[Bethesda cyclist] Do you know this man?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:He grabbed the girl. That's assault. The ramming of the bike against the other kid is assault. Anthony Brennan III (can we dub him "Tony Three Sticks" to make this a little more fun?) is in trouble with the power system he so righteously defended.

Separate question: what are the chances he's a Trump supporter?


Tony three sticks! That’s his street name.

I hope he truly gets help for his obvious anger management issues. I don’t hold out hope that he won’t vote for trump again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's no way this guy hasn't been ID'd by now. Someone is protecting him and they should know better at this point because it won't end well for to protectors either.


Not really. The problem is that there are several white males that fit the profile and the photo. The police have been investigating and have ruled out several suspects. You can see details of some of the individuals who were interviewed and cleared.

They have another strong suspect currently being investigated.

https://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/biker-who-attacked-students-may-have-been-identified-police-say

The problem is that even when there is a good suspect, the police still have to investigate the person and make sure they have a case against the person.


Um, there is a video.


DP. They need to make sure they have the right person. They need to try to gather other evidence about what happened before the video and also what happened at the end of the video and after.

If they can’t get other evidence tying the suspect to the bike (Strava, other pics of him with the bike, etc), it won’t be as much of a slam dunk case as you think.

In fact, the Twitter vigilantes who identified other bikers who looked like the perpetrator have handed the real person an opportunity to create reasonable doubt.


I’m not a criminal lawyer but I’m pretty sure from watching the Brady Bunch that you can’t use random people’s twitter posts as a defense.


And I am sure from law school and a lengthy legal career that the identification of other suspects is helpful to the defense. If raised by the defense, the prosecutors will have to explain why those people were excluded. Depending on how airtight the case is that it couldn’t have been that person, you may have enough to create reasonable doubt. You only need one juror to not buy into the case.


Again, I’m not a criminal lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that any of the Twitter suspects will be easily ruled out because they won’t have the distinctive body type of the attacker. (Sorry, alleged attacker.)


They were similar enough to have people convinced they were the right person. They were close enough that the cops interviewed them. Exactly how much they will help will depend on a number of things, but it is helpful for the defense to have something to point to, especially in a case where there is video - so it will focus less on what happened and more on is it the right person.


Read carefully. The people on Twitter only saw the 2 alleged suspects faces. They did not see their bodies. The cyclist had a very distinctive body. Why do you think the first guy was cleared so quickly. I can’t continue discussing this because it’s making me more dumb.


No, dumb was you repeatedly pointing out that you were not a lawyer and then repeatedly commenting on how things would play out in a criminal trial.


Hmm, now what have you got to say? Where is his criminal defense lawyer arguing about all of the other suspects?


I would say he made a very poor strategic decision to admit guilt right away. This is not a case where an apology is going to make it go away. If he had let the process play out more, which doesn’t necessarily mean take it to trial (very little actually goes to trial), he probably would have fairer better.


Hows it going to be worse? He should get some kind of diversion program. He’s been named and shamed and apologized. What more could be given to him?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's no way this guy hasn't been ID'd by now. Someone is protecting him and they should know better at this point because it won't end well for to protectors either.


Not really. The problem is that there are several white males that fit the profile and the photo. The police have been investigating and have ruled out several suspects. You can see details of some of the individuals who were interviewed and cleared.

They have another strong suspect currently being investigated.

https://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/biker-who-attacked-students-may-have-been-identified-police-say

The problem is that even when there is a good suspect, the police still have to investigate the person and make sure they have a case against the person.


Um, there is a video.


DP. They need to make sure they have the right person. They need to try to gather other evidence about what happened before the video and also what happened at the end of the video and after.

If they can’t get other evidence tying the suspect to the bike (Strava, other pics of him with the bike, etc), it won’t be as much of a slam dunk case as you think.

In fact, the Twitter vigilantes who identified other bikers who looked like the perpetrator have handed the real person an opportunity to create reasonable doubt.


I’m not a criminal lawyer but I’m pretty sure from watching the Brady Bunch that you can’t use random people’s twitter posts as a defense.


And I am sure from law school and a lengthy legal career that the identification of other suspects is helpful to the defense. If raised by the defense, the prosecutors will have to explain why those people were excluded. Depending on how airtight the case is that it couldn’t have been that person, you may have enough to create reasonable doubt. You only need one juror to not buy into the case.


Again, I’m not a criminal lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that any of the Twitter suspects will be easily ruled out because they won’t have the distinctive body type of the attacker. (Sorry, alleged attacker.)


They were similar enough to have people convinced they were the right person. They were close enough that the cops interviewed them. Exactly how much they will help will depend on a number of things, but it is helpful for the defense to have something to point to, especially in a case where there is video - so it will focus less on what happened and more on is it the right person.


Read carefully. The people on Twitter only saw the 2 alleged suspects faces. They did not see their bodies. The cyclist had a very distinctive body. Why do you think the first guy was cleared so quickly. I can’t continue discussing this because it’s making me more dumb.


No, dumb was you repeatedly pointing out that you were not a lawyer and then repeatedly commenting on how things would play out in a criminal trial.


Hmm, now what have you got to say? Where is his criminal defense lawyer arguing about all of the other suspects?


I would say he made a very poor strategic decision to admit guilt right away. This is not a case where an apology is going to make it go away. If he had let the process play out more, which doesn’t necessarily mean take it to trial (very little actually goes to trial), he probably would have fairer better.


Hows it going to be worse? He should get some kind of diversion program. He’s been named and shamed and apologized. What more could be given to him?


That presupposes he gets a diversion program. We shall see.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's no way this guy hasn't been ID'd by now. Someone is protecting him and they should know better at this point because it won't end well for to protectors either.


Not really. The problem is that there are several white males that fit the profile and the photo. The police have been investigating and have ruled out several suspects. You can see details of some of the individuals who were interviewed and cleared.

They have another strong suspect currently being investigated.

https://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/biker-who-attacked-students-may-have-been-identified-police-say

The problem is that even when there is a good suspect, the police still have to investigate the person and make sure they have a case against the person.


Um, there is a video.


DP. They need to make sure they have the right person. They need to try to gather other evidence about what happened before the video and also what happened at the end of the video and after.

If they can’t get other evidence tying the suspect to the bike (Strava, other pics of him with the bike, etc), it won’t be as much of a slam dunk case as you think.

In fact, the Twitter vigilantes who identified other bikers who looked like the perpetrator have handed the real person an opportunity to create reasonable doubt.


I’m not a criminal lawyer but I’m pretty sure from watching the Brady Bunch that you can’t use random people’s twitter posts as a defense.


And I am sure from law school and a lengthy legal career that the identification of other suspects is helpful to the defense. If raised by the defense, the prosecutors will have to explain why those people were excluded. Depending on how airtight the case is that it couldn’t have been that person, you may have enough to create reasonable doubt. You only need one juror to not buy into the case.


Again, I’m not a criminal lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that any of the Twitter suspects will be easily ruled out because they won’t have the distinctive body type of the attacker. (Sorry, alleged attacker.)


They were similar enough to have people convinced they were the right person. They were close enough that the cops interviewed them. Exactly how much they will help will depend on a number of things, but it is helpful for the defense to have something to point to, especially in a case where there is video - so it will focus less on what happened and more on is it the right person.


Read carefully. The people on Twitter only saw the 2 alleged suspects faces. They did not see their bodies. The cyclist had a very distinctive body. Why do you think the first guy was cleared so quickly. I can’t continue discussing this because it’s making me more dumb.


No, dumb was you repeatedly pointing out that you were not a lawyer and then repeatedly commenting on how things would play out in a criminal trial.


Hmm, now what have you got to say? Where is his criminal defense lawyer arguing about all of the other suspects?


I would say he made a very poor strategic decision to admit guilt right away. This is not a case where an apology is going to make it go away. If he had let the process play out more, which doesn’t necessarily mean take it to trial (very little actually goes to trial), he probably would have fairer better.


I disagree. Full apology is best way to stop the news cycle and let things simmer down. Then he can plead out like any other normal case, serve a short sentence in the county jail and pick up the pieces and move on, hopefully as a better man.

Right now everyone's like "OMG NEXT HITLER NEEDS JAIL FOR LIFE" and in two weeks the news cycle will be on to other things and the justice system can process this case like any other simple, non-serious assault, of which there are thousands every year unfortunately.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's no way this guy hasn't been ID'd by now. Someone is protecting him and they should know better at this point because it won't end well for to protectors either.


Not really. The problem is that there are several white males that fit the profile and the photo. The police have been investigating and have ruled out several suspects. You can see details of some of the individuals who were interviewed and cleared.

They have another strong suspect currently being investigated.

https://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/biker-who-attacked-students-may-have-been-identified-police-say

The problem is that even when there is a good suspect, the police still have to investigate the person and make sure they have a case against the person.


Um, there is a video.


DP. They need to make sure they have the right person. They need to try to gather other evidence about what happened before the video and also what happened at the end of the video and after.

If they can’t get other evidence tying the suspect to the bike (Strava, other pics of him with the bike, etc), it won’t be as much of a slam dunk case as you think.

In fact, the Twitter vigilantes who identified other bikers who looked like the perpetrator have handed the real person an opportunity to create reasonable doubt.


I’m not a criminal lawyer but I’m pretty sure from watching the Brady Bunch that you can’t use random people’s twitter posts as a defense.


And I am sure from law school and a lengthy legal career that the identification of other suspects is helpful to the defense. If raised by the defense, the prosecutors will have to explain why those people were excluded. Depending on how airtight the case is that it couldn’t have been that person, you may have enough to create reasonable doubt. You only need one juror to not buy into the case.


Again, I’m not a criminal lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that any of the Twitter suspects will be easily ruled out because they won’t have the distinctive body type of the attacker. (Sorry, alleged attacker.)


They were similar enough to have people convinced they were the right person. They were close enough that the cops interviewed them. Exactly how much they will help will depend on a number of things, but it is helpful for the defense to have something to point to, especially in a case where there is video - so it will focus less on what happened and more on is it the right person.


Read carefully. The people on Twitter only saw the 2 alleged suspects faces. They did not see their bodies. The cyclist had a very distinctive body. Why do you think the first guy was cleared so quickly. I can’t continue discussing this because it’s making me more dumb.


No, dumb was you repeatedly pointing out that you were not a lawyer and then repeatedly commenting on how things would play out in a criminal trial.


Hmm, now what have you got to say? Where is his criminal defense lawyer arguing about all of the other suspects?


I would say he made a very poor strategic decision to admit guilt right away. This is not a case where an apology is going to make it go away. If he had let the process play out more, which doesn’t necessarily mean take it to trial (very little actually goes to trial), he probably would have fairer better.


They removed evidence from his home, likely the bike, the clothing he was wearing, his phone which he used to film the kids allegedly, GPS, and the helmet. The other guys were interviewed, don't have those things, likely have proof about where they were at the time of the assault (likely on their phones too), and actually don't look much like him anyway.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's no way this guy hasn't been ID'd by now. Someone is protecting him and they should know better at this point because it won't end well for to protectors either.


Not really. The problem is that there are several white males that fit the profile and the photo. The police have been investigating and have ruled out several suspects. You can see details of some of the individuals who were interviewed and cleared.

They have another strong suspect currently being investigated.

https://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/biker-who-attacked-students-may-have-been-identified-police-say

The problem is that even when there is a good suspect, the police still have to investigate the person and make sure they have a case against the person.


Um, there is a video.


DP. They need to make sure they have the right person. They need to try to gather other evidence about what happened before the video and also what happened at the end of the video and after.

If they can’t get other evidence tying the suspect to the bike (Strava, other pics of him with the bike, etc), it won’t be as much of a slam dunk case as you think.

In fact, the Twitter vigilantes who identified other bikers who looked like the perpetrator have handed the real person an opportunity to create reasonable doubt.


I’m not a criminal lawyer but I’m pretty sure from watching the Brady Bunch that you can’t use random people’s twitter posts as a defense.


And I am sure from law school and a lengthy legal career that the identification of other suspects is helpful to the defense. If raised by the defense, the prosecutors will have to explain why those people were excluded. Depending on how airtight the case is that it couldn’t have been that person, you may have enough to create reasonable doubt. You only need one juror to not buy into the case.


Again, I’m not a criminal lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that any of the Twitter suspects will be easily ruled out because they won’t have the distinctive body type of the attacker. (Sorry, alleged attacker.)


They were similar enough to have people convinced they were the right person. They were close enough that the cops interviewed them. Exactly how much they will help will depend on a number of things, but it is helpful for the defense to have something to point to, especially in a case where there is video - so it will focus less on what happened and more on is it the right person.


Read carefully. The people on Twitter only saw the 2 alleged suspects faces. They did not see their bodies. The cyclist had a very distinctive body. Why do you think the first guy was cleared so quickly. I can’t continue discussing this because it’s making me more dumb.


No, dumb was you repeatedly pointing out that you were not a lawyer and then repeatedly commenting on how things would play out in a criminal trial.


Hmm, now what have you got to say? Where is his criminal defense lawyer arguing about all of the other suspects?


I would say he made a very poor strategic decision to admit guilt right away. This is not a case where an apology is going to make it go away. If he had let the process play out more, which doesn’t necessarily mean take it to trial (very little actually goes to trial), he probably would have fairer better.


Hows it going to be worse? He should get some kind of diversion program. He’s been named and shamed and apologized. What more could be given to him?


That presupposes he gets a diversion program. We shall see.


I’ve never seen any first offense (if this is) like this not. So if he doesn’t get a pretrial disposition then it’s totally political. This was bad but not that bad. And unlikely to be repeated again.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's no way this guy hasn't been ID'd by now. Someone is protecting him and they should know better at this point because it won't end well for to protectors either.


Not really. The problem is that there are several white males that fit the profile and the photo. The police have been investigating and have ruled out several suspects. You can see details of some of the individuals who were interviewed and cleared.

They have another strong suspect currently being investigated.

https://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/biker-who-attacked-students-may-have-been-identified-police-say

The problem is that even when there is a good suspect, the police still have to investigate the person and make sure they have a case against the person.


Um, there is a video.


DP. They need to make sure they have the right person. They need to try to gather other evidence about what happened before the video and also what happened at the end of the video and after.

If they can’t get other evidence tying the suspect to the bike (Strava, other pics of him with the bike, etc), it won’t be as much of a slam dunk case as you think.

In fact, the Twitter vigilantes who identified other bikers who looked like the perpetrator have handed the real person an opportunity to create reasonable doubt.


I’m not a criminal lawyer but I’m pretty sure from watching the Brady Bunch that you can’t use random people’s twitter posts as a defense.


And I am sure from law school and a lengthy legal career that the identification of other suspects is helpful to the defense. If raised by the defense, the prosecutors will have to explain why those people were excluded. Depending on how airtight the case is that it couldn’t have been that person, you may have enough to create reasonable doubt. You only need one juror to not buy into the case.


Again, I’m not a criminal lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that any of the Twitter suspects will be easily ruled out because they won’t have the distinctive body type of the attacker. (Sorry, alleged attacker.)


They were similar enough to have people convinced they were the right person. They were close enough that the cops interviewed them. Exactly how much they will help will depend on a number of things, but it is helpful for the defense to have something to point to, especially in a case where there is video - so it will focus less on what happened and more on is it the right person.


Read carefully. The people on Twitter only saw the 2 alleged suspects faces. They did not see their bodies. The cyclist had a very distinctive body. Why do you think the first guy was cleared so quickly. I can’t continue discussing this because it’s making me more dumb.


No, dumb was you repeatedly pointing out that you were not a lawyer and then repeatedly commenting on how things would play out in a criminal trial.


Hmm, now what have you got to say? Where is his criminal defense lawyer arguing about all of the other suspects?


I would say he made a very poor strategic decision to admit guilt right away. This is not a case where an apology is going to make it go away. If he had let the process play out more, which doesn’t necessarily mean take it to trial (very little actually goes to trial), he probably would have fairer better.


Hows it going to be worse? He should get some kind of diversion program. He’s been named and shamed and apologized. What more could be given to him?


That presupposes he gets a diversion program. We shall see.


I’ve never seen any first offense (if this is) like this not. So if he doesn’t get a pretrial disposition then it’s totally political. This was bad but not that bad. And unlikely to be repeated again.


I agree. I just don’t have confidence it won’t become political.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's no way this guy hasn't been ID'd by now. Someone is protecting him and they should know better at this point because it won't end well for to protectors either.


Not really. The problem is that there are several white males that fit the profile and the photo. The police have been investigating and have ruled out several suspects. You can see details of some of the individuals who were interviewed and cleared.

They have another strong suspect currently being investigated.

https://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/biker-who-attacked-students-may-have-been-identified-police-say

The problem is that even when there is a good suspect, the police still have to investigate the person and make sure they have a case against the person.


Um, there is a video.


DP. They need to make sure they have the right person. They need to try to gather other evidence about what happened before the video and also what happened at the end of the video and after.

If they can’t get other evidence tying the suspect to the bike (Strava, other pics of him with the bike, etc), it won’t be as much of a slam dunk case as you think.

In fact, the Twitter vigilantes who identified other bikers who looked like the perpetrator have handed the real person an opportunity to create reasonable doubt.


I’m not a criminal lawyer but I’m pretty sure from watching the Brady Bunch that you can’t use random people’s twitter posts as a defense.


And I am sure from law school and a lengthy legal career that the identification of other suspects is helpful to the defense. If raised by the defense, the prosecutors will have to explain why those people were excluded. Depending on how airtight the case is that it couldn’t have been that person, you may have enough to create reasonable doubt. You only need one juror to not buy into the case.


Again, I’m not a criminal lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that any of the Twitter suspects will be easily ruled out because they won’t have the distinctive body type of the attacker. (Sorry, alleged attacker.)


They were similar enough to have people convinced they were the right person. They were close enough that the cops interviewed them. Exactly how much they will help will depend on a number of things, but it is helpful for the defense to have something to point to, especially in a case where there is video - so it will focus less on what happened and more on is it the right person.


Read carefully. The people on Twitter only saw the 2 alleged suspects faces. They did not see their bodies. The cyclist had a very distinctive body. Why do you think the first guy was cleared so quickly. I can’t continue discussing this because it’s making me more dumb.


No, dumb was you repeatedly pointing out that you were not a lawyer and then repeatedly commenting on how things would play out in a criminal trial.


Hmm, now what have you got to say? Where is his criminal defense lawyer arguing about all of the other suspects?


I would say he made a very poor strategic decision to admit guilt right away. This is not a case where an apology is going to make it go away. If he had let the process play out more, which doesn’t necessarily mean take it to trial (very little actually goes to trial), he probably would have fairer better.


They removed evidence from his home, likely the bike, the clothing he was wearing, his phone which he used to film the kids allegedly, GPS, and the helmet. The other guys were interviewed, don't have those things, likely have proof about where they were at the time of the assault (likely on their phones too), and actually don't look much like him anyway.


Even if he wouldn’t have been able to sow some doubt (which doesn’t require a lot) by pointing to other suspects, he gains very little by admitting guilt immediately, unless there is already a deal in place.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He grabbed the girl. That's assault. The ramming of the bike against the other kid is assault. Anthony Brennan III (can we dub him "Tony Three Sticks" to make this a little more fun?) is in trouble with the power system he so righteously defended.

Separate question: what are the chances he's a Trump supporter?


Tony three sticks! That’s his street name.

I hope he truly gets help for his obvious anger management issues. I don’t hold out hope that he won’t vote for trump again.



I’m more anxious than anyone for Trump and his crowd to be gone, but didn’t think that voting for him was a crime or aggravating favor, even in the Montgomery People’s Republic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The apology is bunk. No one just snaps and attacks, rages like this out of the blue for the first time ever. I'm sure he's had many raging encounters - on the trail, on the road, with people he knows... this is just the first time he got caught and is being held accountable.


C’mon, really. Is this really about his aggressive behavior or the fact that the others were wall-papering the trail with BLM flyers? There’s a large degree of political pandering when this case becomes a priority of the state AG.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Awaiting the barrage of twitter apologies to all the other men misidentified in the last couple days who’ve constantly been getting threats over this.

I’m sure it’ll be coming any minute now..... wait for it..... annnnny minute now......


Are you not on Twitter? There were massive numbers of apologies to the first doxxed guy. The information on the second was really confusing due to the utterly bizarre statement Of the organization he retired from, but once people figure out that guy 2 is not the suspect, I expect there will be.

I don’t condone the Twitter bloodhounds at all, just surprised that you seem to think there are no mea culpas.


New poster. Re: the bold, all the Twitter mea culpas in the world won't undo doxxing that's already happened, fear experienced by family members, damage control that wrongly accused people have had to do. I'm not referring solely to this one case but to the whole "we're detectives and will out you!" culture so accelerated by social media. By the time the real criminal is legitimately identified and law enforcement is handling it, it's too late. Apologies after the fact to wrongly identified people are cold comfort, especially if their names live on in Google searches as "suspects."


This is precisely why the Duke fake rape Students and Nick Sandman of the world deserve compensation from the media. Even if they are later proven to have been innocent- their names are forever tied to heinous allegations.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's no way this guy hasn't been ID'd by now. Someone is protecting him and they should know better at this point because it won't end well for to protectors either.


Not really. The problem is that there are several white males that fit the profile and the photo. The police have been investigating and have ruled out several suspects. You can see details of some of the individuals who were interviewed and cleared.

They have another strong suspect currently being investigated.

https://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/biker-who-attacked-students-may-have-been-identified-police-say

The problem is that even when there is a good suspect, the police still have to investigate the person and make sure they have a case against the person.


Um, there is a video.


DP. They need to make sure they have the right person. They need to try to gather other evidence about what happened before the video and also what happened at the end of the video and after.

If they can’t get other evidence tying the suspect to the bike (Strava, other pics of him with the bike, etc), it won’t be as much of a slam dunk case as you think.

In fact, the Twitter vigilantes who identified other bikers who looked like the perpetrator have handed the real person an opportunity to create reasonable doubt.


I’m not a criminal lawyer but I’m pretty sure from watching the Brady Bunch that you can’t use random people’s twitter posts as a defense.


And I am sure from law school and a lengthy legal career that the identification of other suspects is helpful to the defense. If raised by the defense, the prosecutors will have to explain why those people were excluded. Depending on how airtight the case is that it couldn’t have been that person, you may have enough to create reasonable doubt. You only need one juror to not buy into the case.


Again, I’m not a criminal lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that any of the Twitter suspects will be easily ruled out because they won’t have the distinctive body type of the attacker. (Sorry, alleged attacker.)


They were similar enough to have people convinced they were the right person. They were close enough that the cops interviewed them. Exactly how much they will help will depend on a number of things, but it is helpful for the defense to have something to point to, especially in a case where there is video - so it will focus less on what happened and more on is it the right person.


Read carefully. The people on Twitter only saw the 2 alleged suspects faces. They did not see their bodies. The cyclist had a very distinctive body. Why do you think the first guy was cleared so quickly. I can’t continue discussing this because it’s making me more dumb.


No, dumb was you repeatedly pointing out that you were not a lawyer and then repeatedly commenting on how things would play out in a criminal trial.


Hmm, now what have you got to say? Where is his criminal defense lawyer arguing about all of the other suspects?


I would say he made a very poor strategic decision to admit guilt right away. This is not a case where an apology is going to make it go away. If he had let the process play out more, which doesn’t necessarily mean take it to trial (very little actually goes to trial), he probably would have fairer better.


They removed evidence from his home, likely the bike, the clothing he was wearing, his phone which he used to film the kids allegedly, GPS, and the helmet. The other guys were interviewed, don't have those things, likely have proof about where they were at the time of the assault (likely on their phones too), and actually don't look much like him anyway.


Even if he wouldn’t have been able to sow some doubt (which doesn’t require a lot) by pointing to other suspects, he gains very little by admitting guilt immediately, unless there is already a deal in place.


I wondered if there already was. That would be very wise if the deal was reasonable.

Cooperate, apologize. Police look good for catching him. News cycle moves on. Justice is served without making him a political scapegoat.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am dying to know more about him


Why? He’s an angry little man with a bike who is anti BLM. Couldn’t be a less interesting creature on this planet.


Agreed.

I’ll bet he’s a Fox viewer; that’s the one detail I’d like to see given.


Yes this has been established. I posted a photo of a tweet from his neighbor that indicated he is fox viewer. This tweet came out a couple of days ago by a twitter user who claimed the others accused were not the guilty ones and that he knows his neighbor did it and he was being questioned. He did not share Brennan's name, but he did indicate he watches Fox News. Since then, he has made his twitter private. The photo I posted (which redacted the names) was deleted.


One name wasn't redacted, which is why I removed the post.


OK Jeff, I removed ALL names on the tweet...hopefully you will allow this one.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There's no way this guy hasn't been ID'd by now. Someone is protecting him and they should know better at this point because it won't end well for to protectors either.


Not really. The problem is that there are several white males that fit the profile and the photo. The police have been investigating and have ruled out several suspects. You can see details of some of the individuals who were interviewed and cleared.

They have another strong suspect currently being investigated.

https://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/biker-who-attacked-students-may-have-been-identified-police-say

The problem is that even when there is a good suspect, the police still have to investigate the person and make sure they have a case against the person.


Um, there is a video.


DP. They need to make sure they have the right person. They need to try to gather other evidence about what happened before the video and also what happened at the end of the video and after.

If they can’t get other evidence tying the suspect to the bike (Strava, other pics of him with the bike, etc), it won’t be as much of a slam dunk case as you think.

In fact, the Twitter vigilantes who identified other bikers who looked like the perpetrator have handed the real person an opportunity to create reasonable doubt.


I’m not a criminal lawyer but I’m pretty sure from watching the Brady Bunch that you can’t use random people’s twitter posts as a defense.


And I am sure from law school and a lengthy legal career that the identification of other suspects is helpful to the defense. If raised by the defense, the prosecutors will have to explain why those people were excluded. Depending on how airtight the case is that it couldn’t have been that person, you may have enough to create reasonable doubt. You only need one juror to not buy into the case.


Again, I’m not a criminal lawyer, but I’m pretty sure that any of the Twitter suspects will be easily ruled out because they won’t have the distinctive body type of the attacker. (Sorry, alleged attacker.)


They were similar enough to have people convinced they were the right person. They were close enough that the cops interviewed them. Exactly how much they will help will depend on a number of things, but it is helpful for the defense to have something to point to, especially in a case where there is video - so it will focus less on what happened and more on is it the right person.


Read carefully. The people on Twitter only saw the 2 alleged suspects faces. They did not see their bodies. The cyclist had a very distinctive body. Why do you think the first guy was cleared so quickly. I can’t continue discussing this because it’s making me more dumb.


No, dumb was you repeatedly pointing out that you were not a lawyer and then repeatedly commenting on how things would play out in a criminal trial.


Hmm, now what have you got to say? Where is his criminal defense lawyer arguing about all of the other suspects?


I would say he made a very poor strategic decision to admit guilt right away. This is not a case where an apology is going to make it go away. If he had let the process play out more, which doesn’t necessarily mean take it to trial (very little actually goes to trial), he probably would have fairer better.


Hows it going to be worse? He should get some kind of diversion program. He’s been named and shamed and apologized. What more could be given to him?

Maybe 200 hours of community service at an inner city youth center would do him some good!
Anonymous
When I read all those posts from middle age men raging about their wives not having sex with them, I imagine them being like this guy.
post reply Forum Index » Off-Topic
Message Quick Reply
Go to: