FCPS Boundary Review Updates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An Observation:

It appears to me that this began because the School Board wanted "equity." We know that for years many have been pressing for sending Great Falls to Herndon because "equity." School Board members have commented on it. The leaders of the Fairfax NAACP have commented on it. (one of them lives in that area and has been pushing for this.)

From reading this thread, I think that West Springfield/Lewis is also a target.

The rest of us are residual victims of this boundary study.

The irony: Some of us who were not the targets have become the targets. Now, Great Falls appears safe (and I agree it should be safe) but the rest of us are being "tweaked." And, a few of us, who thought we were safely staying where we currently attend) are now the "tweaked."

I do not live in the Emerald Chase neighborhood --though I am aware of the issues. I suspect that they schemed the responses after reading on here about some neighborhoods who were changed since the original three sets of slides.

My neighborhood is being faced with a ridiculous 'tweak" from THRU. All because they wanted to move Great Falls to Langley. That failed, and now they need to play with the other neighborhoods.

My suggestion: "86" the boundary study. Fix Coates and any other school that is dramatically overcrowded.

+1000. Lots of people are likely going to be collateral damage so they can save face, even though they lack the courage of their own convictions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is my suggestion for Emerald Chase:

1. Lobby to stay at Oak Hill along with the Franklin Farm/Navy Island kids being sent there. There is room, I think according to the slides.
2. Go to Franklin along with the Navy Island. Again, I think there is room.
3. Lobby to go to Oakton along with the Navy Island. Chantilly is a non-starter.

I disagree with this gambit. If you want to attend Oakton HS pony up the cash to buy a house in Oakton. I don’t want to be fighting five years from now to keep my Oakton address home zoned to Oakton HS to accommodate “zone stability” for the Emerald Chase vultures.

Just because your town name is Oakton and the high school name is Oakton doesn't make it your community high school. Ask all the children all over FCPS who live much closer to one high school and go to a different one. The name doesn't matter, you can't use it as an excuse.

This is the silliest post.

Of course, if you live in Oakton you should attend the Oakton neighborhood high school. If you live in Lorton you should attend the Lorton neighborhood high school. If you live in Falls Church, you should attend the Falls Church neighborhood high school. It really is that simple.

At a minimum, students should be zoned for the high school that shares their home zip code, with all boundary tweaks limited to neighborhoods with zip codes outside of the immediate high school zip code.

Sounds like you are making the case for all the homes with a Herndon address and zip code to attend Herndon High School and not Langley.

I don't know anything about or know anyone from that part of the county, but sure.

If the house has the exact same zip code as the high school, they should be zoned for that high school.

I live in Oakton and I do believe that Oakton addresses should be locked in to attend Oakton HS. That being said, zip codes are not the best guide, as Oakton HS has a Vienna address.

This isn’t about Langley or those Herndon addresses that are zoned to Forestville.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is my suggestion for Emerald Chase:

1. Lobby to stay at Oak Hill along with the Franklin Farm/Navy Island kids being sent there. There is room, I think according to the slides.
2. Go to Franklin along with the Navy Island. Again, I think there is room.
3. Lobby to go to Oakton along with the Navy Island. Chantilly is a non-starter.

I disagree with this gambit. If you want to attend Oakton HS pony up the cash to buy a house in Oakton. I don’t want to be fighting five years from now to keep my Oakton address home zoned to Oakton HS to accommodate “zone stability” for the Emerald Chase vultures.

Just because your town name is Oakton and the high school name is Oakton doesn't make it your community high school. Ask all the children all over FCPS who live much closer to one high school and go to a different one. The name doesn't matter, you can't use it as an excuse.

This is the silliest post.

Of course, if you live in Oakton you should attend the Oakton neighborhood high school. If you live in Lorton you should attend the Lorton neighborhood high school. If you live in Falls Church, you should attend the Falls Church neighborhood high school. It really is that simple.

At a minimum, students should be zoned for the high school that shares their home zip code, with all boundary tweaks limited to neighborhoods with zip codes outside of the immediate high school zip code.

You realize there are more than 1 Falls Church “neighborhood” schools right?

They all have different zip codes...

Falls Church high school 22042
Marshall High School 22043
Justice High School 22044

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is my suggestion for Emerald Chase:

1. Lobby to stay at Oak Hill along with the Franklin Farm/Navy Island kids being sent there. There is room, I think according to the slides.
2. Go to Franklin along with the Navy Island. Again, I think there is room.
3. Lobby to go to Oakton along with the Navy Island. Chantilly is a non-starter.

I disagree with this gambit. If you want to attend Oakton HS pony up the cash to buy a house in Oakton. I don’t want to be fighting five years from now to keep my Oakton address home zoned to Oakton HS to accommodate “zone stability” for the Emerald Chase vultures.

Just because your town name is Oakton and the high school name is Oakton doesn't make it your community high school. Ask all the children all over FCPS who live much closer to one high school and go to a different one. The name doesn't matter, you can't use it as an excuse.

This is the silliest post.

Of course, if you live in Oakton you should attend the Oakton neighborhood high school. If you live in Lorton you should attend the Lorton neighborhood high school. If you live in Falls Church, you should attend the Falls Church neighborhood high school. It really is that simple.

At a minimum, students should be zoned for the high school that shares their home zip code, with all boundary tweaks limited to neighborhoods with zip codes outside of the immediate high school zip code.

So Longfellow is now the Marshall HS feeder. Langley and McLean are both in 22101 with Cooper.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is my suggestion for Emerald Chase:

1. Lobby to stay at Oak Hill along with the Franklin Farm/Navy Island kids being sent there. There is room, I think according to the slides.
2. Go to Franklin along with the Navy Island. Again, I think there is room.
3. Lobby to go to Oakton along with the Navy Island. Chantilly is a non-starter.

I disagree with this gambit. If you want to attend Oakton HS pony up the cash to buy a house in Oakton. I don’t want to be fighting five years from now to keep my Oakton address home zoned to Oakton HS to accommodate “zone stability” for the Emerald Chase vultures.

Just because your town name is Oakton and the high school name is Oakton doesn't make it your community high school. Ask all the children all over FCPS who live much closer to one high school and go to a different one. The name doesn't matter, you can't use it as an excuse.

This is the silliest post.

Of course, if you live in Oakton you should attend the Oakton neighborhood high school. If you live in Lorton you should attend the Lorton neighborhood high school. If you live in Falls Church, you should attend the Falls Church neighborhood high school. It really is that simple.

At a minimum, students should be zoned for the high school that shares their home zip code, with all boundary tweaks limited to neighborhoods with zip codes outside of the immediate high school zip code.

Sounds like you are making the case for all the homes with a Herndon address and zip code to attend Herndon High School and not Langley.

There’s no high school in Great Falls so that’s an unlikely argument for someone at Langley to make.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Here is my suggestion for Emerald Chase:

1. Lobby to stay at Oak Hill along with the Franklin Farm/Navy Island kids being sent there. There is room, I think according to the slides.
2. Go to Franklin along with the Navy Island. Again, I think there is room.
3. Lobby to go to Oakton along with the Navy Island. Chantilly is a non-starter.

I disagree with this gambit. If you want to attend Oakton HS pony up the cash to buy a house in Oakton. I don’t want to be fighting five years from now to keep my Oakton address home zoned to Oakton HS to accommodate “zone stability” for the Emerald Chase vultures.

Just because your town name is Oakton and the high school name is Oakton doesn't make it your community high school. Ask all the children all over FCPS who live much closer to one high school and go to a different one. The name doesn't matter, you can't use it as an excuse.

This is the silliest post.

Of course, if you live in Oakton you should attend the Oakton neighborhood high school. If you live in Lorton you should attend the Lorton neighborhood high school. If you live in Falls Church, you should attend the Falls Church neighborhood high school. It really is that simple.

At a minimum, students should be zoned for the high school that shares their home zip code, with all boundary tweaks limited to neighborhoods with zip codes outside of the immediate high school zip code.

Sounds like you are making the case for all the homes with a Herndon address and zip code to attend Herndon High School and not Langley.

There’s no high school in Great Falls so that’s an unlikely argument for someone at Langley to make.

I would ignore that post. It is either a straight—up troll or an Emerald Chase type opportunist.

[Anonymous]

The zip code suggestion is the dumbest idea yet.

Suggest the proponents look up a zip code map of Fairfax County.

And, who gets to go to Madison? Robinson? Lewis? Edison? etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The zip code suggestion is the dumbest idea yet.

Suggest the proponents look up a zip code map of Fairfax County.

And, who gets to go to Madison? Robinson? Lewis? Edison? etc.

You didn't read the post.

I suggested that if the neighborhood shares a zip code with the high school, they should not be able to be rezoned from the high school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The zip code suggestion is the dumbest idea yet.

Suggest the proponents look up a zip code map of Fairfax County.

And, who gets to go to Madison? Robinson? Lewis? Edison? etc.

You didn't read the post.

I suggested that if the neighborhood shares a zip code with the high school, they should not be able to be rezoned from the high school.

At no point did I say that only neighborhoods from that zip cod can attend the high school.

So, using one of your examples, if someone owns a house in 22130, sharing that zip code with Edison High School, they should be locked into that high school, with FCPS prevented from moving them to Hayfield (22315), Annandale (22003) or Lewis (22150) high schools.

Owning a home in the exact same zip code as a high school should provide some level of stability and protection from rezoning.

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Anonymous wrote:The zip code suggestion is the dumbest idea yet.

Suggest the proponents look up a zip code map of Fairfax County.

And, who gets to go to Madison? Robinson? Lewis? Edison? etc.

You didn't read the post.

I suggested that if the neighborhood shares a zip code with the high school, they should not be able to be rezoned from the high school.

I believe your post is well-intended, but you appear to have run afoul of stage 2 of the Emerald Chase opportunity play:

Stage 1: flood other feedback sessions with upgrade requests.

Stage 2: weaponize Langley against anyone who opposes the opportunity play by framing their plight as similar to the Herndon-addressed, Langley-zoned homes (it is not evenly close to being the same thing)

[Anonymous]

I just want to know how we make it public to Thru and the school board that the feedback process is compromised. It needs to be done in a public way so they can't ignore it. I feel like they have already started with the meetings and they won't change what they planned on doing unless they are publicly called out on it.

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Emerald Chase parent here definitely not advocating for Chantilly as it’s unrealistic with it being overcrowded. Not sure why anyone thinks that’s event remotely a possibility.

We would like to stay at Oak Hill because it’s the closest school to us and our child struggles a lot with changes. So uprooting them and sending them to another school would be extremely rough, as it would be for all kids.

The County could do themselves a favor and say what their grandfathering policy will be because I think a lot of parents might not have an issue if they knew how it would work.

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to know how we make it public to Thru and the school board that the feedback process is compromised. It needs to be done in a public way so they can't ignore it. I feel like they have already started with the meetings and they won't change what they planned on doing unless they are publicly called out on it.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:I just want to know how we make it public to Thru and the school board that the feedback process is compromised. It needs to be done in a public way so they can't ignore it. I feel like they have already started with the meetings and they won't change what they planned on doing unless they are publicly called out on it.

I'll attend a session next week and put in a comment that Emerald Chase comments from earlier sessions flooding the system demonstrate the feedback process is compromised. Others can upvote that and try and send the message.

Agree their general approach is to largely do the exact same thing at every community meeting, whether it works or not.

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Emerald Chase handled their business poorly yesterday. It’s a bit hypocritical to say “don’t take it out on us, we are not the bad actors” when Emerald Chase basically squashed another part of the county in hopes of getting something for themselves. That’s pretty crappy.

What we want is long-term zone stability, which is why we’re asking for the middle and high school change. We’ve been rezoned over and over and are now facing yet another round for elementary and high school when FCPS isn’t bothering to do anything about the real split-feeder problem, which is Rachel Carson. That means FCPS will likely come back for us again in five years when Carson is expected to be one of if not the most overcrowded middle schools in the county. We want out of the split-feeder system so FCPS will finally leave us alone.

The entire western part of the county will always be vulnerable to shifts because of the middle school to high school imbalance. They should have shifted middle school boundaries to better align with existing high school boundaries with the goal of only having a middle school split between two high schools at most. The boundaries would be more stable if they got Oakton out of Carson and Westfield out of Franklin.