Israel strikes Iran despite Trump's nuclear deal hopes

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Anonymous wrote:The irony of these strikes on Iran is that Iran needs a nuclear bomb in order to prevent the bombing of their country. Iran has always said they did not want uranium for nukes, they should reconsider and do a Pakistan.

Because Iran would only ever use nuclear weapons in self-defense, and never to advance its clearly stated goal of annihilating Israel, the Great Satan, and other Western countries which fail to accept its vision of Islam uber alles, because infidels deserve only death in their worldview? Right, great idea.

And Israel would never advance its clearly stated goal of annihilating Gaza, the Great Amalek, and other countries (Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, etc etc) which fail to accept its vision of Zionism because anti-Zionist deserve only death in their worldview? Right, great idea

More fabricated nonsense, with no basis in reality. Israel has zero expansionist ambitions, beyond those well justified as needful to provide border buffers from entities which attacked first. It has been that way since 1948. Attack Israel, lose territory. Stay put and behave yourself, and Israel leaves you alone. Iran, on the other hand, funds and encourages Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis and others, as proxies for terror they pretend to deny stimulating, letting their Muslim "brethren" take the heat for them. Those days are finally over.

Stay put and Israel leaves you alone? That should be the way it is for other countries. As soon as Palestine is a country they will need to follow the same rules.

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Anonymous wrote:The US is applying a lot of pressure on Iran right now. They transferred more than 30 USAF tanker planes to the region last night. The Nimitz air craft carrier group is on its way. Trump has told everyone in Tehran to evacuate. And he has just left the G7 a day early and is convening the National Security Council in the Situation Room tonight. I'd say Iran has about 12 hours to decide to abandon its nuclear program. And if they don't, I suspect there might be a couple of B-2s in the air soon delivering a few $50 million 10,000 pound Massive Ordnance Penetrator bombs to destroy Iran's underground nuclear facilities at Fordow. The ball is in Iran's court now.

Foolish. Absolutely foolish.

Why do we keep falling for neocon rhetoric over and over? They are always disastrously wrong.

“we” arent falling for it. Republicans are.

For sure some Democrats are. Look how silent they are.

No so much, no. Let’s take Tim Kaine, for example.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/16/world/middleeast/kaine-trump-war-powers.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Pk8.ypSP.uWbCNafAwHzC&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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Anonymous wrote:The US is applying a lot of pressure on Iran right now. They transferred more than 30 USAF tanker planes to the region last night. The Nimitz air craft carrier group is on its way. Trump has told everyone in Tehran to evacuate. And he has just left the G7 a day early and is convening the National Security Council in the Situation Room tonight. I'd say Iran has about 12 hours to decide to abandon its nuclear program. And if they don't, I suspect there might be a couple of B-2s in the air soon delivering a few $50 million 10,000 pound Massive Ordnance Penetrator bombs to destroy Iran's underground nuclear facilities at Fordow. The ball is in Iran's court now.

Foolish. Absolutely foolish.

Why do we keep falling for neocon rhetoric over and over? They are always disastrously wrong.

“we” arent falling for it. Republicans are.

For sure some Democrats are. Look how silent they are.

^^^ Gift link, BTW. No excuses.

No so much, no. Let’s take Tim Kaine, for example.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/16/world/middleeast/kaine-trump-war-powers.html?unlocked_article_code=1.Pk8.ypSP.uWbCNafAwHzC&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

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Anonymous wrote:So much for no wars and the US staying out of foreign conflicts. Yet another lie.

Trump lies all the time. What else is new.

How do you lie about something that will happen in the future? Plainly, you don't.

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Hoo boy. Some pundits are going to be furious tomorrow.

The good news here is that Congress may actually remember it has powers!

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Anonymous wrote:The US is applying a lot of pressure on Iran right now. They transferred more than 30 USAF tanker planes to the region last night. The Nimitz air craft carrier group is on its way. Trump has told everyone in Tehran to evacuate. And he has just left the G7 a day early and is convening the National Security Council in the Situation Room tonight. I'd say Iran has about 12 hours to decide to abandon its nuclear program. And if they don't, I suspect there might be a couple of B-2s in the air soon delivering a few $50 million 10,000 pound Massive Ordnance Penetrator bombs to destroy Iran's underground nuclear facilities at Fordow. The ball is in Iran's court now.

Foolish. Absolutely foolish.

Why do we keep falling for neocon rhetoric over and over? They are always disastrously wrong.

“we” arent falling for it. Republicans are.

For sure some Democrats are. Look how silent they are.

What's done is done. This war won't end until Iran's nuclear and missile programs are finished. There is zero chance that Saudi Arabia and Israel can live with a nuclear threat from Iran at this point. I really hope Iran's regime concedes the loss sooner rather than later. The US is moving all sorts of assets to the area. If Iran doesn't give up its nuclear and missile programs, I suspect the US and Israel will obliterate Iran's military forces from the air until there is regime change, whether by popular uprising or coup. But that leads to chaos in a giant country with 90 million people.

What they are doing is leaving us open to attack from China and Russia. We will be openly vulnerable, all to defend Israel. It is insanity.

How?

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It’s noteworthy that she is the front runner for 2028.

Israel knew they lost the Dems forever so they had to act now or never

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Anonymous wrote:I just wonder when the inevitable terror attack false flag will happen. Fourth of July weekend?

So you've already convinced yourself any attack is a false flag?

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Anonymous wrote:The US is applying a lot of pressure on Iran right now. They transferred more than 30 USAF tanker planes to the region last night. The Nimitz air craft carrier group is on its way. Trump has told everyone in Tehran to evacuate. And he has just left the G7 a day early and is convening the National Security Council in the Situation Room tonight. I'd say Iran has about 12 hours to decide to abandon its nuclear program. And if they don't, I suspect there might be a couple of B-2s in the air soon delivering a few $50 million 10,000 pound Massive Ordnance Penetrator bombs to destroy Iran's underground nuclear facilities at Fordow. The ball is in Iran's court now.

Actually they are 35,000 pound bombs.

Largest non-nuclear explosives around. Only a few planes can carry them. Iran will definitely know who dropped them.

They are kind of cool - as long as you watch it on YouTube from a few thousand miles away.

35,000 pound bombs is something that gives you joy to watch?

Do you know how inhumane your lot sounds to normal human beings?

Well, they are not that exciting. Not like mushroom clouds and shockwaves from 1960s Godzilla movie.

They penetrate into bunkers- some say 200 feet, some say 400 feet.
Dunno, never had one dropped on me.

But they are a marvel of tactical destruction for anyone trying to avoid a bomb.

You just really, really don’t want to be around one - above ground or below.

Rumors are they suck all air out for a good distance and your lungs will come out your mouth if you are near impact. Tongue gets sucked right out within half a mile. Intense stuff.

And what if the same thing happens to Israel? This weekend showed the Iron Dome is faulty and cannot handle a barrage of hypersonic missiles.

Iron Dome was never meant to be able to intercept a barrage of hypersonic missiles. That's not a fault. That's just reality.

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Anonymous wrote:I just wonder when the inevitable terror attack false flag will happen. Fourth of July weekend?

So you've already convinced yourself any attack is a false flag?

Five dancing Israelis (Mossad agents) on a Nj rooftop on 9/11 were arrested by the NyPd for “documenting/filming the event” . How do you film something you don’t know about?

Israel has a history of false flags

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Anonymous wrote:The US is applying a lot of pressure on Iran right now. They transferred more than 30 USAF tanker planes to the region last night. The Nimitz air craft carrier group is on its way. Trump has told everyone in Tehran to evacuate. And he has just left the G7 a day early and is convening the National Security Council in the Situation Room tonight. I'd say Iran has about 12 hours to decide to abandon its nuclear program. And if they don't, I suspect there might be a couple of B-2s in the air soon delivering a few $50 million 10,000 pound Massive Ordnance Penetrator bombs to destroy Iran's underground nuclear facilities at Fordow. The ball is in Iran's court now.

Actually they are 35,000 pound bombs.

Largest non-nuclear explosives around. Only a few planes can carry them. Iran will definitely know who dropped them.

They are kind of cool - as long as you watch it on YouTube from a few thousand miles away.

35,000 pound bombs is something that gives you joy to watch?

Do you know how inhumane your lot sounds to normal human beings?

Well, they are not that exciting. Not like mushroom clouds and shockwaves from 1960s Godzilla movie.

They penetrate into bunkers- some say 200 feet, some say 400 feet.
Dunno, never had one dropped on me.

But they are a marvel of tactical destruction for anyone trying to avoid a bomb.

You just really, really don’t want to be around one - above ground or below.

Rumors are they suck all air out for a good distance and your lungs will come out your mouth if you are near impact. Tongue gets sucked right out within half a mile. Intense stuff.

And what if the same thing happens to Israel? This weekend showed the Iron Dome is faulty and cannot handle a barrage of hypersonic missiles.

Iron Dome was never meant to be able to intercept a barrage of hypersonic missiles. That's not a fault. That's just reality.

It’s also a reality that the innocent Israeli public is now held hostage just like Gaza by their own government. They are now lambs to the slaughter of their autocratic overlord Bibi.
No rest for the wicked

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US is applying a lot of pressure on Iran right now. They transferred more than 30 USAF tanker planes to the region last night. The Nimitz air craft carrier group is on its way. Trump has told everyone in Tehran to evacuate. And he has just left the G7 a day early and is convening the National Security Council in the Situation Room tonight. I'd say Iran has about 12 hours to decide to abandon its nuclear program. And if they don't, I suspect there might be a couple of B-2s in the air soon delivering a few $50 million 10,000 pound Massive Ordnance Penetrator bombs to destroy Iran's underground nuclear facilities at Fordow. The ball is in Iran's court now.

Actually they are 35,000 pound bombs.

Largest non-nuclear explosives around. Only a few planes can carry them. Iran will definitely know who dropped them.

They are kind of cool - as long as you watch it on YouTube from a few thousand miles away.

35,000 pound bombs is something that gives you joy to watch?

Do you know how inhumane your lot sounds to normal human beings?

Well, they are not that exciting. Not like mushroom clouds and shockwaves from 1960s Godzilla movie.

They penetrate into bunkers- some say 200 feet, some say 400 feet.
Dunno, never had one dropped on me.

But they are a marvel of tactical destruction for anyone trying to avoid a bomb.

You just really, really don’t want to be around one - above ground or below.

Rumors are they suck all air out for a good distance and your lungs will come out your mouth if you are near impact. Tongue gets sucked right out within half a mile. Intense stuff.

You sound like a Nazi excited about gas chambers.

We used them in Afghanistan several times.
It’s just physics and combustion of that intensity consumes all available oxygen and creates pressures your body cannot handle if exposed to the ordinance.

Cave or bunker- oxygen is finite in those spaces and flows to the weapon and the explosion will consume all available oxygen at a velocity unsurvivable within certain distances.

Best to avoid any encounter with them in real world.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The US is applying a lot of pressure on Iran right now. They transferred more than 30 USAF tanker planes to the region last night. The Nimitz air craft carrier group is on its way. Trump has told everyone in Tehran to evacuate. And he has just left the G7 a day early and is convening the National Security Council in the Situation Room tonight. I'd say Iran has about 12 hours to decide to abandon its nuclear program. And if they don't, I suspect there might be a couple of B-2s in the air soon delivering a few $50 million 10,000 pound Massive Ordnance Penetrator bombs to destroy Iran's underground nuclear facilities at Fordow. The ball is in Iran's court now.

Actually they are 35,000 pound bombs.

Largest non-nuclear explosives around. Only a few planes can carry them. Iran will definitely know who dropped them.

They are kind of cool - as long as you watch it on YouTube from a few thousand miles away.

35,000 pound bombs is something that gives you joy to watch?

Do you know how inhumane your lot sounds to normal human beings?

Well, they are not that exciting. Not like mushroom clouds and shockwaves from 1960s Godzilla movie.

They penetrate into bunkers- some say 200 feet, some say 400 feet.
Dunno, never had one dropped on me.

But they are a marvel of tactical destruction for anyone trying to avoid a bomb.

You just really, really don’t want to be around one - above ground or below.

Rumors are they suck all air out for a good distance and your lungs will come out your mouth if you are near impact. Tongue gets sucked right out within half a mile. Intense stuff.

And what if the same thing happens to Israel? This weekend showed the Iron Dome is faulty and cannot handle a barrage of hypersonic missiles.

Iron Dome was never meant to be able to intercept a barrage of hypersonic missiles. That's not a fault. That's just reality.

Looks like it’s a bad return on our investment. How does it secure Israel’s safety? It didn’t do a thing on 10/7 and it’s not doing much now.

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Anonymous wrote:The US is applying a lot of pressure on Iran right now. They transferred more than 30 USAF tanker planes to the region last night. The Nimitz air craft carrier group is on its way. Trump has told everyone in Tehran to evacuate. And he has just left the G7 a day early and is convening the National Security Council in the Situation Room tonight. I'd say Iran has about 12 hours to decide to abandon its nuclear program. And if they don't, I suspect there might be a couple of B-2s in the air soon delivering a few $50 million 10,000 pound Massive Ordnance Penetrator bombs to destroy Iran's underground nuclear facilities at Fordow. The ball is in Iran's court now.

Actually they are 35,000 pound bombs.

Largest non-nuclear explosives around. Only a few planes can carry them. Iran will definitely know who dropped them.

They are kind of cool - as long as you watch it on YouTube from a few thousand miles away.

35,000 pound bombs is something that gives you joy to watch?

Do you know how inhumane your lot sounds to normal human beings?

Well, they are not that exciting. Not like mushroom clouds and shockwaves from 1960s Godzilla movie.

They penetrate into bunkers- some say 200 feet, some say 400 feet.
Dunno, never had one dropped on me.

But they are a marvel of tactical destruction for anyone trying to avoid a bomb.

You just really, really don’t want to be around one - above ground or below.

Rumors are they suck all air out for a good distance and your lungs will come out your mouth if you are near impact. Tongue gets sucked right out within half a mile. Intense stuff.

You sound like a Nazi excited about gas chambers.

We used them in Afghanistan several times.
It’s just physics and combustion of that intensity consumes all available oxygen and creates pressures your body cannot handle if exposed to the ordinance.

Cave or bunker- oxygen is finite in those spaces and flows to the weapon and the explosion will consume all available oxygen at a velocity unsurvivable within certain distances.

Best to avoid any encounter with them in real world.

And using this will destroy the Iranian will to build a nuclear bomb?

You surely got it figured out