Waitlist Movements

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of admission consultants are also calling it an "informal ED3" or "ED3 type" when the school asks the school-based counselor or student in advance of making the offer if the kid is 100% committed to accepting. If the counselor/student say yes, the student gets an acceptance in their portal that they are expected to accept. If a school-based counselor or student leads a college to believe they're 100% in and they're not and they don't end up accepting, it could hurt the credibility of the school with that college the following year.

That just shows a misunderstanding of a something extremely basic element of college admissions.

No commitment is being made upfront. That is the fundamental part of “early decision.”

Calling something ED3 implies that a student has to commit upfront to attend. They do not. They are simply being asked if they are still interested in the school. They can still say no if they get an offer.

It is crazy that anyone who takes money for their guidance would further that term.

You have a choice here. Do you further this ridiculousness or do you push back?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They rightly want to lock things down and get started on next year’s class. It makes sense to give a short turnaround. If you remain on the WL you are basically saying you want them so you shouldn’t need more than 24 hours to decide. Period. My kid got off an Ivy WL in a prior year and accepted on the spot. It’s true it’s not binding because you didn’t sign an ED contract so it’s not ED3, it’s a typical WL offer.

+1

I told my kid to just accept on the call and think about it more thoroughly that night.

A verbal yes is no more “binding” than the written acceptance and deposit already placed at another university.

Kid loved the WL school but I wanted to take the pressure off and give them some time to think through this big decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of admission consultants are also calling it an "informal ED3" or "ED3 type" when the school asks the school-based counselor or student in advance of making the offer if the kid is 100% committed to accepting. If the counselor/student say yes, the student gets an acceptance in their portal that they are expected to accept. If a school-based counselor or student leads a college to believe they're 100% in and they're not and they don't end up accepting, it could hurt the credibility of the school with that college the following year.

That just shows a misunderstanding of a something extremely basic element of college admissions.

No commitment is being made upfront. That is the fundamental part of “early decision.”

Calling something ED3 implies that a student has to commit upfront to attend. They do not. They are simply being asked if they are still interested in the school. They can still say no if they get an offer.

It is crazy that anyone who takes money for their guidance would further that term.

You have a choice here. Do you further this ridiculousness or do you push back?

It's not the parents who are coming up with this nomenclature. It's college admissions professionals. Why is it the parents job to "push back"? We have enough to do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A lot of admission consultants are also calling it an "informal ED3" or "ED3 type" when the school asks the school-based counselor or student in advance of making the offer if the kid is 100% committed to accepting. If the counselor/student say yes, the student gets an acceptance in their portal that they are expected to accept. If a school-based counselor or student leads a college to believe they're 100% in and they're not and they don't end up accepting, it could hurt the credibility of the school with that college the following year.

Pretty amazing that admissions consultants are at best perpetuating and at worst creating a climate of fear that benefits the schools. Whom do these consultants work for again?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of admission consultants are also calling it an "informal ED3" or "ED3 type" when the school asks the school-based counselor or student in advance of making the offer if the kid is 100% committed to accepting. If the counselor/student say yes, the student gets an acceptance in their portal that they are expected to accept. If a school-based counselor or student leads a college to believe they're 100% in and they're not and they don't end up accepting, it could hurt the credibility of the school with that college the following year.

Pretty amazing that admissions consultants are at best perpetuating and at worst creating a climate of fear that benefits the schools. Whom do these consultants work for again?

It obviously sounds like a feeder private where counselor has a close relationship with the AOs. A school like that would also restrict students from applying to too many colleges to reduce competition. Not sure why there is so much back and forth on this topic. If my DC were in that school I’d have had already discussed their top choices so they could say Yes or No accordingly and we’d be grateful for the pipeline to the top colleges. If there is an honor code, I’d recommend my DC to follow it. I don’t see it as deceptive or fear based.
This obviously is not how it plays out at most schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of admission consultants are also calling it an "informal ED3" or "ED3 type" when the school asks the school-based counselor or student in advance of making the offer if the kid is 100% committed to accepting. If the counselor/student say yes, the student gets an acceptance in their portal that they are expected to accept. If a school-based counselor or student leads a college to believe they're 100% in and they're not and they don't end up accepting, it could hurt the credibility of the school with that college the following year.

Pretty amazing that admissions consultants are at best perpetuating and at worst creating a climate of fear that benefits the schools. Whom do these consultants work for again?

It obviously sounds like a feeder private where counselor has a close relationship with the AOs. A school like that would also restrict students from applying to too many colleges to reduce competition. Not sure why there is so much back and forth on this topic. If my DC were in that school I’d have had already discussed their top choices so they could say Yes or No accordingly and we’d be grateful for the pipeline to the top colleges. If there is an honor code, I’d recommend my DC to follow it. I don’t see it as deceptive or fear based.
This obviously is not how it plays out at most schools.

Admissions consultant is not the same as a private school counselor.

[Anonymous]

BU seems to be moving quite a bit.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A lot of admission consultants are also calling it an "informal ED3" or "ED3 type" when the school asks the school-based counselor or student in advance of making the offer if the kid is 100% committed to accepting. If the counselor/student say yes, the student gets an acceptance in their portal that they are expected to accept. If a school-based counselor or student leads a college to believe they're 100% in and they're not and they don't end up accepting, it could hurt the credibility of the school with that college the following year.

Pretty amazing that admissions consultants are at best perpetuating and at worst creating a climate of fear that benefits the schools. Whom do these consultants work for again?

The etiquette around college admissions is pretty severe. Despite all claims to the contrary, college admissions are a large part of the draw for private schools and the right private can the needle enough so that all things being equal, their graduates get accepted over an equally qualified public school candidate.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:BU seems to be moving quite a bit.....

BU offered a ton of spring admits this year and option to transfer in after a year of community college. Wild.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BU seems to be moving quite a bit.....

BU offered a ton of spring admits this year and option to transfer in after a year of community college. Wild.

I don't think anyone will take them up on that offer.

[Anonymous]

Notre Dame is offering spots this week

[Anonymous]

In at Princeton from WL.

[Anonymous]

Know a Kid in at ND off the WL who went back and asked for more money before accepting and got it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In at Princeton from WL.

wow!!
major?

[Anonymous]

Lax bro, Tigers have really upped their game!