at FCPS is like it was when the schools integrated in the 60’s.

keep fabricating stuff. people should have their IQs checked if they believe you're anyone else who isn't a white liberal.

What makes me a white liberal and what makes me fabricating?

The inconvenience of your lived experience to their precious persecution narrative. There is an obsession now with winning the Oppression Olympics because parts of America are finally reckoning with our horrendous treatment of Black folks for centuries.

I’m just sharing my personal experience. I’ve been sharing my experiences with prejudices and anti-Black racism long before the recent event’s causing discussion. I’ve lived it and don’t want my kids to suffer and be held back the way I was at times because Of it.

Unfortunately, I feel that I need to and have to teach my kids to counteract racism. I don’t Ike seeing any person be mistreated because of the color of their skin the way Black people in the US have been.

You must be for ending blatant discrimination against Asians. Please join Asian American groups and donate to them like many Asians have for black causes including BLM.

BS! Asians will straight up tell you that they are with the woke movement. And when the say that they are talking about the push for anti-Black racism. There are exceptions, but for some reasons most Asians have a certain vitriol towards Black people.

I think you are projecting.

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Children cannot choose their parents. Kids should not get a leg up in admissions because they happened to be born to parents who started thinking about TJ and how to best position their child to be accepted there from the time their child entered elementary school.

You're inventing kids who simply don't exist in FCPS. The brilliant, poor kids born to families that don't prioritize education, but who still absolutely belong at TJ would have had to:

-Somehow not be placed in Young Scholar and not get the mentorship and enrichment from that. My kids' school had special field trips, summer camps, pull outs, and other programs for Young Scholars

-Perform poorly on the NNAT and CogAT, noting that completely unprepped, gifted kids ought to get high scores, and noting that it often only takes a 120-ish score to get into AAP from lower SES schools.

-Fail to impress any teachers anywhere in grades K-6. If they had impressed teachers, they would have been flagged for advanced services, a teacher would have referred them for AAP, or the like.

-Fail to qualify for Algebra in 7th, even though IAAT is pretty basic, and study materials are readily available.

-Fail to do any of the STEM extracurriculars, even though at least some are offered for free at every single FCPS middle school.

FCPS casts a very wide net and certainly isn't failing to identify and support gifted, lower income students. At some point, though, the kids have to show some initiative. They're 14 and not babies. If they want to go to a school like TJ, they can sign up for STEM extracurriculars and try to distinguish themselves in some way.

Or, you know, they didn't apply to or declined their offer of admission to TJ because they discovered that it was a hostile environment for kids who look like them.

Because of people with attitudes like the ones you find on DCUM.

I have two boys in middle school that are Black and been in AAP at Center schools since 3rd grade. They have experienced the racism the entire time and lots of micro aggressions from the other nonwhite groups in the program and they don’t want to go to TJ. We have decided to send our kid to a private where they will be more comfortable next year.

The current BS and treatment of Blacks at FCPS is like it was when the schools integrated in the 60’s.

keep fabricating stuff. people should have their IQs checked if they believe you're anyone else who isn't a white liberal.

What makes me a white liberal and what makes me fabricating?

The inconvenience of your lived experience to their precious persecution narrative. There is an obsession now with winning the Oppression Olympics because parts of America are finally reckoning with our horrendous treatment of Black folks for centuries.

I’m just sharing my personal experience. I’ve been sharing my experiences with prejudices and anti-Black racism long before the recent event’s causing discussion. I’ve lived it and don’t want my kids to suffer and be held back the way I was at times because Of it.

Unfortunately, I feel that I need to and have to teach my kids to counteract racism. I don’t Ike seeing any person be mistreated because of the color of their skin the way Black people in the US have been.

Except that it's a fabricated experience from a white liberal liar.

NP.

I agree.

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Children cannot choose their parents. Kids should not get a leg up in admissions because they happened to be born to parents who started thinking about TJ and how to best position their child to be accepted there from the time their child entered elementary school.

You're inventing kids who simply don't exist in FCPS. The brilliant, poor kids born to families that don't prioritize education, but who still absolutely belong at TJ would have had to:

-Somehow not be placed in Young Scholar and not get the mentorship and enrichment from that. My kids' school had special field trips, summer camps, pull outs, and other programs for Young Scholars

-Perform poorly on the NNAT and CogAT, noting that completely unprepped, gifted kids ought to get high scores, and noting that it often only takes a 120-ish score to get into AAP from lower SES schools.

-Fail to impress any teachers anywhere in grades K-6. If they had impressed teachers, they would have been flagged for advanced services, a teacher would have referred them for AAP, or the like.

-Fail to qualify for Algebra in 7th, even though IAAT is pretty basic, and study materials are readily available.

-Fail to do any of the STEM extracurriculars, even though at least some are offered for free at every single FCPS middle school.

FCPS casts a very wide net and certainly isn't failing to identify and support gifted, lower income students. At some point, though, the kids have to show some initiative. They're 14 and not babies. If they want to go to a school like TJ, they can sign up for STEM extracurriculars and try to distinguish themselves in some way.

Or, you know, they didn't apply to or declined their offer of admission to TJ because they discovered that it was a hostile environment for kids who look like them.

Because of people with attitudes like the ones you find on DCUM.

I have two boys in middle school that are Black and been in AAP at Center schools since 3rd grade. They have experienced the racism the entire time and lots of micro aggressions from the other nonwhite groups in the program and they don’t want to go to TJ. We have decided to send our kid to a private where they will be more comfortable next year.

The current BS and treatment of Blacks at FCPS is like it was when the schools integrated in the 60’s.

keep fabricating stuff. people should have their IQs checked if they believe you're anyone else who isn't a white liberal.

What makes me a white liberal and what makes me fabricating?

The inconvenience of your lived experience to their precious persecution narrative. There is an obsession now with winning the Oppression Olympics because parts of America are finally reckoning with our horrendous treatment of Black folks for centuries.

I’m just sharing my personal experience. I’ve been sharing my experiences with prejudices and anti-Black racism long before the recent event’s causing discussion. I’ve lived it and don’t want my kids to suffer and be held back the way I was at times because Of it.

Unfortunately, I feel that I need to and have to teach my kids to counteract racism. I don’t Ike seeing any person be mistreated because of the color of their skin the way Black people in the US have been.

Except that it's a fabricated experience from a white liberal liar.

NP.

I agree.

DP. I also concur.

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Children cannot choose their parents. Kids should not get a leg up in admissions because they happened to be born to parents who started thinking about TJ and how to best position their child to be accepted there from the time their child entered elementary school.

You're inventing kids who simply don't exist in FCPS. The brilliant, poor kids born to families that don't prioritize education, but who still absolutely belong at TJ would have had to:

-Somehow not be placed in Young Scholar and not get the mentorship and enrichment from that. My kids' school had special field trips, summer camps, pull outs, and other programs for Young Scholars

-Perform poorly on the NNAT and CogAT, noting that completely unprepped, gifted kids ought to get high scores, and noting that it often only takes a 120-ish score to get into AAP from lower SES schools.

-Fail to impress any teachers anywhere in grades K-6. If they had impressed teachers, they would have been flagged for advanced services, a teacher would have referred them for AAP, or the like.

-Fail to qualify for Algebra in 7th, even though IAAT is pretty basic, and study materials are readily available.

-Fail to do any of the STEM extracurriculars, even though at least some are offered for free at every single FCPS middle school.

FCPS casts a very wide net and certainly isn't failing to identify and support gifted, lower income students. At some point, though, the kids have to show some initiative. They're 14 and not babies. If they want to go to a school like TJ, they can sign up for STEM extracurriculars and try to distinguish themselves in some way.

Or, you know, they didn't apply to or declined their offer of admission to TJ because they discovered that it was a hostile environment for kids who look like them.

Because of people with attitudes like the ones you find on DCUM.

I have two boys in middle school that are Black and been in AAP at Center schools since 3rd grade. They have experienced the racism the entire time and lots of micro aggressions from the other nonwhite groups in the program and they don’t want to go to TJ. We have decided to send our kid to a private where they will be more comfortable next year.

The current BS and treatment of Blacks at FCPS is like it was when the schools integrated in the 60’s.

keep fabricating stuff. people should have their IQs checked if they believe you're anyone else who isn't a white liberal.

What makes me a white liberal and what makes me fabricating?

The inconvenience of your lived experience to their precious persecution narrative. There is an obsession now with winning the Oppression Olympics because parts of America are finally reckoning with our horrendous treatment of Black folks for centuries.

I’m just sharing my personal experience. I’ve been sharing my experiences with prejudices and anti-Black racism long before the recent event’s causing discussion. I’ve lived it and don’t want my kids to suffer and be held back the way I was at times because Of it.

Unfortunately, I feel that I need to and have to teach my kids to counteract racism. I don’t Ike seeing any person be mistreated because of the color of their skin the way Black people in the US have been.

Except that it's a fabricated experience from a white liberal liar.

That’s fine. Whoever it is, they are speaking the truth about white supremacy in FCPS and the honorary white supremacists who want to be favored under the system of white supremacy and how they treat the black and brown students.

If any of this is true, file a lawsuit. This thread was started to discuss the discrimination lawsuit filed by Asian students and parents for the discrimination in TJ Admissions. Please find plaintiffs to bring a suit to end the white supremacy and mistreatment of black and brown students you claim exists. We will support you if you can back it up.

If it were as simple as bringing a lawsuit, many issues of white supremacy would have been solved generations ago.

Right! This is Fairfax County and Virginia. Who do you think are a lot of the judges, lawyers, and even jurors? Probably not so sympathetic to anti-Black racism.
The people in this thread aren’t either and most of them call themselves minorities.

Not sure of your point. If it's that the system is racist and the citizenry is too, I disagree. But even accepting that premise, that's what appellate courts are for.

Can you tell me when the Dred Scott ruling was ever overturned?

After the Civil War over 150 years ago. And white women couldn't vote until 1920 but Black men could by 1865, so your rhetoric fails and is a terrible analogy. But I am sure lowering Asian admissions into TJ will help solve all of your perceived ills of society.

The kkk wasn’t using violence and murdering white women who tried to vote. Asians still have a high admissions rate. Some of you Asians would join the kkk if they let you.

Actually, you seem like a classic KKK person. Close minded, hate-filled, and pointing fingers at others for your own problems.

The people complaining about the issue at hand are blaming others for their own problems

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This parent coaches being the gatekeepers happens A LOT in Elementary School, exp…Science Olympiad, Math Counts, FLL, CompSci competitions.
Then when the students go to Middle School and try out with the Teacher Coaches…those preferred kids get to check “experience” next to the forms and have a leg up on other kids.

Anyone can sign up for AMC8 through FCAG or through any school or program offering the test. Anyone can sign up for CML as a homeschooler, Math Kangaroo, or mathleague. Anyone can get a free AoPS account and use alcumus, Mathcounts trainer app, FTW, or any of the forums there. If Mathcounts and Science Olympiad are handled properly, selection should be competitive and based on performance on a test. I'm not saying that gatekeeping isn't happening, but a motivated family should be able to work around it.

You’re presuming reliable internet access and the technology to be able to run those apps or programs. That’s not a given for many of these families.

But they can afford $1,000 sneakers?

Sneakers

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This parent coaches being the gatekeepers happens A LOT in Elementary School, exp…Science Olympiad, Math Counts, FLL, CompSci competitions.
Then when the students go to Middle School and try out with the Teacher Coaches…those preferred kids get to check “experience” next to the forms and have a leg up on other kids.

Anyone can sign up for AMC8 through FCAG or through any school or program offering the test. Anyone can sign up for CML as a homeschooler, Math Kangaroo, or mathleague. Anyone can get a free AoPS account and use alcumus, Mathcounts trainer app, FTW, or any of the forums there. If Mathcounts and Science Olympiad are handled properly, selection should be competitive and based on performance on a test. I'm not saying that gatekeeping isn't happening, but a motivated family should be able to work around it.

You’re presuming reliable internet access and the technology to be able to run those apps or programs. That’s not a given for many of these families.

But they can afford $1,000 sneakers?

Sneakers

You digged out a 2022 thread ? Sneakers is an integral part of our culture. Whether I spend $1000 or $10,000, it's my money, my business. I don't care what you or others think.
"If you look back at when sneakers became very popular from a style perspective. It wholeheartedly includes Black culture. And I think that is because when you look at the roots of the sneaker culture, it definitely came from hip hop culture"
https://textiles.ncsu.edu/news/2023/02/how-black-culture-and-black-history-inform-sneakerhead-culture/

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This parent coaches being the gatekeepers happens A LOT in Elementary School, exp…Science Olympiad, Math Counts, FLL, CompSci competitions.
Then when the students go to Middle School and try out with the Teacher Coaches…those preferred kids get to check “experience” next to the forms and have a leg up on other kids.

Anyone can sign up for AMC8 through FCAG or through any school or program offering the test. Anyone can sign up for CML as a homeschooler, Math Kangaroo, or mathleague. Anyone can get a free AoPS account and use alcumus, Mathcounts trainer app, FTW, or any of the forums there. If Mathcounts and Science Olympiad are handled properly, selection should be competitive and based on performance on a test. I'm not saying that gatekeeping isn't happening, but a motivated family should be able to work around it.

You’re presuming reliable internet access and the technology to be able to run those apps or programs. That’s not a given for many of these families.

But they can afford $1,000 sneakers?

Sneakers

You digged out a 2022 thread ? Sneakers is an integral part of our culture. Whether I spend $1000 or $10,000, it's my money, my business. I don't care what you or others think.
"If you look back at when sneakers became very popular from a style perspective. It wholeheartedly includes Black culture. And I think that is because when you look at the roots of the sneaker culture, it definitely came from hip hop culture"
https://textiles.ncsu.edu/news/2023/02/how-black-culture-and-black-history-inform-sneakerhead-culture/

There have been countless posts pushing racist tropes on TJ threads over the years. Many were deleted or locked.

Just because you’re ok with them doesn’t mean the rest of us are.