King Abdullah Academy Closing: FCPS Buy for HS?

Anonymous
Uhh, Saudi money is not taxpayer dollars. The existence of KAA has brought economic opportunities and much more to your county. You are missing the bigger picture here. Let alone if everyone here is a parent, now 1100 displaced kids.

There are numerous studies on this topic, which I am familiar with in my field of work. Private schools, and I suppose applicable to KAA, appear to have done many things that benefit:

1. from basic research i see on kaa it has high performing students as well as competitive team sports (i think they won a few of their league championships this year) which creates necessary competition in sports and after school activities (i see in my kids model un competitions kaa is often represented too and they often win). Private schools often serve as innovation hubs, introducing new curricula, technologies, or teaching models. Their presence creates a higher education standard in the area, indirectly encouraging local public schools to innovate or improve to stay competitive. Frankly, I am all for new and innovative ideas, and I think FCPS can benefit from that. On top of that a vibrant international community.

2. Economic stimuls: Families often spend money in the county when they drop off or pick up their children: on gas, restaurants, coffee shops, retail, or extracurricular activities or tutors near the school. This directly supports small businesses and local employment. In addition, private schools tend to become civically engaged and in philanthropy, which benefits the county in many ways. If, in the instance that KAA brings out-of-county families, they bring spending dollars. There are actual case studies on this, where, in multiple U.S. counties, the closure of a single private school led to the loss of hundreds of thousands of dollars in annual local commerce.  Think about the taxes the Saudis were paying that benefited your country.

3. Employment: Private schools are employers. Based on initial research, KAA employed several hundred employees. I imagine many of them will not be unemployed.

4. Private schools drive future real estate demand. Families may relocate to the county to be closer to the school, which raises property values and local tax bases. According to a previous post, many new families have moved to Fairfax County, even from other states.

5. High-performing or prestigious private schools can elevate the perceived status of a county. This can attract investment, development, and higher-income families, including those without school-age children.  I can gather that KAA would have brought families and new businesses to Fairfax County and can continue to. High-quality private schools attract professionals and individuals with high incomes.  In addition, if KAA attracted students from a wide radius, it probably brought different cultural, professional, and social perspectives to the area. This can enrich the local community fabric and foster regional connections.

6. What sounds like the alumni of Kaa were trying to do, if they could save the property, was to turn it also into a community-wide benefit too. Traditionally, private schools often host sports events, concerts, lectures, and other activities, drawing visitors into the community. This boosts the hospitality, transportation, and tourism sectors. I imagine this was not allowed before because it was a Saudi property with needs for high security.

7. FCPS will relocate to the new campus, but this will incur new operational costs.  In addition, public schools can't replicate the flexibility or programs that attracted families to the private school in the first place.  It could increase the taxpayer burden. 

Mark my words, the devastation from this will be felt economically and in other ways as well. Kaa was an advantage to the area by a wide margin. Professionally I hope the deal doesnt go through. And personallly after reading many of your heartless comments about not caring for the broken school community I have my feelings even stronger.

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Anonymous wrote:Ya'all should be concerned over the lack of transparency over this sale. Guaranteed it was an inside job for a long time coming and you should be holding your fcps people responsible because there were many bids even higher than fcps that were denied and turned down with legitimate funds in place. this was absolutely not a sale that happened by luck in the past few weeks. and if that is the inside dealing i would be concerned about the transparency of fcps to begin with.


Well I'm just happy that FCPS was able to right the wrong they did in selling both this property years ago and in selling the land in the Fairfax/ Fair Lakes area. It was their land to begin with. Now we can stop worrying about aquiring the last high school property needed in Fairfax for some time.

Exactly. The shady dealings were whatever transpired for KAA to get this land in the first place when it had already been earmarked for the future western HS. It was a gut punch when it was taken away with no input from the community. I don't care how the county got it back, I'm just glad they did.
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If you want to take the position that we’re cash-strapped and the only sensible approach is to change boundaries to avail of capacity wherever located, then fine, but in that case we should also be looking at ways to move kids in western Fairfax into Herndon and not acquiring the KAA, even at what may seem like a bargain price.


Herndon High is not near the area of KAA. The only school that would likely be close to Herndon High would be Coates. I don't see the School Board sending Coates to Herndon.

Get rid of IB at South Lakes. Problem solved.


KAA is about 6.5 miles from HHS, which is less than a lot of kids travel now to Oakton and Langley.

They may have had reservations about sending Coates to Herndon but Thru proposed to pull low-income kids out of Fort Hunt and send them to Hybla Valley and to move kids at a Title I school from McLean to Falls Church, so who knows. It’s moot if Coates ends up at the new school.

People have been suggesting that FCPS eliminate IB at various schools for years and the only thing that’s ever happened is that they’ve added some AP courses at Lewis. I understand the suggestion that it would reduce pupil placements out of Herndon, but good luck convincing them to eliminate it at South Lakes.


Just because Langley parents want to keep their long commute does not mean everyone is willing to do that.
Forestville is 4 miles from Herndon.
Anonymous
The people from KAA should go whine to their facebook friends. No one cares and frankly, your arguments are nonsensical.

Anonymous
We live nearby. KAA does nothing for the surrounding community. Their teens don't volunteer at our rec league, I never see them out doing food drives or anything. They charge fees to use their fields.
Anonymous
I think the KAA people have been complaining just to each other and don't realize how ridiculous their complaints are to non-KAA people.
Anonymous
The KAA folks can go complain in the private school forum. The school closed and the building was sold. This is done. I knew no one who attended that school. The Teachers and Admin can apply to work at FCPS. The parents can raise money to build a new school someplace else. They can complain to the Saudi’s about no longer funding it.



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Anonymous wrote:I think the KAA people have been complaining just to each other and don't realize how ridiculous their complaints are to non-KAA people.


It is almost like they expect FCPS to run the school as an Islamic school. I have no idea what they want or why the one person keeps trying to promote the KAA agenda here.

If FCPS did not buy the building, someone else would. The other interested parties would tear it down and build something else. It is not FCPS’s fault that the Saudi government decided to no longer subsidize the school and it shut down. I understand being sad that it closed but the posts here are clueless.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The KAA folks can go complain in the private school forum. The school closed and the building was sold. This is done. I knew no one who attended that school. The Teachers and Admin can apply to work at FCPS. The parents can raise money to build a new school someplace else. They can complain to the Saudi’s about no longer funding it.

The funniest thing is most of you writing here are clueless of how resourceful the KAA community actually is! You think Saudi money ran the school? In actuality, the non Saudi KAA community actively held this school up. They were the real resources way more than $150 million! Do you know this community has already come together to create another school? In a matter of months! Staff members have been hired and that new school is ready to start this fall! You guys are arguing about the county being able to start WH in a few years?! Imagine creating a school in a few months… can only money buy that type of resourcefulness?

Anonymous
They already have another school up?! How?! Well that’s very impressive if true!
Anonymous
https://falconacademy.org/

New school in Loudoun.
Anonymous
No one wants anyone to run anything - but it would be nice to have the option of renting the facility for the current body of students is what I’m saying.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No one wants anyone to run anything - but it would be nice to have the option of renting the facility for the current body of students is what I’m saying.


Well, it looks like the staff has moved on. I'm guessing the students mostly have, as well.
Anonymous
Reading all the comments. i think a new HS is a great idea. but maybe we can all also be sympathetic to the school closing instead of aggressively telling them to shut up or take it up with the saudis.
Anonymous
actually this isn't true. i work in fairfax. many of them won fairfax county peace award for many years in a row. their high schoolers are an impressive lot. i believe one of them even started a local red cross chapter and is known as the youngest red cross chapter head ever. and creates blood drives. so this is not true.


Anonymous wrote:We live nearby. KAA does nothing for the surrounding community. Their teens don't volunteer at our rec league, I never see them out doing food drives or anything. They charge fees to use their fields.
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