2021 AAP Admissions Thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm very confused. A NNAt score of 122 is not "in pool". How can the child be in AAP level IV without parent referral?

Yeah. That didn’t happen.

Teachers can also refer a kid. Happens less often than parent referral but it does happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm very confused. A NNAt score of 122 is not "in pool". How can the child be in AAP level IV without parent referral?

Yeah. That didn’t happen.

Teachers can also refer a kid. Happens less often than parent referral but it does happen.

I was not aware of that, but PP made it sound like there was no parental involvement. At minimum, that would have to have been notified. Per the FCPS AAP website:

A referral form is required for any student (grades 2-7) whose parent would like them screened for full-time services but is not in the 2nd grade screening pool. Parents will be notified by the local school if their 2nd grade student is in the pool. Notification of the screening pool will happen after the closure of the referral window. If your student is in the screening pool and you have submitted a referral form, that referral form will still be considered as a part of the holistic screening file.

Also, parent indicates that 2nd grade child is in Level IV. Somebody is confused. I don’t have a doh in this fight, but this day is so fraught with questions that I don’t think misinformation helps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm very confused. A NNAt score of 122 is not "in pool". How can the child be in AAP level IV without parent referral?

Yeah. That didn’t happen.

Teachers can also refer a kid. Happens less often than parent referral but it does happen.

I was not aware of that, but PP made it sound like there was no parental involvement. At minimum, that would have to have been notified. Per the FCPS AAP website:

A referral form is required for any student (grades 2-7) whose parent would like them screened for full-time services but is not in the 2nd grade screening pool. Parents will be notified by the local school if their 2nd grade student is in the pool. Notification of the screening pool will happen after the closure of the referral window. If your student is in the screening pool and you have submitted a referral form, that referral form will still be considered as a part of the holistic screening file.

Also, parent indicates that 2nd grade child is in Level IV. Somebody is confused. I don’t have a doh in this fight, but this day is so fraught with questions that I don’t think misinformation helps.

Child is currently in 2nd grade and was accepted to level IV for next year.

[Anonymous]

NNAT 120 parent referred with work samples - OUT
Nice GBRS comments with all FO
Level 2 servies in 2nd grade

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm very confused. A NNAt score of 122 is not "in pool". How can the child be in AAP level IV without parent referral?

Teacher referral.

[Anonymous]

- second grade
- NNAT 127
- parents referral
- gBRS- 3CO 1FO
Not in

[Anonymous]

IN at home/LIV center school

- 2nd grade
- NNAT 126
- Parent referral
- No idea on GBRS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IN from Home School!

We pulled my daughter out of FCPS this year to homeschool so this was a parent referral.

2nd Grade
NNAT 143
GBRS 2 CO 2 FO (Filled out by me- the teacher!)
Lots of good work samples
1 Standardized test score- California Achievement Test- 99th percentile

This is bullshit - a homeschool parent is going to do everything for their child.

The parent didn't take the NNAT for them. That's a good score.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NNAT : 150
Reports: all 4
GBRS: dont know but strong

Not in


Has anyone figured out any logic? What is the success of appeals? What can we do to make the appeal successful?

We are in a similar boat. We had NNAT of 150 and NOT IN.

I got the GBRS today and 2 sections showed "Frequently observed" and 2 sections as "Occasionally observed".
Not sure what it means. Can someone please explain GBRS based on it?

They are based on teacher observations. 2 Occasionally Observed is unfortunately your kiss of death. There shouldnt be any--from what i can tell.

Not In
NNAT 149

If GBRS has "Occasionally Observed" - can we discuss with teacher or AART to upgrade GBRS or can anything else be done - so it will have less impact when we Appeal?

[Anonymous]

I would read the GBRS answers and address that specific issue in your appeal. Do not say that the BGRS were wrong but provide examples that show that your kid is stronger in those areas then the GBRS show. Get work samples that show your right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Both my kids are in Level IV so I have no chip on my shoulder, and I’m not sure how many of these posts are fake, but the idea that a kid got in with NNAT 119 and another got rejected with NNAT 140 is ABSURD. There should be no level of weight placed on a GBRS that can justify anywhere near that discrepancy. Absolutely embarrassing, and I assume just one more step toward eliminating any sense of meritocracy or achievement in our society. Congratulations America and FCPS

NNAT is not everything. A kid can have a bad day but otherwise he obviously brilliant. NNAT is just a tiny snapshot of one morning in a kid’s life. On the flip side, NNAT can also be gamed easily. I had a kid once do the whole thing in less than 3 minutes and get a perfect score. She said she had been practicing the same “online flash cards” for a while with her mom. It is possible for a parent to cheat and access the test as a “homeschooler”. GBRS and NNAT are both part of the mix But not everything for a Good reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How long does it typically take for AART to respond back with the GBRS packet? My child was never going to get into AAP but we parent referred anyway (too far behind in reading and low NNAT). I'm curious what they submitted on her behalf though.

I’m just curious, why did your parent refer when you knew that your child would never get into AAP? It sounds like you knew that he is not in need of more challenge, but you want to get your hands on a teacher’s assessment of his intelligence.

[Anonymous]

IN

2nd
NNAT 131
Parent referral, mediocre work sample
No idea GBRS but I guess they were good. I honestly did not expect him to get in this year. He’s v quiet online so I didn’t know how they could justify high GBRS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NNAT : 150
Reports: all 4
GBRS: dont know but strong

Not in


Has anyone figured out any logic? What is the success of appeals? What can we do to make the appeal successful?

We are in a similar boat. We had NNAT of 150 and NOT IN.

I got the GBRS today and 2 sections showed "Frequently observed" and 2 sections as "Occasionally observed".
Not sure what it means. Can someone please explain GBRS based on it?

They are based on teacher observations. 2 Occasionally Observed is unfortunately your kiss of death. There shouldnt be any--from what i can tell.

Not In
NNAT 149

If GBRS has "Occasionally Observed" - can we discuss with teacher or AART to upgrade GBRS or can anything else be done - so it will have less impact when we Appeal?

No, it can’t be changed and local AART and teacher have nothing to do with appeals.

[Anonymous]

This year, our school had a virtual AAP “town hall” for 2nd grade parents. The AART stressed the GBRS was determined by a panel of teachers and admin at the school(so not just your child’s teacher) The panel was made up of, child’s main teacher, specials teachers, input from 1st grade teacher, admin and the AART. Our AART met with each 2nd grade class every week up until packets were due. She would give the class a lesson, put the kids in breakout rooms, and have them do creative assignments, ask the questions on the spot etc. It really was all gauged towards getting to know each kid and most likely the AAP packet.