DCPS lottery data

[Anonymous]

I know there have been other threads on this, but is the pathetic FY16-17 data at http://dcps.dc.gov/node/1150887 really all they have released? While it's nice to see how deep schools went into their waitlists last year, the lottery info for FY16-FY17 is next to useless without knowing how long the waitlists are, how many kids have preference, etc. Has anyone started a petition to get them to release the data? How are parents supposed to judge their odds of getting into a school in next year's lottery?

[Anonymous]

Someone should file a FOIA request.

[Anonymous]

DCPS will soon collapse when 70% of kids in DC attend charters. Can't run a system with just extreme rich and poor families.

[Anonymous]

The charter lottery results for this year's lottery are more helpful: http://www.dcpcsb.org/blog/demand-quality-dc-public-charter-school-continues-grow-washington-dc. But is there information on the number of seats schools actually offered in the lottery and/or information on how many admitted/waitlisted students had preferences anywhere?

The MySchoolDC lottery process and waitlist tracking has been great and improved every year. Why is the reporting of results getting worse???

[Anonymous]

Why?

Because the MySchoolBoard - Niles, Henderson and reps from some charters and DCPCSB - decided to release less data for DPCS based on DCPS concerns about parents drawing the wrong conclusions from it (eg wait list = good school, no wait list = bad school).

You can find the meeting minutes under the MSDC Board page on the website. Decision taken a few months ago.

[Anonymous]

Believe it or not, DCPS may have more pressimg concerns than releasing data that will allow you to obsess over every aspect of this process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DCPS will soon collapse when 70% of kids in DC attend charters. Can't run a system with just extreme rich and poor families.

Where are you coming from on this? DCPS enrollment is up, charter enrollment has leveled off in the last couple years with few new charter seats being created. Charter enrolment hovers around 45% with year-on-year gains slowing dramatically since Bowser's election.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Believe it or not, DCPS may have more pressimg concerns than releasing data that will allow you to obsess over every aspect of this process.

It's hardly obsessing to want to know if you should even bother using one of your lottery slots on a given school if there is pretty much zero chance you will ever get in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Believe it or not, DCPS may have more pressimg concerns than releasing data that will allow you to obsess over every aspect of this process.

It's hardly obsessing to want to know if you should even bother using one of your lottery slots on a given school if there is pretty much zero chance you will ever get in.

And to add to that, to assess if you even have a chance of getting your own neighborhood school or if you will realistically need to make other plans if a significant number of IB kids are waitlisted.

[Anonymous]

Here are the meeting minutes from February 2016 where they discussed what lottery results data would and would not be released publicly for this year.

https://ms-dc.s3.amazonaws.com/docs/clb-meeting-minutes-2416.pdf

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Believe it or not, DCPS may have more pressimg concerns than releasing data that will allow you to obsess over every aspect of this process.

It's hardly obsessing to want to know if you should even bother using one of your lottery slots on a given school if there is pretty much zero chance you will ever get in.

And to add to that, to assess if you even have a chance of getting your own neighborhood school or if you will realistically need to make other plans if a significant number of IB kids are waitlisted.

I would love to know who the DCPS apologist is who comes on every single one of these threads and plays the whole "nothing to see here" routine. This data has been provided every year for at least the last decade. This data is important. This lottery is run by our elected government and should be accountable. The lottery allows for the claiming of various "preferences" which in itself creates an opportunity for abuse. DCPS has not formally announced why it has stopped releasing certain data, but has rather left residents to figure it out for themselves by reading minutes of a meeting. Where's the press release or announcement? But fine...someone on this board continues to pooh-pooh every person who dares to question. Are you on DCPS payroll or what? Is it Nathaniel Beers? Kaya? Who?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Believe it or not, DCPS may have more pressimg concerns than releasing data that will allow you to obsess over every aspect of this process.

It's hardly obsessing to want to know if you should even bother using one of your lottery slots on a given school if there is pretty much zero chance you will ever get in.

I think you can pretty well figure that out based on the data already. Plus, very few people actually have more than 12 schools to put down anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Believe it or not, DCPS may have more pressimg concerns than releasing data that will allow you to obsess over every aspect of this process.

It's hardly obsessing to want to know if you should even bother using one of your lottery slots on a given school if there is pretty much zero chance you will ever get in.

And to add to that, to assess if you even have a chance of getting your own neighborhood school or if you will realistically need to make other plans if a significant number of IB kids are waitlisted.

I would love to know who the DCPS apologist is who comes on every single one of these threads and plays the whole "nothing to see here" routine. This data has been provided every year for at least the last decade. This data is important. This lottery is run by our elected government and should be accountable. The lottery allows for the claiming of various "preferences" which in itself creates an opportunity for abuse. DCPS has not formally announced why it has stopped releasing certain data, but has rather left residents to figure it out for themselves by reading minutes of a meeting. Where's the press release or announcement? But fine...someone on this board continues to pooh-pooh every person who dares to question. Are you on DCPS payroll or what? Is it Nathaniel Beers? Kaya? Who?

Ha, no, just a DCPS parent who thinks that people should chill a little. Yes, in this world of lotteries it's good for DCPS to provide the data. But we're nowhere near the next lottery, and we always have good enough data to make informed lottery choices. Not sure what additional data you think you need to engineer your perfect result. It's a school lottery with choices everyone pretty much understands already, not a Nate Silver op ed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Believe it or not, DCPS may have more pressimg concerns than releasing data that will allow you to obsess over every aspect of this process.

It's hardly obsessing to want to know if you should even bother using one of your lottery slots on a given school if there is pretty much zero chance you will ever get in.

I think you can pretty well figure that out based on the data already. Plus, very few people actually have more than 12 schools to put down anyway.

Not true x 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Believe it or not, DCPS may have more pressimg concerns than releasing data that will allow you to obsess over every aspect of this process.

It's hardly obsessing to want to know if you should even bother using one of your lottery slots on a given school if there is pretty much zero chance you will ever get in.

I think you can pretty well figure that out based on the data already. Plus, very few people actually have more than 12 schools to put down anyway.

Not true x 2

Right, so all of DCPS should cater to your insane maximizing? No. We already have plenty of data to understand our school choices. If you feel like you need more data to precisely rank your choices then that's your issue. Are you trying to tell me that everyone doesn't already understand that Inspired Teaching and CMI are very hard to get into? I've done the lottery twice now, and I've had absolutely no problem understanding my choices and options. What exactly more do you need?

If you have other concerns like doing research, or if you truly believe that there are compliance issues, sure, do a FOIA. But I just don't buy that people don't have the data they need to do their lottery entries.