Taylor Swift album Tortured Poets Department leaked early?

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Anonymous wrote:The entire album is about Matty. I know I am in the minority, but I loved them together. They are so similar - tortured poets, musicians who enjoy their booze and are a little chaotic at times but brilliant too. And it’s well known she loves a Brit.

It’s such a tragic album really. It’s clear they both were hot for each other for a long time. They have the same producer and close friend, Jack Antonoff, who helped them stay in touch or reconnect. It is likely she left Joe who she was bored with to be with Matty. Then the fans went feral about Matty being “problematic” and also her tour had just started, so it was probably too much strain on him and the relationship. But yah, those two were pining for each other for over a decade (so many clues!) and would have made the cutest babies…unlike the current jock.

The lyric “I would have died for your sins, instead I just died inside…” She was ready to stick by him regardless of public opinion and her dad’s advice (though was she really going to throw so much away?), but he was probably spooked and wanted out.

All of this. They were so great together.

Eww. He’s a heroin user and perpetually looks like he needs bath.

He used heroin a while ago and has been clean for years. He is the frontman of a band, of course he has used drugs.
I find him attractive, and clearly so did she.

How is she a role model for girls? So much alcohol and drug glamorization

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Anonymous wrote:I listened to the whole album through and read the lyrics and like wow if she is still working through these feelings now, she is going to have a hell of a ride if she ever gets married or has kids. Matty Healy was a fake and she fell for him so hard and fast he was obviously overwhelmed and didn't want to actually play house with her. The whole album is an embarrassment. After all these guys and being a "mastermind" she literally is telling the whole world to fk off so she can chase this loser who ghosted her. And now she's giving him the satisfaction of a whole album when they were just a literal fortnight. I am kind of shocked.

That’s the thing. It wasn’t a fortnight, that’s how long they were officially together. But their love affair had been in the making for over a decade.
Matty is in many ways similar to her and wild (“my wild boy and this wild joy”). Travis is a brawny clown who plays a sport no one outside of middle America cares about. At least someone like Tom Brady is good looking and played the smart position in the game.
Personally, I would take a stormy romance with Matty over Travis but marry neither of them.

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Anonymous wrote:The Alchemy is about the evening Taylor Swift played at the 1975's London show in 2023.

No

I think yes. Then last minute she prob changed a couple of the lyrics and added references to touchdowns so it isn’t totally mortifying to Kelce how none of the 31 songs on the album are actually about him.

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Anonymous wrote:Sayin that the album is all about Matt Healy is such a fantastically bad take.
I love it!
Tell me more!

It is so obvious that if you can’t listen to the songs or read the lyrics and figure that out, I don’t know how you passed high school English.
You can google the Vulture article about it to help you understand.

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Anonymous wrote:The entire album is about Matty. I know I am in the minority, but I loved them together. They are so similar - tortured poets, musicians who enjoy their booze and are a little chaotic at times but brilliant too. And it’s well known she loves a Brit.

It’s such a tragic album really. It’s clear they both were hot for each other for a long time. They have the same producer and close friend, Jack Antonoff, who helped them stay in touch or reconnect. It is likely she left Joe who she was bored with to be with Matty. Then the fans went feral about Matty being “problematic” and also her tour had just started, so it was probably too much strain on him and the relationship. But yah, those two were pining for each other for over a decade (so many clues!) and would have made the cutest babies…unlike the current jock.

The lyric “I would have died for your sins, instead I just died inside…” She was ready to stick by him regardless of public opinion and her dad’s advice (though was she really going to throw so much away?), but he was probably spooked and wanted out.

All of this. They were so great together.

Eww. He’s a heroin user and perpetually looks like he needs bath.

Must say, it'd be wild if Taylor took a hard turn, and ended up running off with MH. It might be the most Taylor-Swift-lyric thing she ever did.

😂😂😂 I am rooting for this now, you’ve put an image in my head and it’s funny and fitting. She will run off in a getaway Aston Martin!

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Anonymous wrote: Sayin that the album is all about Matt Healy is such a fantastically bad take.
I love it!
Tell me more!

Not only this album but many songs from prior albums are about him too. At the Eras Tour, she mouthed to him: “This song is about you. You know who you are. I love you.” at the start of “Cardigan.” I was at that concert!
He did the same at his concert too.

Here: https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTLaSpAx4/

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Cardigan:
But I knew you’d linger like a tattoo kiss
I knew you’d haunt all of my what if’s
The smell of smoke would hang around…

Matty has tattoos and smokes.

Cruel Summer:
Bad, bad boy shiny toy with a price
He looks up grinning like a devil
And I snuck in through the garden gate just to seal my fate
I don’t wanna keep secrets
And it’s new, the feeling (years after being with her bf)

Ain’t no way Joe fits that song either.

Tay Tay been pining after and singing about the tattooed golden retriever for years it would appear. Matty Healy, possibly the greatest secret muse in the history of modern day music! She did a number on her fans, didn’t she?

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Anonymous wrote:I think so weird how people are like I can’t relate to what she’s singing about, why is she still singing about Break ups and falling in love? Those times are so fleeting in our lives that sometimes a good song like that reminds you what it’s like to be “Down Bad” and bring back those feelings of nostalgia. If not that we relate to it now, but it brings up old feelings and that’s not necessarily a bad thing!

Those times are clearly not fleeting in Taylor’s life. They have been a constant since she was a teen.

If people acted normal about Taylor, none of this would be a topic. It’s the crazy obsession that is bizarre. It’s the death threats and threats of violence sent to article writer who critique her. It’s the hyperventilating and crying over seeing a glimpse of her. It’s the insane amounts of money people pay and debt they will go into just to see a show. It isn’t healthy. It’s adults obsessed with a singer to the point that they lose all rational thought.

There are many worst things To be addicted to. I will take a Taylor Swift addicted America over alternatives.

I could not disagree more. You could be addicted to exercise (ie train for the Iron Man). Or in the case of Taylor’s target audience, you could be addicted to doing your homework and achieving. You could be addicted to cleaning or cooking or reading or knitting or playing the piano or swimming or basketball. I can think of a million better addictions than obsessing over Taylor Swift.

Being fascinated with such a mediocre talent is precisely what is ruining America.

Yet here you are, as captivated as anyone else. Joke’s on you.

Not really, the more people talk about how much they don’t like her, the less financing she’ll get for that next album. Eventually she will fade away.

Yesterday her record hit 500 million streams in one day, the fastest for any artist in history. This doesn’t even account for the sales of physical media. She’s currently still on her tour which will ultimately end up being the highest grossing of all time. She is not going anywhere, you’re just a bitter hag.

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Anonymous wrote:I think so weird how people are like I can’t relate to what she’s singing about, why is she still singing about Break ups and falling in love? Those times are so fleeting in our lives that sometimes a good song like that reminds you what it’s like to be “Down Bad” and bring back those feelings of nostalgia. If not that we relate to it now, but it brings up old feelings and that’s not necessarily a bad thing!

Those times are clearly not fleeting in Taylor’s life. They have been a constant since she was a teen.

If people acted normal about Taylor, none of this would be a topic. It’s the crazy obsession that is bizarre. It’s the death threats and threats of violence sent to article writer who critique her. It’s the hyperventilating and crying over seeing a glimpse of her. It’s the insane amounts of money people pay and debt they will go into just to see a show. It isn’t healthy. It’s adults obsessed with a singer to the point that they lose all rational thought.

There are many worst things To be addicted to. I will take a Taylor Swift addicted America over alternatives.

I could not disagree more. You could be addicted to exercise (ie train for the Iron Man). Or in the case of Taylor’s target audience, you could be addicted to doing your homework and achieving. You could be addicted to cleaning or cooking or reading or knitting or playing the piano or swimming or basketball. I can think of a million better addictions than obsessing over Taylor Swift.

Being fascinated with such a mediocre talent is precisely what is ruining America.

Yet here you are, as captivated as anyone else. Joke’s on you.

Not really, the more people talk about how much they don’t like her, the less financing she’ll get for that next album. Eventually she will fade away.

Yesterday her record hit 500 million streams in one day, the fastest for any artist in history. This doesn’t even account for the sales of physical media. She’s currently still on her tour which will ultimately end up being the highest grossing of all time. She is not going anywhere, you’re just a bitter hag.

Because of the internet, any musician today has a bigger world market than the ones from before. A tween in China or Russia can stream Taylor, but their parents/grandparents couldn’t buy a Beatles record or a Michael Jackson single. Those things weren’t for sale, so you can’t really compare her sales to anyone, but other musicians today.

Also, because of the internet, gone are the days of managers and agents scanning clubs and local venues for talent. There’s no point, their songs will end up free on YouTube and their managers won’t make money. They are not looking for the best singers anymore. Instead, they’re make money on the very few who have connections and more importantly FINANCING so that the record label can get paid and they can all keep their houses and cars, etc.

Taylor Swift is one of those lucky few, financed and marketed to the extreme, but she lacks real talent. Sure, a talented musician can now post on YouTube, too, but who is going to see them without the marketing? You might as well sing in the streets.

Worse than the fact that the managers and record labels won’t look for talented musicians anymore, they actively prevent them from reaching wider audiences, because actual talent makes the pre-packaged, well financed musicians they’ve backed (ie Taylor) look like the sh-t that they are in comparison.

I’m not old, but you are right, I am am bitter, bitter that my grandparents had Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry, while I’m repeatedly forced to listen to the cat in Heat voice of Taylor every time I leave the house.

But all things are cyclical and eventually a true talent will somehow break through.

Taylor will go away. It’s just a matter of time.

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Anonymous wrote:I think so weird how people are like I can’t relate to what she’s singing about, why is she still singing about Break ups and falling in love? Those times are so fleeting in our lives that sometimes a good song like that reminds you what it’s like to be “Down Bad” and bring back those feelings of nostalgia. If not that we relate to it now, but it brings up old feelings and that’s not necessarily a bad thing!

Those times are clearly not fleeting in Taylor’s life. They have been a constant since she was a teen.

If people acted normal about Taylor, none of this would be a topic. It’s the crazy obsession that is bizarre. It’s the death threats and threats of violence sent to article writer who critique her. It’s the hyperventilating and crying over seeing a glimpse of her. It’s the insane amounts of money people pay and debt they will go into just to see a show. It isn’t healthy. It’s adults obsessed with a singer to the point that they lose all rational thought.

There are many worst things To be addicted to. I will take a Taylor Swift addicted America over alternatives.

I could not disagree more. You could be addicted to exercise (ie train for the Iron Man). Or in the case of Taylor’s target audience, you could be addicted to doing your homework and achieving. You could be addicted to cleaning or cooking or reading or knitting or playing the piano or swimming or basketball. I can think of a million better addictions than obsessing over Taylor Swift.

Being fascinated with such a mediocre talent is precisely what is ruining America.

Yet here you are, as captivated as anyone else. Joke’s on you.

Not really, the more people talk about how much they don’t like her, the less financing she’ll get for that next album. Eventually she will fade away.

Yesterday her record hit 500 million streams in one day, the fastest for any artist in history. This doesn’t even account for the sales of physical media. She’s currently still on her tour which will ultimately end up being the highest grossing of all time. She is not going anywhere, you’re just a bitter hag.

Because of the internet, any musician today has a bigger world market than the ones from before. A tween in China or Russia can stream Taylor, but their parents/grandparents couldn’t buy a Beatles record or a Michael Jackson single. Those things weren’t for sale, so you can’t really compare her sales to anyone, but other musicians today.

Also, because of the internet, gone are the days of managers and agents scanning clubs and local venues for talent. There’s no point, their songs will end up free on YouTube and their managers won’t make money. They are not looking for the best singers anymore. Instead, they’re make money on the very few who have connections and more importantly FINANCING so that the record label can get paid and they can all keep their houses and cars, etc.

Taylor Swift is one of those lucky few, financed and marketed to the extreme, but she lacks real talent. Sure, a talented musician can now post on YouTube, too, but who is going to see them without the marketing? You might as well sing in the streets.

Worse than the fact that the managers and record labels won’t look for talented musicians anymore, they actively prevent them from reaching wider audiences, because actual talent makes the pre-packaged, well financed musicians they’ve backed (ie Taylor) look like the sh-t that they are in comparison.

I’m not old, but you are right, I am am bitter, bitter that my grandparents had Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry, while I’m repeatedly forced to listen to the cat in Heat voice of Taylor every time I leave the house.

But all things are cyclical and eventually a true talent will somehow break through.

Taylor will go away. It’s just a matter of time.

NP. There’s this thing now where you can just stream whatever you want to listen to, and not stream whatever you don’t want to listen to. You can listen to Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry all day and night if you want to.

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Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.

It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him

I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.

Eh, I just read an article that Joe made several million bucks off of Taylor‘s albums that he co-wrote some of the songs during lockdown.

It’s hard to feel too sorry for him. He knew what he was getting into dating the absolute number one pop star on earth. They got together in 2017. She was an absolute global phenomenon at that point. She had a phase where she backed off the public for a while but come on. They dated during her reputation tour, which was huge.

I’m sure he’s not complaining about the residuals he will get the rest of his life.

I think the issue is he is a Trump supporter and her fans were disappointed she would date him especially after her progressive Lover album.

By calling them vipers, she definitely making a bold claim about her man and her politics. The rumor before the Lover album was Taylor was Republican because she didn’t support Hillary in 2016 and stayed mum the entire election season.

She should’ve never done the virtue signaling and stayed apolitical. Calling her fans vipers because they didn’t like her MAGA boyfriend is hilarious . Taylor is unintentionally funny to me

So are all just gonna ignore this crazy post?
No one wanna comment in this?

Ok I don’t find it crazy. I think Daddy I love him is about her fans.
She calls her fans vipers and something about sanctimony and empaths.
Maybe she is MAGA, she clearly was madly in love with a racist.

Matty Healy is very liberal and not at all a racist. He was on some talk show while high and laughed nervously at something stupid and insensitive the radio show host said. That doesn’t make him a racist.
Stop reading gossip sites.
Daddy I Live Him is about people like you actually.

According to the gossip site, NBC, there were many more comments than just the Ice Spice thing.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/matty-healy-1975-controversy-comments-ice-spice-rcna86858

I don’t care if Taylor calls me a Viper, she shouldn’t either as we still buy the downloads for my kids, so I’m still contributing to her overall billionaire status.

Many critics also believe Daddy I love him is about fans, but if you can’t handle that, or think it doesn’t apply to YOU, I get it.

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Anonymous wrote:I think so weird how people are like I can’t relate to what she’s singing about, why is she still singing about Break ups and falling in love? Those times are so fleeting in our lives that sometimes a good song like that reminds you what it’s like to be “Down Bad” and bring back those feelings of nostalgia. If not that we relate to it now, but it brings up old feelings and that’s not necessarily a bad thing!

Those times are clearly not fleeting in Taylor’s life. They have been a constant since she was a teen.

If people acted normal about Taylor, none of this would be a topic. It’s the crazy obsession that is bizarre. It’s the death threats and threats of violence sent to article writer who critique her. It’s the hyperventilating and crying over seeing a glimpse of her. It’s the insane amounts of money people pay and debt they will go into just to see a show. It isn’t healthy. It’s adults obsessed with a singer to the point that they lose all rational thought.

There are many worst things To be addicted to. I will take a Taylor Swift addicted America over alternatives.

I could not disagree more. You could be addicted to exercise (ie train for the Iron Man). Or in the case of Taylor’s target audience, you could be addicted to doing your homework and achieving. You could be addicted to cleaning or cooking or reading or knitting or playing the piano or swimming or basketball. I can think of a million better addictions than obsessing over Taylor Swift.

Being fascinated with such a mediocre talent is precisely what is ruining America.

Yet here you are, as captivated as anyone else. Joke’s on you.

Not really, the more people talk about how much they don’t like her, the less financing she’ll get for that next album. Eventually she will fade away.

Yesterday her record hit 500 million streams in one day, the fastest for any artist in history. This doesn’t even account for the sales of physical media. She’s currently still on her tour which will ultimately end up being the highest grossing of all time. She is not going anywhere, you’re just a bitter hag.

Because of the internet, any musician today has a bigger world market than the ones from before. A tween in China or Russia can stream Taylor, but their parents/grandparents couldn’t buy a Beatles record or a Michael Jackson single. Those things weren’t for sale, so you can’t really compare her sales to anyone, but other musicians today.

Also, because of the internet, gone are the days of managers and agents scanning clubs and local venues for talent. There’s no point, their songs will end up free on YouTube and their managers won’t make money. They are not looking for the best singers anymore. Instead, they’re make money on the very few who have connections and more importantly FINANCING so that the record label can get paid and they can all keep their houses and cars, etc.

Taylor Swift is one of those lucky few, financed and marketed to the extreme, but she lacks real talent. Sure, a talented musician can now post on YouTube, too, but who is going to see them without the marketing? You might as well sing in the streets.

Worse than the fact that the managers and record labels won’t look for talented musicians anymore, they actively prevent them from reaching wider audiences, because actual talent makes the pre-packaged, well financed musicians they’ve backed (ie Taylor) look like the sh-t that they are in comparison.

I’m not old, but you are right, I am am bitter, bitter that my grandparents had Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry, while I’m repeatedly forced to listen to the cat in Heat voice of Taylor every time I leave the house.

But all things are cyclical and eventually a true talent will somehow break through.

Taylor will go away. It’s just a matter of time.

Five paragraphs?? Anyway stay mad

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Cardigan:
But I knew you’d linger like a tattoo kiss
I knew you’d haunt all of my what if’s
The smell of smoke would hang around…

Matty has tattoos and smokes.

Cruel Summer:
Bad, bad boy shiny toy with a price
He looks up grinning like a devil
And I snuck in through the garden gate just to seal my fate
I don’t wanna keep secrets
And it’s new, the feeling (years after being with her bf)

Ain’t no way Joe fits that song either.

Tay Tay been pining after and singing about the tattooed golden retriever for years it would appear. Matty Healy, possibly the greatest secret muse in the history of modern day music! She did a number on her fans, didn’t she?

He’s not cruel summer but he is cardigan. The problem for her is he is not into her, probably not into anyone (lyrics from I knew you were trouble come to mind) so this is definitely her type. I think her little video with Travis is her trying to do damage control. And her post saying chapter is trimly closed. And I wonder if she’s copiously writing music for Travis and playing it for him to placate him. But interesting now she’s got the ick on her! This album is her Viva Las Vegas moment.

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What’s worse is Ina few weeks she’s going to be standing in stage with her sweet as sugar smile and point to all her fans and do the heart signs and her little champagne problems spiel and we are all going to know she’s actually ungrateful and angry at her fans because she was so mad this unwashed druggy wouldn’t call her back. This is a PR disaster for her. Ironic her publicist just had a huge glowing write up over the weekend from WSJ. Hubris is dangerous, maybe she will seek solace in forgiveness from a higher power because it’s all gone to her head and Karma has a way as she knows all too well.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s worse is Ina few weeks she’s going to be standing in stage with her sweet as sugar smile and point to all her fans and do the heart signs and her little champagne problems spiel and we are all going to know she’s actually ungrateful and angry at her fans because she was so mad this unwashed druggy wouldn’t call her back. This is a PR disaster for her. Ironic her publicist just had a huge glowing write up over the weekend from WSJ. Hubris is dangerous, maybe she will seek solace in forgiveness from a higher power because it’s all gone to her head and Karma has a way as she knows all too well.

Some of you are really weirdos