Taylor Swift album Tortured Poets Department leaked early?

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I LOVE this album! Much better on the 4th listen than the first one.

I am an incurable romantic, love witty and clever use of words, love dark & twisted bad boys…terrible taste in men that I thankfully changed for my DH but had my fair share of Mattys who haunted me stunningly in my youth. So this album is totally relatable to this 50-year old!

My favorite tracks:
Guilty as Sin
The Tortured Poets Department
But Daddy I Love Him
Fortnight
Down Bad
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Anonymous wrote:This album is….not good, right? “All my friends smell like weed and little babies”

So many weird lines


I think the album is good, but out of 31 songs there are going to be better than others. I thought that was a weird line also.


BTW it's "All my friends smell like weed OR little babies"

Do still not understand this line?


Yes. I get the line, still think it sounds weird. It’s about millennial life. There.

Millennial life is smelling like dogs or babies.

Maybe the tattooed golden retriever line was to make sure that faction of millennials felt seen.


No. She writes from her personal experience, not to please “factions.” Matty Healy is the tattooed golden retriever. He has those dreamy puppy eyes and many tats.
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Anonymous wrote:I really hope she changes up the tour setlist to include a TTPD Era. I will see her in October and want to see these live, not just as surprise songs.


Ditto.
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Anonymous wrote:This is so cringe.



Yes it’s cringe because they synced a different song to it… it doesn’t go together at all. Dumb.
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Sayin that the album is all about Matt Healy is such a fantastically bad take.
I love it!
Tell me more!
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Anonymous wrote:It’s also obvious the drinking increased after that breakup because she’s depressed with Travis and wants to go back/be with him but doesn’t want to affect her career negatively or get cancelled by Gen Z


This is my take too. She is still in love with Matty and likely he is with her, but she won’t risk her entire career that she has worked so hard for. She even wrote that fictional, make-believe ending of their story in “Daddy, But I Love Him”, where she marries him and sticks it to all the naysayers (the fans). But she is too much of a businesswoman and a pragmatist to ever do it in reality. Instead, she will keep getting drunk and parading around with Travis, pretending she is happy.
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Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.


It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him


I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.


Maybe they should've treated her better if they didn’t want to get called out for their bad behavior.


She’s a 34 year old woman. At some point, if you can’t make a relationship work, it says as much about you and your issues as it does about the men.


She might not want to make it work and settle. She doesn’t need to!
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Anonymous wrote:Can we go back to Joe being a trump supporter? Can I have whatever that poster is smoking


Hahaaa!! Laughing out loud here.
But also, that particular song and much of the album is about Matt Healy and not Joe. Neither of whom cares about Trump even one bit.
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Anonymous wrote:I enjoy taylor’s music. poets has taken me a few listens to get into but i’m there now. my favorites are peter, the black dog, loml, the manuscript, so long london and chloe or sam or sophia or marcus (such a random title).

this is a solid album. she is an extremely talented artist.
it is sad that her long term relationship didn’t work out and i hope she is able to find the kind if love she’s been looking for.


Imo, these might have been potential baby names she and Matty discussed?
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Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.


It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him


I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.


Eh, I just read an article that Joe made several million bucks off of Taylor‘s albums that he co-wrote some of the songs during lockdown.

It’s hard to feel too sorry for him. He knew what he was getting into dating the absolute number one pop star on earth. They got together in 2017. She was an absolute global phenomenon at that point. She had a phase where she backed off the public for a while but come on. They dated during her reputation tour, which was huge.

I’m sure he’s not complaining about the residuals he will get the rest of his life.


I think the issue is he is a Trump supporter and her fans were disappointed she would date him especially after her progressive Lover album.

By calling them vipers, she definitely making a bold claim about her man and her politics. The rumor before the Lover album was Taylor was Republican because she didn’t support Hillary in 2016 and stayed mum the entire election season.

She should’ve never done the virtue signaling and stayed apolitical. Calling her fans vipers because they didn’t like her MAGA boyfriend is hilarious . Taylor is unintentionally funny to me


So are all just gonna ignore this crazy post?
No one wanna comment in this?


Ok I don’t find it crazy. I think Daddy I love him is about her fans.
She calls her fans vipers and something about sanctimony and empaths.
Maybe she is MAGA, she clearly was madly in love with a racist.


Matty Healy is very liberal and not at all a racist. He was on some talk show while high and laughed nervously at something stupid and insensitive the radio show host said. That doesn’t make him a racist.
Stop reading gossip sites.
Daddy I Live Him is about people like you actually.
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Anonymous wrote:It did leak and it's interesting to say the least. She's much kinder to Joe then people were expecting. He suffers from major depression. Most of the songs were about Matt unfortunately.

She also says she's a functional alcoholic which some clocked.


It’s so shitty to out someone for that . Of course it’s always the man with the issues and never her. She will be in serious trouble if that man commits suicide because of the crazy Swifties going after him


I agree with this. trashing ex boyfriends was cute when she was college aged and established older actors like Jake gylenhaal and John Mayer were taking gross advantage of a 20 year old, but now it’s 15 years later and she’s still doing the same shtick of very clearly airing dirty laundry and throwing her ex boyfriends - some of whom were serious relationships - under the bus. Doing this every six months in her mid thirties strikes me as juvenile and emotionally stunted. It’s like she’s addicted to the break ups/relationships for the content and I think it’s super weird.


Eh, I just read an article that Joe made several million bucks off of Taylor‘s albums that he co-wrote some of the songs during lockdown.

It’s hard to feel too sorry for him. He knew what he was getting into dating the absolute number one pop star on earth. They got together in 2017. She was an absolute global phenomenon at that point. She had a phase where she backed off the public for a while but come on. They dated during her reputation tour, which was huge.

I’m sure he’s not complaining about the residuals he will get the rest of his life.


I think the issue is he is a Trump supporter and her fans were disappointed she would date him especially after her progressive Lover album.

By calling them vipers, she definitely making a bold claim about her man and her politics. The rumor before the Lover album was Taylor was Republican because she didn’t support Hillary in 2016 and stayed mum the entire election season.

She should’ve never done the virtue signaling and stayed apolitical. Calling her fans vipers because they didn’t like her MAGA boyfriend is hilarious . Taylor is unintentionally funny to me


So are all just gonna ignore this crazy post?
No one wanna comment in this?


Ok I don’t find it crazy. I think Daddy I love him is about her fans.
She calls her fans vipers and something about sanctimony and empaths.
Maybe she is MAGA, she clearly was madly in love with a racist.


Matty Healy is very liberal and not at all a racist. He was on some talk show while high and laughed nervously at something stupid and insensitive the radio show host said. That doesn’t make him a racist.
Stop reading gossip sites.
Daddy I Live Him is about people like you actually.


Matty does not agree with you because he apologized for his racist comment about her. He didn't say that a radio host said it and that he was apologizing for laughing at the "joke." He apologized for SAYING something racist.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/ice-spice-matty-healy-comments-apology-1234834120/
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She created the parasocial relationship. She did this to herself. “Wine moms” is insulting. No, I don’t drink wine.


“ I’ll tell you something about my good name / It’s mine alone to disgrace / I don’t cater to all these vipers dressed in empath’s clothing,” she sings. “God save the most judgmental creeps / Who say they want what’s best for me / Sanctimoniously performing soliloquies I’ll never see / Thinking it can change the beat of my heart when he touches me / And counteract the chemistry.”

Wow. She really can write a song though.


Indeed. This song has quickly become my favorite. It’s a sad album with great lyrics and chill music vibe, and I like it.
Anonymous
"In January, Healy mocked Ice Spice’s ethnicity with comics Nick Mullen and Friedland. He called the rapper — who is Nigerian and Dominican — an “Inuit spice girl” and a “chubby Chinese lady.” Healy also imitated Hawaiian and Chinese accents."

He has since apologized to Ice Spice.
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Anonymous wrote:The entire album is about Matty. I know I am in the minority, but I loved them together. They are so similar - tortured poets, musicians who enjoy their booze and are a little chaotic at times but brilliant too. And it’s well known she loves a Brit.

It’s such a tragic album really. It’s clear they both were hot for each other for a long time. They have the same producer and close friend, Jack Antonoff, who helped them stay in touch or reconnect. It is likely she left Joe who she was bored with to be with Matty. Then the fans went feral about Matty being “problematic” and also her tour had just started, so it was probably too much strain on him and the relationship. But yah, those two were pining for each other for over a decade (so many clues!) and would have made the cutest babies…unlike the current jock.

The lyric “I would have died for your sins, instead I just died inside…” She was ready to stick by him regardless of public opinion and her dad’s advice (though was she really going to throw so much away?), but he was probably spooked and wanted out.


All of this. They were so great together.


Eww. He’s a heroin user and perpetually looks like he needs bath.


He used heroin a while ago and has been clean for years. He is the frontman of a band, of course he has used drugs.
I find him attractive, and clearly so did she.
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Anonymous wrote:I enjoy taylor’s music. poets has taken me a few listens to get into but i’m there now. my favorites are peter, the black dog, loml, the manuscript, so long london and chloe or sam or sophia or marcus (such a random title).

this is a solid album. she is an extremely talented artist.
it is sad that her long term relationship didn’t work out and i hope she is able to find the kind if love she’s been looking for.


Imo, these might have been potential baby names she and Matty discussed?


Or men and women he was cheating on her with.
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