The Fascist Part of the US strikes again in Tennessee

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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.

So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.

Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?

I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.

They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.

No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.

I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.

Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.

There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.

This is a moot point. A complete red herring. A security guard or police officer carrying a hand gun simply cannot compete with a shooter with an AR 15 that can discharge Way more rounds, far faster and with more velocity. By the time the guard can get there many people will already be dead. The assault weapons need to be banned period. Reagan, the republican worshipped by the GOP, is the reason the ban actually passed in 1994.

Any discussion about security guards or good guys with a gun are just NRA talking points to divert attention from the fact that unfetter d access to large magazines and assault weapons are the real problem.

Ar 15s shoot just as fast as a pistol. You can talk about the velocity, but that won't come into play at the distances these engagements occur. Mass hooters aren't firing from 300metres.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna848346

Nothing in there on fire rate.

Each one fires as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Pistols can hold 30 rounds same as a rifle.

Pistols are better than rifles in cqb. A short barreled rifle or smg is better than a normal length rifle.

.45 wounds are worse.

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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.

So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.

Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?

I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.

They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.

No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.

I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.

Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.

There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.

This is a moot point. A complete red herring. A security guard or police officer carrying a hand gun simply cannot compete with a shooter with an AR 15 that can discharge Way more rounds, far faster and with more velocity. By the time the guard can get there many people will already be dead. The assault weapons need to be banned period. Reagan, the republican worshipped by the GOP, is the reason the ban actually passed in 1994.

Any discussion about security guards or good guys with a gun are just NRA talking points to divert attention from the fact that unfetter d access to large magazines and assault weapons are the real problem.

Ar 15s shoot just as fast as a pistol. You can talk about the velocity, but that won't come into play at the distances these engagements occur. Mass hooters aren't firing from 300metres.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna848346

Nothing in there on fire rate.

Each one fires as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Pistols can hold 30 rounds same as a rifle.

Pistols are better than rifles in cqb. A short barreled rifle or smg is better than a normal length rifle.

.45 wounds are worse.

.45 hand gun has a big recoil. Low recoil = more accuracy = more casualties. The AR-15 is the perfect human lawnmower.

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Anonymous wrote:The people of Nashville and all democracies around the world have a victory today against republicans. The city council voted against the racist totalitarianism state republicans.

In case people don't now what you mean:

Justin Jones is reinstated to the TN House!

Boy, those TN lawmakers really showed him!

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/justin-jones-rei...son-tennessee-house/

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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.

So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.

Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?

I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.

They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.

No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.

I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.

Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.

There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.

This is a moot point. A complete red herring. A security guard or police officer carrying a hand gun simply cannot compete with a shooter with an AR 15 that can discharge Way more rounds, far faster and with more velocity. By the time the guard can get there many people will already be dead. The assault weapons need to be banned period. Reagan, the republican worshipped by the GOP, is the reason the ban actually passed in 1994.

Any discussion about security guards or good guys with a gun are just NRA talking points to divert attention from the fact that unfetter d access to large magazines and assault weapons are the real problem.

Ar 15s shoot just as fast as a pistol. You can talk about the velocity, but that won't come into play at the distances these engagements occur. Mass hooters aren't firing from 300metres.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna848346

Nothing in there on fire rate.

Each one fires as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Pistols can hold 30 rounds same as a rifle.

Pistols are better than rifles in cqb. A short barreled rifle or smg is better than a normal length rifle.

.45 wounds are worse.

Interesting info, I guess the gov’t should ban civilian access to those guns too. Completely fine by me. I’d support that legislation in a heartbeat.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Too bad, too sad nitwits. JJ is back and sanity has prevailed for the moment.

This young man has a very bright future. I dare racists reading this to listen to Justin Jones. You will be impressed despite your best efforts to hate him.

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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.

So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.

Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?

I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.

They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.

No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.

I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.

Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.

There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.

This is a moot point. A complete red herring. A security guard or police officer carrying a hand gun simply cannot compete with a shooter with an AR 15 that can discharge Way more rounds, far faster and with more velocity. By the time the guard can get there many people will already be dead. The assault weapons need to be banned period. Reagan, the republican worshipped by the GOP, is the reason the ban actually passed in 1994.

Any discussion about security guards or good guys with a gun are just NRA talking points to divert attention from the fact that unfetter d access to large magazines and assault weapons are the real problem.

Ar 15s shoot just as fast as a pistol. You can talk about the velocity, but that won't come into play at the distances these engagements occur. Mass hooters aren't firing from 300metres.

This is all nonsense from a physics perspective. Muzzle velocity absolutely matters at short ranges because that's part of what determines how much damage a bullet does. Add in the fact that shooting a rifle gives you more anchor points to manage recoil and you see the reason mass shooters pick them over handguns. They do more damage and are easier to control shooting repeatedly.

I'm neutral on assault weapon bans personally, but whatever your position you should get the physics right.

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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.

So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.

Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?

I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.

They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.

No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.

I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.

Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.

There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.

This is a moot point. A complete red herring. A security guard or police officer carrying a hand gun simply cannot compete with a shooter with an AR 15 that can discharge Way more rounds, far faster and with more velocity. By the time the guard can get there many people will already be dead. The assault weapons need to be banned period. Reagan, the republican worshipped by the GOP, is the reason the ban actually passed in 1994.

Any discussion about security guards or good guys with a gun are just NRA talking points to divert attention from the fact that unfetter d access to large magazines and assault weapons are the real problem.

Ar 15s shoot just as fast as a pistol. You can talk about the velocity, but that won't come into play at the distances these engagements occur. Mass hooters aren't firing from 300metres.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna848346

Nothing in there on fire rate.

Each one fires as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Pistols can hold 30 rounds same as a rifle.

Pistols are better than rifles in cqb. A short barreled rifle or smg is better than a normal length rifle.

.45 wounds are worse.

Most pistol magazines are in the range of 10-17 rounds. 30 rounds are high capacity magazines, and are very uncommon for most pistol owners to have.

I grew up in a military family, we own guns, we hunt, my father was career military (21 years) and was an Army drill sergeant and military marksmanship instructor and competitive shooter and gun collector with dozens of pistols and rifles, and he carries for protection. Hundreds of servicemen owe their marksmanship badges to his instruction and dozens of the GIs he trained and sent into combat still keep in touch with him to this day. But he does not own a single semi-auto pistol or rifle, let alone a 30 round magazine, because he does not think civilians need them. That is the kind of gun culture I grew up in, not this NRA-sponsored kids-clutching-AR-15s-on-Christmas-cards idiocy of today. When we see people with AR-15s and people with high capacity magazines, it just screams "spray and pray" - it just screams "i don't know what I'm doing," it just screams "military wanna-be LARPer who probably needs psychiatric help."

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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.

So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.

Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?

I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.

They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.

No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.

I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.

Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.

There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.

This is a moot point. A complete red herring. A security guard or police officer carrying a hand gun simply cannot compete with a shooter with an AR 15 that can discharge Way more rounds, far faster and with more velocity. By the time the guard can get there many people will already be dead. The assault weapons need to be banned period. Reagan, the republican worshipped by the GOP, is the reason the ban actually passed in 1994.

Any discussion about security guards or good guys with a gun are just NRA talking points to divert attention from the fact that unfetter d access to large magazines and assault weapons are the real problem.

Ar 15s shoot just as fast as a pistol. You can talk about the velocity, but that won't come into play at the distances these engagements occur. Mass hooters aren't firing from 300metres.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna848346

Nothing in there on fire rate.

Each one fires as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Pistols can hold 30 rounds same as a rifle.

Pistols are better than rifles in cqb. A short barreled rifle or smg is better than a normal length rifle.

.45 wounds are worse.

Most pistol magazines are in the range of 10-17 rounds. 30 rounds are high capacity magazines, and are very uncommon for most pistol owners to have.

I grew up in a military family, we own guns, we hunt, my father was career military (21 years) and was an Army drill sergeant and military marksmanship instructor and competitive shooter and gun collector with dozens of pistols and rifles, and he carries for protection. Hundreds of servicemen owe their marksmanship badges to his instruction and dozens of the GIs he trained and sent into combat still keep in touch with him to this day. But he does not own a single semi-auto pistol or rifle, let alone a 30 round magazine, because he does not think civilians need them. That is the kind of gun culture I grew up in, not this NRA-sponsored kids-clutching-AR-15s-on-Christmas-cards idiocy of today. When we see people with AR-15s and people with high capacity magazines, it just screams "spray and pray" - it just screams "i don't know what I'm doing," it just screams "military wanna-be LARPer who probably needs psychiatric help."

It's the firearm I'm most familiar with from my time in the service. I don't think it screams spray and pray at all, and with the price of 5.56 today at roughly $.80 per round, spraying and praying $24 of ammo in a 30 round magazine is a waste of money. I doubt thats what your dad as a military marksmanship instructor was teaching.

Aimed accurate fire is far more scary than indiscriminate fire.

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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.

So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.

Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?

I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.

They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.

No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.

I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.

Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.

There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.

This is a moot point. A complete red herring. A security guard or police officer carrying a hand gun simply cannot compete with a shooter with an AR 15 that can discharge Way more rounds, far faster and with more velocity. By the time the guard can get there many people will already be dead. The assault weapons need to be banned period. Reagan, the republican worshipped by the GOP, is the reason the ban actually passed in 1994.

Any discussion about security guards or good guys with a gun are just NRA talking points to divert attention from the fact that unfetter d access to large magazines and assault weapons are the real problem.

Ar 15s shoot just as fast as a pistol. You can talk about the velocity, but that won't come into play at the distances these engagements occur. Mass hooters aren't firing from 300metres.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna848346

Nothing in there on fire rate.

Each one fires as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Pistols can hold 30 rounds same as a rifle.

Pistols are better than rifles in cqb. A short barreled rifle or smg is better than a normal length rifle.

.45 wounds are worse.

Pistols do not hold 30 rounds. A 45 will 8-9 and a 9 mm will have 18. A rifle(AR15 or similar) fire a more powerful round vs any pistol round. SMG use pistol rounds. The barrel length have been shortened on these rifles so total length 32”, even shorter for military/government use. Which turns them into the preferred weapon for CQC even over an SMG. The pistol is a secondary weapon.

A lot of these mass shooters have ar15 (or similar) and a pistol. Some also had shotguns. There is a reason why assault rifles are the first choice of mass shooters and the police. Pistols loses to assault rifles unless the person is very, very close and they are not going to let you get that close.

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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.

So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.

Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?

I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.

They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.

No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.

I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.

Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.

There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.

This is a moot point. A complete red herring. A security guard or police officer carrying a hand gun simply cannot compete with a shooter with an AR 15 that can discharge Way more rounds, far faster and with more velocity. By the time the guard can get there many people will already be dead. The assault weapons need to be banned period. Reagan, the republican worshipped by the GOP, is the reason the ban actually passed in 1994.

Any discussion about security guards or good guys with a gun are just NRA talking points to divert attention from the fact that unfetter d access to large magazines and assault weapons are the real problem.

Ar 15s shoot just as fast as a pistol. You can talk about the velocity, but that won't come into play at the distances these engagements occur. Mass hooters aren't firing from 300metres.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna848346

Nothing in there on fire rate.

Each one fires as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Pistols can hold 30 rounds same as a rifle.

Pistols are better than rifles in cqb. A short barreled rifle or smg is better than a normal length rifle.

.45 wounds are worse.

Most pistol magazines are in the range of 10-17 rounds. 30 rounds are high capacity magazines, and are very uncommon for most pistol owners to have.

I grew up in a military family, we own guns, we hunt, my father was career military (21 years) and was an Army drill sergeant and military marksmanship instructor and competitive shooter and gun collector with dozens of pistols and rifles, and he carries for protection. Hundreds of servicemen owe their marksmanship badges to his instruction and dozens of the GIs he trained and sent into combat still keep in touch with him to this day. But he does not own a single semi-auto pistol or rifle, let alone a 30 round magazine, because he does not think civilians need them. That is the kind of gun culture I grew up in, not this NRA-sponsored kids-clutching-AR-15s-on-Christmas-cards idiocy of today. When we see people with AR-15s and people with high capacity magazines, it just screams "spray and pray" - it just screams "i don't know what I'm doing," it just screams "military wanna-be LARPer who probably needs psychiatric help."

It's the firearm I'm most familiar with from my time in the service. I don't think it screams spray and pray at all, and with the price of 5.56 today at roughly $.80 per round, spraying and praying $24 of ammo in a 30 round magazine is a waste of money. I doubt thats what your dad as a military marksmanship instructor was teaching.

Aimed accurate fire is far more scary than indiscriminate fire.

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Clearly the cost of ammo isn’t dissuading mass murderers, so you’re wrong there. Not sure why you’re trying to name drop your “time in the service” when it’s not relevant here since most of the mass murderers didn’t serve and you’re utterly and completely missing the point that spray and pray absolutely is what the gun nuts love.

And how the hell are you missing the point of what that PP said about his/her dad? Of course that’s not what he was teaching, that’s the point! The big spraying bullets guns are for losers who don’t have any marksmanship or skill. They don’t need it.

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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.

So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.

Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?

I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.

They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.

No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.

I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.

Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.

There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.

This is a moot point. A complete red herring. A security guard or police officer carrying a hand gun simply cannot compete with a shooter with an AR 15 that can discharge Way more rounds, far faster and with more velocity. By the time the guard can get there many people will already be dead. The assault weapons need to be banned period. Reagan, the republican worshipped by the GOP, is the reason the ban actually passed in 1994.

Any discussion about security guards or good guys with a gun are just NRA talking points to divert attention from the fact that unfetter d access to large magazines and assault weapons are the real problem.

Ar 15s shoot just as fast as a pistol. You can talk about the velocity, but that won't come into play at the distances these engagements occur. Mass hooters aren't firing from 300metres.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna848346

Nothing in there on fire rate.

Each one fires as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Pistols can hold 30 rounds same as a rifle.

Pistols are better than rifles in cqb. A short barreled rifle or smg is better than a normal length rifle.

.45 wounds are worse.

Most pistol magazines are in the range of 10-17 rounds. 30 rounds are high capacity magazines, and are very uncommon for most pistol owners to have.

I grew up in a military family, we own guns, we hunt, my father was career military (21 years) and was an Army drill sergeant and military marksmanship instructor and competitive shooter and gun collector with dozens of pistols and rifles, and he carries for protection. Hundreds of servicemen owe their marksmanship badges to his instruction and dozens of the GIs he trained and sent into combat still keep in touch with him to this day. But he does not own a single semi-auto pistol or rifle, let alone a 30 round magazine, because he does not think civilians need them. That is the kind of gun culture I grew up in, not this NRA-sponsored kids-clutching-AR-15s-on-Christmas-cards idiocy of today. When we see people with AR-15s and people with high capacity magazines, it just screams "spray and pray" - it just screams "i don't know what I'm doing," it just screams "military wanna-be LARPer who probably needs psychiatric help."

It's the firearm I'm most familiar with from my time in the service. I don't think it screams spray and pray at all, and with the price of 5.56 today at roughly $.80 per round, spraying and praying $24 of ammo in a 30 round magazine is a waste of money. I doubt thats what your dad as a military marksmanship instructor was teaching.

Aimed accurate fire is far more scary than indiscriminate fire.

DP military use is different. You provide suppressive fire while the other unit moves. This pins down the enemy so the movement unit can take position to kill them. Yes you burn through ammo in combat and most is inaccurate fire. You do not seem familiar with combat. In Afghanistan it took about 250,000 round per kill. US forces in Iraq expended around six billion small arm bullets between 2002 and 2005.

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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.

So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.

Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?

I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.

They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.

No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.

I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.

Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.

There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.

This is a moot point. A complete red herring. A security guard or police officer carrying a hand gun simply cannot compete with a shooter with an AR 15 that can discharge Way more rounds, far faster and with more velocity. By the time the guard can get there many people will already be dead. The assault weapons need to be banned period. Reagan, the republican worshipped by the GOP, is the reason the ban actually passed in 1994.

Any discussion about security guards or good guys with a gun are just NRA talking points to divert attention from the fact that unfetter d access to large magazines and assault weapons are the real problem.

Ar 15s shoot just as fast as a pistol. You can talk about the velocity, but that won't come into play at the distances these engagements occur. Mass hooters aren't firing from 300metres.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna848346

Nothing in there on fire rate.

Each one fires as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Pistols can hold 30 rounds same as a rifle.

Pistols are better than rifles in cqb. A short barreled rifle or smg is better than a normal length rifle.

.45 wounds are worse.

Most pistol magazines are in the range of 10-17 rounds. 30 rounds are high capacity magazines, and are very uncommon for most pistol owners to have.

I grew up in a military family, we own guns, we hunt, my father was career military (21 years) and was an Army drill sergeant and military marksmanship instructor and competitive shooter and gun collector with dozens of pistols and rifles, and he carries for protection. Hundreds of servicemen owe their marksmanship badges to his instruction and dozens of the GIs he trained and sent into combat still keep in touch with him to this day. But he does not own a single semi-auto pistol or rifle, let alone a 30 round magazine, because he does not think civilians need them. That is the kind of gun culture I grew up in, not this NRA-sponsored kids-clutching-AR-15s-on-Christmas-cards idiocy of today. When we see people with AR-15s and people with high capacity magazines, it just screams "spray and pray" - it just screams "i don't know what I'm doing," it just screams "military wanna-be LARPer who probably needs psychiatric help."

It's the firearm I'm most familiar with from my time in the service. I don't think it screams spray and pray at all, and with the price of 5.56 today at roughly $.80 per round, spraying and praying $24 of ammo in a 30 round magazine is a waste of money. I doubt thats what your dad as a military marksmanship instructor was teaching.

Aimed accurate fire is far more scary than indiscriminate fire.

What service is that? AR-15s aren't used in the US military. They use M-16s. With regard to aimed accurate fire, the majority of military sniper rifles are bolt-action.

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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.

So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.

Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?

I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.

They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.

No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.

I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.

Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.

There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.

This is a moot point. A complete red herring. A security guard or police officer carrying a hand gun simply cannot compete with a shooter with an AR 15 that can discharge Way more rounds, far faster and with more velocity. By the time the guard can get there many people will already be dead. The assault weapons need to be banned period. Reagan, the republican worshipped by the GOP, is the reason the ban actually passed in 1994.

Any discussion about security guards or good guys with a gun are just NRA talking points to divert attention from the fact that unfetter d access to large magazines and assault weapons are the real problem.

Ar 15s shoot just as fast as a pistol. You can talk about the velocity, but that won't come into play at the distances these engagements occur. Mass hooters aren't firing from 300metres.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna848346

Nothing in there on fire rate.

Each one fires as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Pistols can hold 30 rounds same as a rifle.

Pistols are better than rifles in cqb. A short barreled rifle or smg is better than a normal length rifle.

.45 wounds are worse.

Most pistol magazines are in the range of 10-17 rounds. 30 rounds are high capacity magazines, and are very uncommon for most pistol owners to have.

I grew up in a military family, we own guns, we hunt, my father was career military (21 years) and was an Army drill sergeant and military marksmanship instructor and competitive shooter and gun collector with dozens of pistols and rifles, and he carries for protection. Hundreds of servicemen owe their marksmanship badges to his instruction and dozens of the GIs he trained and sent into combat still keep in touch with him to this day. But he does not own a single semi-auto pistol or rifle, let alone a 30 round magazine, because he does not think civilians need them. That is the kind of gun culture I grew up in, not this NRA-sponsored kids-clutching-AR-15s-on-Christmas-cards idiocy of today. When we see people with AR-15s and people with high capacity magazines, it just screams "spray and pray" - it just screams "i don't know what I'm doing," it just screams "military wanna-be LARPer who probably needs psychiatric help."

It's the firearm I'm most familiar with from my time in the service. I don't think it screams spray and pray at all, and with the price of 5.56 today at roughly $.80 per round, spraying and praying $24 of ammo in a 30 round magazine is a waste of money. I doubt thats what your dad as a military marksmanship instructor was teaching.

Aimed accurate fire is far more scary than indiscriminate fire.

DP military use is different. You provide suppressive fire while the other unit moves. This pins down the enemy so the movement unit can take position to kill them. Yes you burn through ammo in combat and most is inaccurate fire. You do not seem familiar with combat. In Afghanistan it took about 250,000 round per kill. US forces in Iraq expended around six billion small arm bullets between 2002 and 2005.

30 round magazines are completely inappropriate for any kind of civilian use and it's frankly bizarre and inappropriate that American civilians think they need to emulate the military. Yet here we are.

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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.

So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.

Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?

I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.

They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.

No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.

I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.

Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.

There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.

This is a moot point. A complete red herring. A security guard or police officer carrying a hand gun simply cannot compete with a shooter with an AR 15 that can discharge Way more rounds, far faster and with more velocity. By the time the guard can get there many people will already be dead. The assault weapons need to be banned period. Reagan, the republican worshipped by the GOP, is the reason the ban actually passed in 1994.

Any discussion about security guards or good guys with a gun are just NRA talking points to divert attention from the fact that unfetter d access to large magazines and assault weapons are the real problem.

Ar 15s shoot just as fast as a pistol. You can talk about the velocity, but that won't come into play at the distances these engagements occur. Mass hooters aren't firing from 300metres.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna848346

Nothing in there on fire rate.

Each one fires as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Pistols can hold 30 rounds same as a rifle.

Pistols are better than rifles in cqb. A short barreled rifle or smg is better than a normal length rifle.

.45 wounds are worse.

Most pistol magazines are in the range of 10-17 rounds. 30 rounds are high capacity magazines, and are very uncommon for most pistol owners to have.

I grew up in a military family, we own guns, we hunt, my father was career military (21 years) and was an Army drill sergeant and military marksmanship instructor and competitive shooter and gun collector with dozens of pistols and rifles, and he carries for protection. Hundreds of servicemen owe their marksmanship badges to his instruction and dozens of the GIs he trained and sent into combat still keep in touch with him to this day. But he does not own a single semi-auto pistol or rifle, let alone a 30 round magazine, because he does not think civilians need them. That is the kind of gun culture I grew up in, not this NRA-sponsored kids-clutching-AR-15s-on-Christmas-cards idiocy of today. When we see people with AR-15s and people with high capacity magazines, it just screams "spray and pray" - it just screams "i don't know what I'm doing," it just screams "military wanna-be LARPer who probably needs psychiatric help."

It's the firearm I'm most familiar with from my time in the service. I don't think it screams spray and pray at all, and with the price of 5.56 today at roughly $.80 per round, spraying and praying $24 of ammo in a 30 round magazine is a waste of money. I doubt thats what your dad as a military marksmanship instructor was teaching.

Aimed accurate fire is far more scary than indiscriminate fire.

What service is that? AR-15s aren't used in the US military. They use M-16s. With regard to aimed accurate fire, the majority of military sniper rifles are bolt-action.

Aside from some NG or reserve units with really old equipment, the US military doesn't use M-16s any longer and hasn't for quite some time.

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No, they weren't and never were.

I reluctantly support the expulsion. Because they were blocking the legislative body. It's no different from what the protesters were doing on J6. There is a time and venue for protest, but protest does not mean you stop other people from executing their legislative duties.

So where is the expulsion of the House and Senate GOP who aided in the J6 insurrection?

The PP would say that’s different, that’s freedom of speech.

There’s always an excuse for the GOP bad behavior isn’t bad.

Republicans need to stop watching Fox News and all their made up lies. Why are Republicans ok with all of the shootings in the US?

I don't think they are. What they are against is most of the solutions that get floated.

They refuse to acknowledge that there are many proposals and solutions that would be much better than anything the Republicans are proposing.

No. They get people want to do stuff and they don't like the solutions. Republicans are not proposing anything so the second part of your statement does not make sense.

I posted a few pages ago of the legislation the Republicans have either passed or are considering when it comes to school safety.
Look back and have a gander. Yes - they are passing legislation.

Putting more armed security guards in the schools doesn't solve the problem. Just look at Parkland and even the one at Coventry, where at least two of the dead adults were armed.

But sure keep bleating on about this.

There are more examples of school security guards saving lives than what happened in Parkland... which was truly a disgrace and an anomaly. Do some research.
And, provide a citation that two of the adults at Coventry were armed.

This is a moot point. A complete red herring. A security guard or police officer carrying a hand gun simply cannot compete with a shooter with an AR 15 that can discharge Way more rounds, far faster and with more velocity. By the time the guard can get there many people will already be dead. The assault weapons need to be banned period. Reagan, the republican worshipped by the GOP, is the reason the ban actually passed in 1994.

Any discussion about security guards or good guys with a gun are just NRA talking points to divert attention from the fact that unfetter d access to large magazines and assault weapons are the real problem.

Ar 15s shoot just as fast as a pistol. You can talk about the velocity, but that won't come into play at the distances these engagements occur. Mass hooters aren't firing from 300metres.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/amp/ncna848346

Nothing in there on fire rate.

Each one fires as fast as you can pull the trigger.

Pistols can hold 30 rounds same as a rifle.

Pistols are better than rifles in cqb. A short barreled rifle or smg is better than a normal length rifle.

.45 wounds are worse.

Most pistol magazines are in the range of 10-17 rounds. 30 rounds are high capacity magazines, and are very uncommon for most pistol owners to have.

I grew up in a military family, we own guns, we hunt, my father was career military (21 years) and was an Army drill sergeant and military marksmanship instructor and competitive shooter and gun collector with dozens of pistols and rifles, and he carries for protection. Hundreds of servicemen owe their marksmanship badges to his instruction and dozens of the GIs he trained and sent into combat still keep in touch with him to this day. But he does not own a single semi-auto pistol or rifle, let alone a 30 round magazine, because he does not think civilians need them. That is the kind of gun culture I grew up in, not this NRA-sponsored kids-clutching-AR-15s-on-Christmas-cards idiocy of today. When we see people with AR-15s and people with high capacity magazines, it just screams "spray and pray" - it just screams "i don't know what I'm doing," it just screams "military wanna-be LARPer who probably needs psychiatric help."

It's the firearm I'm most familiar with from my time in the service. I don't think it screams spray and pray at all, and with the price of 5.56 today at roughly $.80 per round, spraying and praying $24 of ammo in a 30 round magazine is a waste of money. I doubt thats what your dad as a military marksmanship instructor was teaching.

Aimed accurate fire is far more scary than indiscriminate fire.

What service is that? AR-15s aren't used in the US military. They use M-16s. With regard to aimed accurate fire, the majority of military sniper rifles are bolt-action.

Aside from some NG or reserve units with really old equipment, the US military doesn't use M-16s any longer and hasn't for quite some time.

True that. M-4 is what is used in the Army and most of the Marine Corps. Some of the Corps still uses the M-16 as does some Air Force and Navy. Even Coast Guard has mostly switched. M-4 is a smaller, shortened version of the M16A2. Soon to be replaced it the army by the XM7. So M-16s are really a relic of the past.