| I am curious if anyone else has started off liking him and considering voting for him last year, and ended up doing an 180 this year. I am left leaning independent, if that matters. He is basically in Trump territory for me now aka I change the channel when he is on. No, I am not trolling, just interested to see if this a common trend. |
I mute the sound when Hillary is on ........... |
Did you read the title of the thread or is it just a reflex for you now to bash Hillary? |
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I used to describe myself as the "Bernie Sanders wing of the Democratic Party." I actively work (like, for a job) on issues of income inequality and economic justice. I am the most natural Sanders voter out there, but have come to really dislike him over the course of this election.
It's not really Sanders himself, but I cannot deal with the other people in his camp and the way he has allowed them to run amok. |
I agree with Sanders on many issues. I agree with him more than Hillary. I give a monthly donation to Sanders. I am thoroughly sick of the Bernie Bros, though, and I am getting sick of him. He needs to reign in his rhetoric against Clinton. She is going to be the nominee. He doesn't serve the party at all by trying to take her down now. |
All I said is that I mute the sound ............ |
| My evolution on Sanders is that the more I know about him, the more I like him. When I listen to his old speeches in Congress over the years, I am very moved that a man this consistent and ethical exists and has gotten so far in government advocating for the things I believe are right. It is very moving to me to see him fighting so hard. I knew little about him before this race. I find it very sad that people would rather have someone as corrupt as Clinton running our country but that is the way it has been for a very long time and I should not have expected anything else. |
The fact that both you and pp felt the need to bring Clinton into a post about Sanders, only reinforces my stance so far. Because all he does lately too is bash her |
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I switched my vote to Hillary last minute in Maryland, when Bernie started hinting at a contested convention and all that. I need a unified Democratic party this election, because the stakes are so high. And I realized he does not necessarily have any loyalty to the Democratic party since he's been independent so long, even though all our views on the issues are much more in sync than with Republicans.
Hillary isn't corrupt. The right wing folks have been trying for decades to find something, and they've found nothing. But the more they repeat their speculations about her, the more people believe "something" must not be right. Hillary is just plain too conservative for me in general. She's a 70s style moderate Republican. So yes, I align with Bernie, but I need a sane person in office in 2017. And that means beating anything the GOP throws up. |
Things don't happen in a vacuum; Sanders caught on with me - and probably others - partly because Clinton is totally beholden to corporate interests. Sanders is not! |
She is not the topic of conversation. |
The topic is the evolution on Sanders. Mine was an almost direct function of how I felt about Clinton. Very relevant to the topic. |
| This happened to me. I started out thinking I like this guy and wish he was electable and now I just think "God GO AWAY." |
Lol, no. Read the OP. Hope that will clear up the confusion |
For me as well. As I learned more about the two candidates, the contrast between the two has been a big part of my evolution. You really can't talk about one without saying what the problem is with the other. |