Ukrainian victory over Russia is inevitable

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ukrainian special forces got all the way down to Melitopol to blow up the railway. That fortified and impenetrable landbridge is looking mighty...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russians-train-blown-melitopol-cutting-112201925.html

Ukrainian Special Forces didn’t do this train explosion. Ukrainian partisans did it. They may have had special forces support in terms of planning, but there is an extensive partisan network across Russian-occupied areas of Ukraine, which carries out operations without the participation of official Ukrainian military forces. (And even deep within Russia.)

These partisan forces will never stop working against Russia, even if some kind of settlement was forced on Ukraine which allowed Russia to retain part of Ukraine.

And one reason these partisans are so effective is that many of them are actually ethnic Russian Ukrainians who speak perfect, fluent Russian, have family in Russia and can travel even within Russia, plus they obviously know the ground in Ukraine better than the invaders. Even Russian Ukrainian citizens are horrified by the Russian administration of the occupied territories and the Russian style of conduct of war there.

Also, the Melitopol operation is a very good indication of the way in which the Ukrainians are conducting the war, which Westerners aren’t paying attention to. Westerners think the way to win is through some kind of big break through at the front which rapidly covers territory like what happened around Kherson and Kharkiv. That costs a lot of Ukrainian blood. Instead, the Ukrainians are using long range weaponry and partisan attackers to destroy all logistics support for Russian forces in Ukraine - blowing up ammo dumps, petrol reserves, airfields & aircraft, etc.

In fact, they have been very successful, recently forcing the entire Russian Black Sea Fleet to withdraw from the port of Sevastopol, Crimea after Ukraine blew up the HQ for the Black Sea Fleet and a couple of ships in dry dock there.

Because this isn’t what the West wants to see, the West thinks Ukraine is losing. It hasn’t won ……yet, but it’s definitely not losing.

Republicans have already cut and run on the Ukraine. The republicans have been working and pressuring NATO members to do the same. This is over. There will only be funding for Israel not the Ukraine. The other NATO members will pull funding very quickly. Finland made a big mistake joining NATO. Russia will take it revenge on them soon and Europe will sit around and watch. Republicans will cheer.

Russia is too weak to take on Finland
I know your like your horror stories but just no

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ukrainian special forces got all the way down to Melitopol to blow up the railway. That fortified and impenetrable landbridge is looking mighty...

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russians-train-blown-melitopol-cutting-112201925.html

Ukrainian Special Forces didn’t do this train explosion. Ukrainian partisans did it. They may have had special forces support in terms of planning, but there is an extensive partisan network across Russian-occupied areas of Ukraine, which carries out operations without the participation of official Ukrainian military forces. (And even deep within Russia.)

These partisan forces will never stop working against Russia, even if some kind of settlement was forced on Ukraine which allowed Russia to retain part of Ukraine.

And one reason these partisans are so effective is that many of them are actually ethnic Russian Ukrainians who speak perfect, fluent Russian, have family in Russia and can travel even within Russia, plus they obviously know the ground in Ukraine better than the invaders. Even Russian Ukrainian citizens are horrified by the Russian administration of the occupied territories and the Russian style of conduct of war there.

Also, the Melitopol operation is a very good indication of the way in which the Ukrainians are conducting the war, which Westerners aren’t paying attention to. Westerners think the way to win is through some kind of big break through at the front which rapidly covers territory like what happened around Kherson and Kharkiv. That costs a lot of Ukrainian blood. Instead, the Ukrainians are using long range weaponry and partisan attackers to destroy all logistics support for Russian forces in Ukraine - blowing up ammo dumps, petrol reserves, airfields & aircraft, etc.

In fact, they have been very successful, recently forcing the entire Russian Black Sea Fleet to withdraw from the port of Sevastopol, Crimea after Ukraine blew up the HQ for the Black Sea Fleet and a couple of ships in dry dock there.

Because this isn’t what the West wants to see, the West thinks Ukraine is losing. It hasn’t won ……yet, but it’s definitely not losing.

Now tell us how much you detest "Palestinian violence" in occupied territories and how it's not the same thing and completely different.

Haha right?
I am glad Ukrainians don’t kill babies but otherwise I am surprised they don’t have more sympathy for Palestine

[Anonymous]

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Sorry Ukraine, we've decided to distribute F-16s in alphabetical order. No hard feelings right?

Denmark has 43 F-16s (33 F-16A fighters and 10 two-seat B-model trainers).

19 Ukraine + 24 Argentina = 43.

And why is this a good deal for Denmark? Because they're getting F-35's. Dumba$$ can't do math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That’s it, folks.

A year and a half of Ukraine/Russia fighting, but the page count on this thread has been overtaken by Israel/Hamas less than ONE WEEK after the fighting started there.

We put up a valiant effort, but it’s time to admit defeat.

😂

So many wine moms believed in Z and Vindman

Even z and vindman care more about Israel deep down!

I guess you haven't heard the latest. I like surprises. Don't you like surprises? Stay tuned.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:https://www.axios.com/2023/10/13/hamas-israel-war-russia-un-security-council-ceasefire

Russia circulated a draft resolution calling for a ceasefire in Gaza to the members of the UN Security Council on Friday, according to a copy of the draft obtained by Axios.

Why it matters: The resolution, if passed, would likely be vetoed, but the Russian move is expected to put pressure on the Biden administration and could push more countries to call for a ceasefire.

Several Western countries have so far refrained from calling for an outright ceasefire, insisting instead that Israel has a right to defend itself after last Saturday's Hamas attack.
Driving the news: A diplomatic source told Axios the Russians circulated the draft resolution and asked member states to give their comments about it by Saturday at noon.

The draft resolution expresses grave concern over the escalation in violence and the deepening humanitarian crisis in Gaza and emphasizes that Israeli and Palestinian civilians must be protected.
The draft resolution calls "for an immediate, durable and fully respected humanitarian ceasefire."
The resolution "strongly condemns all violence and hostilities directed against civilians and all acts of terrorism" but doesn't mention Hamas and its attack against Israel.
The draft resolution also calls for the secure release of all hostages, the unimpeded provision and distribution of humanitarian assistance and for creating conditions for the safe evacuation of civilians in need.

That's genius. Israel will be sated pretty soon and will be ready to listen to calls for a cease fire. Not by Saturday but soon. And then everyone will congratulate Russia for being the first one to push for peace. Genius! Well played, Putin. You've still got some marbles left.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.axios.com/2023/10/13/hamas-israel-war-russia-un-security-council-ceasefire

Russia circulated a draft resolution calling for a ceasefire in Gaza to the members of the UN Security Council on Friday, according to a copy of the draft obtained by Axios.

Why it matters: The resolution, if passed, would likely be vetoed, but the Russian move is expected to put pressure on the Biden administration and could push more countries to call for a ceasefire.

Several Western countries have so far refrained from calling for an outright ceasefire, insisting instead that Israel has a right to defend itself after last Saturday's Hamas attack.
Driving the news: A diplomatic source told Axios the Russians circulated the draft resolution and asked member states to give their comments about it by Saturday at noon.

The draft resolution expresses grave concern over the escalation in violence and the deepening humanitarian crisis in Gaza and emphasizes that Israeli and Palestinian civilians must be protected.
The draft resolution calls "for an immediate, durable and fully respected humanitarian ceasefire."
The resolution "strongly condemns all violence and hostilities directed against civilians and all acts of terrorism" but doesn't mention Hamas and its attack against Israel.
The draft resolution also calls for the secure release of all hostages, the unimpeded provision and distribution of humanitarian assistance and for creating conditions for the safe evacuation of civilians in need.

That's genius. Israel will be sated pretty soon and will be ready to listen to calls for a cease fire. Not by Saturday but soon. And then everyone will congratulate Russia for being the first one to push for peace. Genius! Well played, Putin. You've still got some marbles left.

Um. Not sure why you think this is a 'genius' move. Putin isn't the touchy-feely type. My guess is Putin is only worried that the events aren't playing out the way he thought they would.

I think the Hamas attack serves as inspiration for youth in Chechnya, Azerbaijan, Belarus, etc.

I also think we're finally starting to see the realization within Russia that they went too far in Ukraine. Bakhmut and Prigozhin's mad dash was a turning point in the war from which there is no return.

Background of the man speaking - Alexander Sytin was banned from TV back in 2019 when he compared a fire in Odessa as the "most important cultural treasure of Europe", whereas the deaths of 42 civilians the "liquidation of human material of little value." He wasn't supposed to be on the air ever again after that, but apparently he got an invite?

[1:47 / 3:11]
Alexander Sytin: "They don't want anything else! They want to kill us! They want to burn Moscow down! People write me about it every day!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78SweNDier8

Listen to his voice crack. I think he's finally starting to understand that even if Russia 'wins', that Ukraine will be their own little 'Hamas' and turn Russia into it's own little living Hell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:https://www.axios.com/2023/10/13/hamas-israel-war-russia-un-security-council-ceasefire

Russia circulated a draft resolution calling for a ceasefire in Gaza to the members of the UN Security Council on Friday, according to a copy of the draft obtained by Axios.

Why it matters: The resolution, if passed, would likely be vetoed, but the Russian move is expected to put pressure on the Biden administration and could push more countries to call for a ceasefire.

Several Western countries have so far refrained from calling for an outright ceasefire, insisting instead that Israel has a right to defend itself after last Saturday's Hamas attack.
Driving the news: A diplomatic source told Axios the Russians circulated the draft resolution and asked member states to give their comments about it by Saturday at noon.

The draft resolution expresses grave concern over the escalation in violence and the deepening humanitarian crisis in Gaza and emphasizes that Israeli and Palestinian civilians must be protected.
The draft resolution calls "for an immediate, durable and fully respected humanitarian ceasefire."
The resolution "strongly condemns all violence and hostilities directed against civilians and all acts of terrorism" but doesn't mention Hamas and its attack against Israel.
The draft resolution also calls for the secure release of all hostages, the unimpeded provision and distribution of humanitarian assistance and for creating conditions for the safe evacuation of civilians in need.

That's genius. Israel will be sated pretty soon and will be ready to listen to calls for a cease fire. Not by Saturday but soon. And then everyone will congratulate Russia for being the first one to push for peace. Genius! Well played, Putin. You've still got some marbles left.

Since when does Israel jump to attention when the UN passes a resolution? Israel will agree to a cease fire when it's ready to agree to a cease fire, not when Putin or the UN demand they have a ceasefire.

And when is Putin held accountable for his role in the violence? There is a growing pile of evidence that..

Russia armed the Hamas terrorists and helped them prepare

Russia trained the Hamas terrorists.

And based on numerous posts on Russian telegram channels, may be fighting alongside Hamas, with pay for troops up to $650k roubles a month to help Hamas attack Israel.

[Anonymous]

Pretty incredible the Vindman brothers have volunteered to serve in the IDF.

After defending Ukraine, they will now defend Israel!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Pretty incredible the Vindman brothers have volunteered to serve in the IDF.

After defending Ukraine, they will now defend Israel!

They show the orange one what means real man!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Sorry Ukraine, we've decided to distribute F-16s in alphabetical order. No hard feelings right?

Denmark has 43 F-16s (33 F-16A fighters and 10 two-seat B-model trainers).

19 Ukraine + 24 Argentina = 43.

And why is this a good deal for Denmark? Because they're getting F-35's. Dumba$$ can't do math.

And when is Ukraine supposed to get those 19 F-16s? 2025. How much good will that do them in 2025? But Argentina gets theirs today. So why hold off 2 years for Ukraine but give Argentina theirs today? I guess Argentina has a more pressing need?

[Anonymous]

Denmark is taking its orders from Putin. Argentina/ what a joke.

[Anonymous]

Slava Vindman. Slava Zelensky.

Just don’t trust Klitschko.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Slava Vindman. Slava Zelensky.

Just don’t trust Klitschko.

😂 you pretty much are saying two Jews have ukraines interests at heart more than a real Ukrainian

Z and vibdman will be the destruction of Ukraine

[Anonymous]

Russians are conducting offensive actions across the entire front

I’ll bump this up in 6 months but UKR will have less controlled territory 6 months from now than at present. They’ll start to actively degrade their position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Russians are conducting offensive actions across the entire front

I’ll bump this up in 6 months but UKR will have less controlled territory 6 months from now than at present. They’ll start to actively degrade their position.

Russians are incapable of conducting offensive operations.