I’m getting nervous about school because of delta

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Anonymous wrote:This is another school district in Virginia. They have a mask mandate. Parents are concerned at how the school district is communicating positive cases in the schools. They have a 50% of their population fully vaccinated, slightly below Fairfax County’s 55% fully vaccinated.

https://www.wtvr.com/news/local-news/as-covid-cases-rise-hopewell-parents-concerned-for-safety-of-students

What I don't understand about these kind of stories is...what do they expect? Take the MS/HS grades for now because they can get vaccinated. Viruses spread, waves will come and go, right now is a proxy for years out into the future. This is a new reality of being a human on this planet.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank god for SB 1303, because all of you distance learning nutters are insane. Keep your kids locked in the basement and home school. My kids need school.

I don’t think anyone wants DL. They just want information on how things will be handled if wide swathes of the school population become sick .

This! Hope for the best and plan for the worst. Everyone but psychopaths wants this to work. But if it doesn’t? Then what? FCPS being so awesome at reacting to unforeseen circumstances (/s).

So you're asking them to plan for unforeseen circumstances? Alien abduction? Meteor hitting a school? Pretty sure they can only plan for the foreseen circumstances.

Guess you never heard of “emergency planning.” I hope you aren’t responsible for young children.

+1 I had my oldest just after 9/11. My office and his daycare were not near my house. I had a plastic tub with a couple changes of clothes, blankets, extra diapers and wipes, powdered formula, sterile water, clean bottles, walking shoes, a baby bjorn and an emergency backpack in my trunk his first year. I mean, do you want to be stuck on the other side of the Bridge with an infant? 18 year later, I keep two days worth of my medication in my purse.

If aliens abducted us, at least I could keep my kid fed and clean for a couple of days.

Sh*t happen. Large organizations are supposed to have contingency plans.

The contingency plan is to go back to virtual. Any adult who has lived in FCPS during a pandemic knows that's the plan, even if they're not telling us. Prepare for that!

What the contingency plan for a teacher? An upper level student?

If a teachers get COVID or needs to quarantine? They get a sub.

Teachers should be vaccinated and vaccinated people don’t need to quarantine.

Have you read the news the past week? Delta is a whole different ball game.

Well in Virginia, according to the VDH 99.24% of COVID cases are in people not fully vaccinated. So it’s not that different of a ball game, it’s just that people are reading too much into misleading headlines.

If you move the date range to something more reasonable such as mid-May to current, it drops to about 97%. The creative use of counting from Jan 21 (website default) is more than a bit misleading when that represents the earliest anyone could have been fully vaccinated and not even 1% of people were fully vaccinated by then. The middle of May is a much more accurate reflection because early to mid April is when vaccines became more widely available.

The vaccine is still worth getting. However after knowing 3 fully vaccinated people catch covid within the past 2 weeks, including 1 who passed it on to a friend, people need to realize the vaccine isn't some perfect shield that will prevent you from catching or passing on the virus. Mask up indoors when you can and get tested even if you have mild symptoms. Also for the "kids don't catch and spread it" crowd, my cousin's 5yo just brought it home from daycare and passed it on to the family. The parents weren't vaccinated, so I have no clue if the kids were wearing masks at daycare.

I’m going to preface this by stating this is not a challenge, but rather a genuine question. How sick did the vaccinated become after contracting Covid?

I'm the PP you asked. None were serious. 2 were only tested due to known exposure. The other had mild symptoms (stuffy nose and sore throat) but got tested out of caution.

To PP who also responded and mentioned a family member dying, sorry for your loss.

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Anonymous wrote:Thank god for SB 1303, because all of you distance learning nutters are insane. Keep your kids locked in the basement and home school. My kids need school.

I don’t think anyone wants DL. They just want information on how things will be handled if wide swathes of the school population become sick .

This! Hope for the best and plan for the worst. Everyone but psychopaths wants this to work. But if it doesn’t? Then what? FCPS being so awesome at reacting to unforeseen circumstances (/s).

So you're asking them to plan for unforeseen circumstances? Alien abduction? Meteor hitting a school? Pretty sure they can only plan for the foreseen circumstances.

Guess you never heard of “emergency planning.” I hope you aren’t responsible for young children.

+1 I had my oldest just after 9/11. My office and his daycare were not near my house. I had a plastic tub with a couple changes of clothes, blankets, extra diapers and wipes, powdered formula, sterile water, clean bottles, walking shoes, a baby bjorn and an emergency backpack in my trunk his first year. I mean, do you want to be stuck on the other side of the Bridge with an infant? 18 year later, I keep two days worth of my medication in my purse.

If aliens abducted us, at least I could keep my kid fed and clean for a couple of days.

Sh*t happen. Large organizations are supposed to have contingency plans.

The contingency plan is to go back to virtual. Any adult who has lived in FCPS during a pandemic knows that's the plan, even if they're not telling us. Prepare for that!

What the contingency plan for a teacher? An upper level student?

If a teachers get COVID or needs to quarantine? They get a sub.

Teachers should be vaccinated and vaccinated people don’t need to quarantine.

Have you read the news the past week? Delta is a whole different ball game.

Well in Virginia, according to the VDH 99.24% of COVID cases are in people not fully vaccinated. So it’s not that different of a ball game, it’s just that people are reading too much into misleading headlines.

If you move the date range to something more reasonable such as mid-May to current, it drops to about 97%. The creative use of counting from Jan 21 (website default) is more than a bit misleading when that represents the earliest anyone could have been fully vaccinated and not even 1% of people were fully vaccinated by then. The middle of May is a much more accurate reflection because early to mid April is when vaccines became more widely available.

The vaccine is still worth getting. However after knowing 3 fully vaccinated people catch covid within the past 2 weeks, including 1 who passed it on to a friend, people need to realize the vaccine isn't some perfect shield that will prevent you from catching or passing on the virus. Mask up indoors when you can and get tested even if you have mild symptoms. Also for the "kids don't catch and spread it" crowd, my cousin's 5yo just brought it home from daycare and passed it on to the family. The parents weren't vaccinated, so I have no clue if the kids were wearing masks at daycare.

I’m going to preface this by stating this is not a challenge, but rather a genuine question. How sick did the vaccinated become after contracting Covid?

My fully-vaxxed family member died yesterday from covid. The illness is typically less severe with vaccinated, but not always.

Well sure, it’s possible. I’m wondering about the cases the PP mentioned.

It’s interesting to me that the PP knows 3 people who have caught Covid in the past 2 weeks. My DW and I were just saying between the two of us we can count on one hand the number of people we know of (acquaintances) who have tested positive in the past 16 months.

You are lucky then. I do suspect you know more people who've had covid, but just didn't tell you. I have a lot of family and friends in Texas.

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Anonymous wrote:Also for the "kids don't catch and spread it" crowd, my cousin's 5yo just brought it home from daycare and passed it on to the family. The parents weren't vaccinated, so I have no clue if the kids were wearing masks at daycare.

How do you know the spread wasn't the other way around?

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Anonymous wrote:Also for the "kids don't catch and spread it" crowd, my cousin's 5yo just brought it home from daycare and passed it on to the family. The parents weren't vaccinated, so I have no clue if the kids were wearing masks at daycare.

How do you know the spread wasn't the other way around?

Right? With unvaccinated parents?!

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Mass school district is doing pool testing and spacing kids three feet apart.

https://www.wwlp.com/news/health/coronavirus-local-impact/mayor-sarno-provides-covid-19-update/

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Anonymous wrote:Thank god for SB 1303, because all of you distance learning nutters are insane. Keep your kids locked in the basement and home school. My kids need school.

I don’t think anyone wants DL. They just want information on how things will be handled if wide swathes of the school population become sick .

This! Hope for the best and plan for the worst. Everyone but psychopaths wants this to work. But if it doesn’t? Then what? FCPS being so awesome at reacting to unforeseen circumstances (/s).

So you're asking them to plan for unforeseen circumstances? Alien abduction? Meteor hitting a school? Pretty sure they can only plan for the foreseen circumstances.

Guess you never heard of “emergency planning.” I hope you aren’t responsible for young children.

+1 I had my oldest just after 9/11. My office and his daycare were not near my house. I had a plastic tub with a couple changes of clothes, blankets, extra diapers and wipes, powdered formula, sterile water, clean bottles, walking shoes, a baby bjorn and an emergency backpack in my trunk his first year. I mean, do you want to be stuck on the other side of the Bridge with an infant? 18 year later, I keep two days worth of my medication in my purse.

If aliens abducted us, at least I could keep my kid fed and clean for a couple of days.

Sh*t happen. Large organizations are supposed to have contingency plans.

The contingency plan is to go back to virtual. Any adult who has lived in FCPS during a pandemic knows that's the plan, even if they're not telling us. Prepare for that!

What the contingency plan for a teacher? An upper level student?

If a teachers get COVID or needs to quarantine? They get a sub.

Teachers should be vaccinated and vaccinated people don’t need to quarantine.

Have you read the news the past week? Delta is a whole different ball game.

Well in Virginia, according to the VDH 99.24% of COVID cases are in people not fully vaccinated. So it’s not that different of a ball game, it’s just that people are reading too much into misleading headlines.

If you move the date range to something more reasonable such as mid-May to current, it drops to about 97%. The creative use of counting from Jan 21 (website default) is more than a bit misleading when that represents the earliest anyone could have been fully vaccinated and not even 1% of people were fully vaccinated by then. The middle of May is a much more accurate reflection because early to mid April is when vaccines became more widely available.

The vaccine is still worth getting. However after knowing 3 fully vaccinated people catch covid within the past 2 weeks, including 1 who passed it on to a friend, people need to realize the vaccine isn't some perfect shield that will prevent you from catching or passing on the virus. Mask up indoors when you can and get tested even if you have mild symptoms. Also for the "kids don't catch and spread it" crowd, my cousin's 5yo just brought it home from daycare and passed it on to the family. The parents weren't vaccinated, so I have no clue if the kids were wearing masks at daycare.

I’m going to preface this by stating this is not a challenge, but rather a genuine question. How sick did the vaccinated become after contracting Covid?

My fully-vaxxed family member died yesterday from covid. The illness is typically less severe with vaccinated, but not always.

Well sure, it’s possible. I’m wondering about the cases the PP mentioned.

It’s interesting to me that the PP knows 3 people who have caught Covid in the past 2 weeks. My DW and I were just saying between the two of us we can count on one hand the number of people we know of (acquaintances) who have tested positive in the past 16 months.

You are lucky then. I do suspect you know more people who've had covid, but just didn't tell you. I have a lot of family and friends in Texas.

Perhaps. That’s why I wrote “that I know of”. Still, we both know a lot of people through our jobs with FCPS and volunteering in the community.

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This is why I’m keeping my 11 year old child home until she is fully vaccinated. We didn’t go through everything since March of 2020 to only have her get COVID (and possible long term effects) only months before a vaccine.

Ya’ll can send your kids if you really want. Go for it. MY kid’s long term health is not worth the risk and we have enough money to make it work. She’ll walk into school when she is two weeks post her 2nd shot.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-31/what-the-delta-variant-development-means-for-unvaccinated-kids

Swann recently published a report that found that in a worst-case scenario, without masking in schools, an additional 70% of children could be infected with the coronavirus within three months. Her research also shows that even if masking is required in all schools, if there are no other mitigation strategies, she still expects 40% of elementary school students to be infected within three months.

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I still think FCPS should require neg test for all staff and students 72 hours prior to the first day. To me this is a no brainer.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why I’m keeping my 11 year old child home until she is fully vaccinated. We didn’t go through everything since March of 2020 to only have her get COVID (and possible long term effects) only months before a vaccine.

Ya’ll can send your kids if you really want. Go for it. MY kid’s long term health is not worth the risk and we have enough money to make it work. She’ll walk into school when she is two weeks post her 2nd shot.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-31/what-the-delta-variant-development-means-for-unvaccinated-kids

Swann recently published a report that found that in a worst-case scenario, without masking in schools, an additional 70% of children could be infected with the coronavirus within three months. Her research also shows that even if masking is required in all schools, if there are no other mitigation strategies, she still expects 40% of elementary school students to be infected within three months.

What if somebody doesn’t have enough money to make it work? Do you just taunt them?

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Anonymous wrote:This is why I’m keeping my 11 year old child home until she is fully vaccinated. We didn’t go through everything since March of 2020 to only have her get COVID (and possible long term effects) only months before a vaccine.

Ya’ll can send your kids if you really want. Go for it. MY kid’s long term health is not worth the risk and we have enough money to make it work. She’ll walk into school when she is two weeks post her 2nd shot.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-31/what-the-delta-variant-development-means-for-unvaccinated-kids

Swann recently published a report that found that in a worst-case scenario, without masking in schools, an additional 70% of children could be infected with the coronavirus within three months. Her research also shows that even if masking is required in all schools, if there are no other mitigation strategies, she still expects 40% of elementary school students to be infected within three months.

Assuming 40% is actually possible, this is also why school systems need to have robust plans for notification/testing. Unless you all are fine making public school ES students sitting ducks.

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I wonder if the school board members are sending their ES kids?

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Anonymous wrote:This is why I’m keeping my 11 year old child home until she is fully vaccinated. We didn’t go through everything since March of 2020 to only have her get COVID (and possible long term effects) only months before a vaccine.

Ya’ll can send your kids if you really want. Go for it. MY kid’s long term health is not worth the risk and we have enough money to make it work. She’ll walk into school when she is two weeks post her 2nd shot.

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2021-07-31/what-the-delta-variant-development-means-for-unvaccinated-kids

Swann recently published a report that found that in a worst-case scenario, without masking in schools, an additional 70% of children could be infected with the coronavirus within three months. Her research also shows that even if masking is required in all schools, if there are no other mitigation strategies, she still expects 40% of elementary school students to be infected within three months.

Assuming 40% is actually possible, this is also why school systems need to have robust plans for notification/testing. Unless you all are fine making public school ES students sitting ducks.

The Kleenex company also needs to get ready.

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Anonymous wrote:I still think FCPS should require neg test for all staff and students 72 hours prior to the first day. To me this is a no brainer.

They should test Thursday and give up their last day of prep and their final weekend of summer?

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Anonymous wrote:I still think FCPS should require neg test for all staff and students 72 hours prior to the first day. To me this is a no brainer.

They should test Thursday and give up their last day of prep and their final weekend of summer?

Teacher here. It does not take long to get tested. Not really sure what you mean by give up prep and final weekend.