Why would she be unemployable? She seemed like a pretty competent EA. Maybe not an anchor but EA seems fine. |
Oh for sure- grieving the life she was having as opposed to grieving Logan himself, for sure. But the focus on getting upstairs. It actually reminded me of when Logan was sick and the kids wanted to get upstairs to see him and Marcia would deny them going upstairs, in season 1. It seems like it’s just a metaphor. As opposed to a straightforward , “what’s she trying to get from upstairs?” |
You missed my point. I think it’s fun to take the pieces apart and look for clues. But you’re arguing that it goes way, way beyond that, and that people are getting sucked into Logan’s/the kids’ moral compasses, and I think that’s plain wrong. If anybody is rooting for the bad guys, it’s because it’s fun, not because they identify deeply with Kendall or whoever and want to adopt their morals, that’s silly. |
Here's what I think the arc will be for the end of the season and show.
All of the kids will fight one another for power and control. They will not return to their Pierce media empire as a united front. By the end of the show all the kids will have betrayed one another, except maybe Willa's husband who is cray but may have achieved some weird growth through his dad's death. We saw it already as Kendall and Roman didn't include Shiv in making decisions about the PR strategy, and then with Kendall contradicting Roman's decision. Also with Roman willing to betray Jerri and Kendall willing to use the executive's daughter's insider training against him. If any of the kids wind up in charge, they will end up with all bridges to their siblings burned, totally and completely alone. Maybe Kendall will die from the strain/stress and Roman will be in charge, or vice versa. Someone will be victorious but the cost will make it extremely hollow, and in this way they will have become their father: someone who wins but who can only have transactional personal relationships. Unless Greg winds up in charge, which would also be completely hilarious. |
I’ve heard this theory a lot, and it would really disappoint me. Just makes a mockery of the whole show. |
And Greg himself has become a mockery lately. He has always been a butt kisser but his comments and tone when Kerry was getting her things felt out of place and too obvious. It is fun when he interacts with Tom but I don’t like the character otherwise. |
I think the caricature is the point. He's a buffoon and it's all "regulated" by the tight control Logan had over all the chaos. Logan dying is like the Soviet Union crumbling--the chaos is now going to bubble up and be unleashed. Greg is searching for his new role, and has a limited toolbox to use to create it (trying the family card on the 3 siblings, etc. was cringeworthy, and obviously they saw through it). Tom, on the other hand, is trying his best to be "nice," including asking Shiv to be nice to him, genuinely (it seemed) trying to help the kids say goodbye, etc., and sucking up to the executives. It hurts more because he's smarter and slyer and no one's buying what he's selling.... |
I'm rooting for Connor and Willa to build the family that Connor never had but so desperately wants. He's not interested in the company, so just go be rich and be happy. Get a lot of therapy. Willa seems fairly perceptive and already adept at operating above the fray with the siblings. Nurture the relationship and fly free Connor! I listen to Pop Culture Happy Hour and Linda Holmes predicts somewhat the same as you - but specifically that Kendall gets the company and then realizes it's not what he really wants. I'm not totally convinced but I do agree that the three siblings won't be able to stop fighting and ultimately end up majorly at odds with each other. And in the process the audience realizes they are "constitutionally incapable" as Karl so eloquently put it. I hope we get to see Nan Pierce again because I think everyone deserves to hear her speech to the kids about their father's death. I can't wait. |
Unemployable was the wrong word....she will become "underemployed" in her mind. |
I think it will be like the Wire finale. Where all the characters take the place of the generation before them or something like that.
Kendall - Logan, becomes ruthless and has awful family relationships as he backstabs his siblings and ignores his children Roman - Greg’s grandfather. Shiv - didn’t Logan have a sister who had a mental or physical disability? That’s not Shiv but I think she will neutralized in terms of her impact on the business. End of show - the three siblings will not be close. Kendall will have won the war but he has no one to love him. |
I am wondering what the conversation on the stairs between Tom and Shiv represents. When he talks about early in their relationship, and Shiv was in a "very bad place", then Tom flies to Paris to meet up with her, puts his arm around her, she was wearing a silk shirt, etc.
It was bizarre. I know Tom was trying to make Shiv feel better and take care of her in his Tom way, but it must have some significance re Shiv's past. The only other time I have heard about her past was that she drank a lot and hooked up with Kendall's friend/ |
The one thing I like about Willa is her transparency. She owns the 'gold-digger' label and she doesn't care. It's much better than a Marica or a Kerri that PRETEND that's now why they were with Logan. Willa even pointblank tells Connor--of course I'm here for $ and security, but I'm not walking. Own that sh*t!! My best friend was a SAHM from the start and was not quiet about how she didn't want to work. She never once used to say how hard she had it at home and how being a SAHM was oh so difficult or flaunt her degree as a means to show her value. She even makes joke about the lifestyle, especially once the kids were in school all day. And I 100% love her for it. Own your choices and stand proud in them. |
Ooh, I like this connection about how the rift affects Kendall and Roman the same way it affected Logan and Greg's grandfather. I also read somewhere about how the director was "devastated" about the season and it could have referred to the fact that the show was coming to a close but also makes sense in terms of the show having a finale that is devastating for the characters, so I do think this is the direction we're going generally... |
Willa is not a gold-digger. She was an escort, plain and simple. And Conner paid for her to be his girlfriend and then wanted her to be his wife. If she were a gold-digger she'd be pretending to love him and not actually be a professional escort. |
I don't really understand why Shiv acquiesced to the arrangement where Roman and Kendall assume "temporary" control of the company. She of all people should know that there is no way they will relinquish or share any power with her, once ensconced. Why didn't she fight this?! It makes me so mad, the way they spoke to her. I can only assume that between her father's death and her pregnancy she was so overwhelmed that she just threw up her hands. It's very unfortunate and I think she will regret this later. It's clear that she's already unhappy with it. |