The Fascist Part of the US strikes again in Tennessee

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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.



So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.


Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?


I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.



They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.


No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.


I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.


Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.


There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.



This is a moot point. A complete red herring. A security guard or police officer carrying a hand gun simply cannot compete with a shooter with an AR 15 that can discharge Way more rounds, far faster and with more velocity. By the time the guard can get there many people will already be dead. The assault weapons need to be banned period. Reagan, the republican worshipped by the GOP, is the reason the ban actually passed in 1994.

Any discussion about security guards or good guys with a gun are just NRA talking points to divert attention from the fact that unfetter d access to large magazines and assault weapons are the real problem.




Ar 15s shoot just as fast as a pistol. You can talk about the velocity, but that won't come into play at the distances these engagements occur. Mass hooters aren't firing from 300metres.


https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna848346


Nothing in there on fire rate.

Each one fires as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Pistols can hold 30 rounds same as a rifle.

Pistols are better than rifles in cqb. A short barreled rifle or smg is better than a normal length rifle.

.45 wounds are worse.



Most pistol magazines are in the range of 10-17 rounds. 30 rounds are high capacity magazines, and are very uncommon for most pistol owners to have.

I grew up in a military family, we own guns, we hunt, my father was career military (21 years) and was an Army drill sergeant and military marksmanship instructor and competitive shooter and gun collector with dozens of pistols and rifles, and he carries for protection. Hundreds of servicemen owe their marksmanship badges to his instruction and dozens of the GIs he trained and sent into combat still keep in touch with him to this day. But he does not own a single semi-auto pistol or rifle, let alone a 30 round magazine, because he does not think civilians need them. That is the kind of gun culture I grew up in, not this NRA-sponsored kids-clutching-AR-15s-on-Christmas-cards idiocy of today. When we see people with AR-15s and people with high capacity magazines, it just screams "spray and pray" - it just screams "i don't know what I'm doing," it just screams "military wanna-be LARPer who probably needs psychiatric help."


It's the firearm I'm most familiar with from my time in the service. I don't think it screams spray and pray at all, and with the price of 5.56 today at roughly $.80 per round, spraying and praying $24 of ammo in a 30 round magazine is a waste of money. I doubt thats what your dad as a military marksmanship instructor was teaching.

Aimed accurate fire is far more scary than indiscriminate fire.


What service is that? AR-15s aren't used in the US military. They use M-16s. With regard to aimed accurate fire, the majority of military sniper rifles are bolt-action.


Aside from some NG or reserve units with really old equipment, the US military doesn't use M-16s any longer and hasn't for quite some time.


There are still many M-16s in use, they phased in M-4's, starting in 2010 with the Army and 2016 with Marine Corps, and will be phasing the M-16s and M-4s out with XM7's in coming years.
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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.



So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.


Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?


I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.



They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.


No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.


I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.


Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.


There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.



This is a moot point. A complete red herring. A security guard or police officer carrying a hand gun simply cannot compete with a shooter with an AR 15 that can discharge Way more rounds, far faster and with more velocity. By the time the guard can get there many people will already be dead. The assault weapons need to be banned period. Reagan, the republican worshipped by the GOP, is the reason the ban actually passed in 1994.

Any discussion about security guards or good guys with a gun are just NRA talking points to divert attention from the fact that unfetter d access to large magazines and assault weapons are the real problem.




Ar 15s shoot just as fast as a pistol. You can talk about the velocity, but that won't come into play at the distances these engagements occur. Mass hooters aren't firing from 300metres.


https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna848346


Nothing in there on fire rate.

Each one fires as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Pistols can hold 30 rounds same as a rifle.

Pistols are better than rifles in cqb. A short barreled rifle or smg is better than a normal length rifle.

.45 wounds are worse.



Most pistol magazines are in the range of 10-17 rounds. 30 rounds are high capacity magazines, and are very uncommon for most pistol owners to have.

I grew up in a military family, we own guns, we hunt, my father was career military (21 years) and was an Army drill sergeant and military marksmanship instructor and competitive shooter and gun collector with dozens of pistols and rifles, and he carries for protection. Hundreds of servicemen owe their marksmanship badges to his instruction and dozens of the GIs he trained and sent into combat still keep in touch with him to this day. But he does not own a single semi-auto pistol or rifle, let alone a 30 round magazine, because he does not think civilians need them. That is the kind of gun culture I grew up in, not this NRA-sponsored kids-clutching-AR-15s-on-Christmas-cards idiocy of today. When we see people with AR-15s and people with high capacity magazines, it just screams "spray and pray" - it just screams "i don't know what I'm doing," it just screams "military wanna-be LARPer who probably needs psychiatric help."


It's the firearm I'm most familiar with from my time in the service. I don't think it screams spray and pray at all, and with the price of 5.56 today at roughly $.80 per round, spraying and praying $24 of ammo in a 30 round magazine is a waste of money. I doubt thats what your dad as a military marksmanship instructor was teaching.

Aimed accurate fire is far more scary than indiscriminate fire.


What service is that? AR-15s aren't used in the US military. They use M-16s. With regard to aimed accurate fire, the majority of military sniper rifles are bolt-action.


Aside from some NG or reserve units with really old equipment, the US military doesn't use M-16s any longer and hasn't for quite some time.


True that. M-4 is what is used in the Army and most of the Marine Corps. Some of the Corps still uses the M-16 as does some Air Force and Navy. Even Coast Guard has mostly switched. M-4 is a smaller, shortened version of the M16A2. Soon to be replaced it the army by the XM7. So M-16s are really a relic of the past.


No civilian needs a gun with 30 round magazines, or which will support a 30 round magazine. No civilian needs a gun patterned after AR-15s, M-16s, M-4's or any other military weapon.
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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.



So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.


Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?


I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.



They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.


No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.


I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.


Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.


There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.



This is a moot point. A complete red herring. A security guard or police officer carrying a hand gun simply cannot compete with a shooter with an AR 15 that can discharge Way more rounds, far faster and with more velocity. By the time the guard can get there many people will already be dead. The assault weapons need to be banned period. Reagan, the republican worshipped by the GOP, is the reason the ban actually passed in 1994.

Any discussion about security guards or good guys with a gun are just NRA talking points to divert attention from the fact that unfetter d access to large magazines and assault weapons are the real problem.




Ar 15s shoot just as fast as a pistol. You can talk about the velocity, but that won't come into play at the distances these engagements occur. Mass hooters aren't firing from 300metres.


https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna848346


Nothing in there on fire rate.

Each one fires as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Pistols can hold 30 rounds same as a rifle.

Pistols are better than rifles in cqb. A short barreled rifle or smg is better than a normal length rifle.

.45 wounds are worse.



Most pistol magazines are in the range of 10-17 rounds. 30 rounds are high capacity magazines, and are very uncommon for most pistol owners to have.

I grew up in a military family, we own guns, we hunt, my father was career military (21 years) and was an Army drill sergeant and military marksmanship instructor and competitive shooter and gun collector with dozens of pistols and rifles, and he carries for protection. Hundreds of servicemen owe their marksmanship badges to his instruction and dozens of the GIs he trained and sent into combat still keep in touch with him to this day. But he does not own a single semi-auto pistol or rifle, let alone a 30 round magazine, because he does not think civilians need them. That is the kind of gun culture I grew up in, not this NRA-sponsored kids-clutching-AR-15s-on-Christmas-cards idiocy of today. When we see people with AR-15s and people with high capacity magazines, it just screams "spray and pray" - it just screams "i don't know what I'm doing," it just screams "military wanna-be LARPer who probably needs psychiatric help."


It's the firearm I'm most familiar with from my time in the service. I don't think it screams spray and pray at all, and with the price of 5.56 today at roughly $.80 per round, spraying and praying $24 of ammo in a 30 round magazine is a waste of money. I doubt thats what your dad as a military marksmanship instructor was teaching.

Aimed accurate fire is far more scary than indiscriminate fire.


What service is that? AR-15s aren't used in the US military. They use M-16s. With regard to aimed accurate fire, the majority of military sniper rifles are bolt-action.


Aside from some NG or reserve units with really old equipment, the US military doesn't use M-16s any longer and hasn't for quite some time.


True that. M-4 is what is used in the Army and most of the Marine Corps. Some of the Corps still uses the M-16 as does some Air Force and Navy. Even Coast Guard has mostly switched. M-4 is a smaller, shortened version of the M16A2. Soon to be replaced it the army by the XM7. So M-16s are really a relic of the past.


No civilian needs a gun with 30 round magazines, or which will support a 30 round magazine. No civilian needs a gun patterned after AR-15s, M-16s, M-4's or any other military weapon.


30 round magazine is not a lot AR 15 is not a military gun. When did need enter the picture?
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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.



So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.


Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?


I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.



They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.


No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.


I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.


Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.


There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.



This is a moot point. A complete red herring. A security guard or police officer carrying a hand gun simply cannot compete with a shooter with an AR 15 that can discharge Way more rounds, far faster and with more velocity. By the time the guard can get there many people will already be dead. The assault weapons need to be banned period. Reagan, the republican worshipped by the GOP, is the reason the ban actually passed in 1994.

Any discussion about security guards or good guys with a gun are just NRA talking points to divert attention from the fact that unfetter d access to large magazines and assault weapons are the real problem.




Ar 15s shoot just as fast as a pistol. You can talk about the velocity, but that won't come into play at the distances these engagements occur. Mass hooters aren't firing from 300metres.


https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna848346


Nothing in there on fire rate.

Each one fires as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Pistols can hold 30 rounds same as a rifle.

Pistols are better than rifles in cqb. A short barreled rifle or smg is better than a normal length rifle.

.45 wounds are worse.



Most pistol magazines are in the range of 10-17 rounds. 30 rounds are high capacity magazines, and are very uncommon for most pistol owners to have.

I grew up in a military family, we own guns, we hunt, my father was career military (21 years) and was an Army drill sergeant and military marksmanship instructor and competitive shooter and gun collector with dozens of pistols and rifles, and he carries for protection. Hundreds of servicemen owe their marksmanship badges to his instruction and dozens of the GIs he trained and sent into combat still keep in touch with him to this day. But he does not own a single semi-auto pistol or rifle, let alone a 30 round magazine, because he does not think civilians need them. That is the kind of gun culture I grew up in, not this NRA-sponsored kids-clutching-AR-15s-on-Christmas-cards idiocy of today. When we see people with AR-15s and people with high capacity magazines, it just screams "spray and pray" - it just screams "i don't know what I'm doing," it just screams "military wanna-be LARPer who probably needs psychiatric help."


It's the firearm I'm most familiar with from my time in the service. I don't think it screams spray and pray at all, and with the price of 5.56 today at roughly $.80 per round, spraying and praying $24 of ammo in a 30 round magazine is a waste of money. I doubt thats what your dad as a military marksmanship instructor was teaching.

Aimed accurate fire is far more scary than indiscriminate fire.


What service is that? AR-15s aren't used in the US military. They use M-16s. With regard to aimed accurate fire, the majority of military sniper rifles are bolt-action.


Aside from some NG or reserve units with really old equipment, the US military doesn't use M-16s any longer and hasn't for quite some time.


There are still many M-16s in use, they phased in M-4's, starting in 2010 with the Army and 2016 with Marine Corps, and will be phasing the M-16s and M-4s out with XM7's in coming years.


I carried an M-4 in Iraq in 2007-2008 and so did everyone else there.
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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.



So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.


Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?


I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.



They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.


No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.


I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.


Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.


There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.



Do you have a citation wherein armed school security prevented a mass shooting event?


I do. There was a guy in Oklahoma who planned to shoot up the school. The principal had his own weapon and that was that.
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Anonymous wrote:Too bad, too sad nitwits. JJ is back and sanity has prevailed for the moment.


This young man has a very bright future. I dare racists reading this to listen to Justin Jones. You will be impressed despite your best efforts to hate him.


Jones has been arrested at least seventeen times. In one instance, he threw a cone at a car. In another, he threw a drink on the speaker of the state house.
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Anonymous wrote:Too bad, too sad nitwits. JJ is back and sanity has prevailed for the moment.


This young man has a very bright future. I dare racists reading this to listen to Justin Jones. You will be impressed despite your best efforts to hate him.


Jones has been arrested at least seventeen times. In one instance, he threw a cone at a car. In another, he threw a drink on the speaker of the state house.


Sounds like police harassment at the direction of republicans.
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Anonymous wrote:Too bad, too sad nitwits. JJ is back and sanity has prevailed for the moment.


This young man has a very bright future. I dare racists reading this to listen to Justin Jones. You will be impressed despite your best efforts to hate him.


Jones has been arrested at least seventeen times. In one instance, he threw a cone at a car. In another, he threw a drink on the speaker of the state house.


Sounds like police harassment at the direction of republicans.


Yea the popo made him throw that drink on the speaker of the house.

Do you live in SF? I know you’re not in TN.
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Anonymous wrote:Too bad, too sad nitwits. JJ is back and sanity has prevailed for the moment.


This young man has a very bright future. I dare racists reading this to listen to Justin Jones. You will be impressed despite your best efforts to hate him.


Jones has been arrested at least seventeen times. In one instance, he threw a cone at a car. In another, he threw a drink on the speaker of the state house.

Glen Casada is a disgraced corrupt embarrassment who filed an actual federal lawsuit claiming Barack Obama wasn’t an American citizen eligible to serve as President, a special prosecutor found that his chief of staff lied about Jones committing a crime in an attempted frame job, and he’s been indicted for money laundering.
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Anonymous wrote:Too bad, too sad nitwits. JJ is back and sanity has prevailed for the moment.


This young man has a very bright future. I dare racists reading this to listen to Justin Jones. You will be impressed despite your best efforts to hate him.


Jones has been arrested at least seventeen times. In one instance, he threw a cone at a car. In another, he threw a drink on the speaker of the state house.

Glen Casada is a disgraced corrupt embarrassment who filed an actual federal lawsuit claiming Barack Obama wasn’t an American citizen eligible to serve as President, a special prosecutor found that his chief of staff lied about Jones committing a crime in an attempted frame job, and he’s been indicted for money laundering.


Sure pal. Here is the account from our Leftie newspaper.

https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/crime/2019/11/13/glen-casada-dropping-charges-against-justin-jones/4179053002/
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Justin Jones arrests for throwing cone at drivers window:

https://apnews.com/article/tn-state-wire-nashville-fc0256caecfe368e1db5dc0d8f809c08
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Justin Jones does not follow rules:


Lingering charges from a series of demonstrations outside Tennessee's Capitol building against a well-known Nashville activist were dismissed Friday morning, including an allegation of assaulting an officer.

Justin Jones faced more than 15 charges ranging from trespassing to assault between June and August 2020.

Jones, a divinity school student and community organizer, was the face of many of the summer's demonstrations near the state Capitol.
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Anonymous wrote:Justin Jones does not follow rules:


Lingering charges from a series of demonstrations outside Tennessee's Capitol building against a well-known Nashville activist were dismissed Friday morning, including an allegation of assaulting an officer.

Justin Jones faced more than 15 charges ranging from trespassing to assault between June and August 2020.

Jones, a divinity school student and community organizer, was the face of many of the summer's demonstrations near the state Capitol.


Seems like a pattern of the oppressive state control by republicans. He is brave to stand up against republicans and their jack booted thugs. I know you conservatives do not care for the constitution but people are allowed to protest.

You people have used these tactics before-Martin Luther King arrested by you people 29 times, Gandhi was arrested 10 times and spent over 6 years in prison, Nelson Mandela was arrested on several occasions and stood trial four times. He spent over 27 years in prison, etc.
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Anonymous wrote:Justin Jones does not follow rules:


Lingering charges from a series of demonstrations outside Tennessee's Capitol building against a well-known Nashville activist were dismissed Friday morning, including an allegation of assaulting an officer.

Justin Jones faced more than 15 charges ranging from trespassing to assault between June and August 2020.

Jones, a divinity school student and community organizer, was the face of many of the summer's demonstrations near the state Capitol.


Seems like a pattern of the oppressive state control by republicans. He is brave to stand up against republicans and their jack booted thugs. I know you conservatives do not care for the constitution but people are allowed to protest.

You people have used these tactics before-Martin Luther King arrested by you people 29 times, Gandhi was arrested 10 times and spent over 6 years in prison, Nelson Mandela was arrested on several occasions and stood trial four times. He spent over 27 years in prison, etc.


If Justin Jones wants to assault people- which he’s done at least three times- probably he should find a jurisdiction that likes that sort of thing.

We have rules and laws and they apply to everyone.
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